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Is Persona 2 worth it?

I'm not usually a big fan of JRPG games, but when I like them, I love them. After beating Final Fantasy XV (loved it) I've been in the mood for a good JRPG story game, so I bought Final Fantasy VI on the Vita since so many people praise it.

So maybe im just not far enought, but the story has yet to draw me in. Im about 10 hours in, so ill keep playing but Im already looking to the next game I want to play.

My decision boils down to Persona 2 or Final Fantasy 9.

Just as a note, i dont care about the gameplay so much. Just want a good story.
 
If you're interested in a good story, the Persona 2 duology definitely has that. It's probably the weakest game gameplay wise, however.

For many of us, Persona 2: Eternal Punishment was the game that got us into Megami Tensei as a whole.
 
If you're interested in a good story, the Persona 2 duology definitely has that. It's probably the weakest game gameplay wise, however.

For many of us, Persona 2: Eternal Punishment was the game that got us into Megami Tensei as a whole.

How does the story compare to P3 and P4? I should not i didnt care that much for P3 but loved P4's story.
 
The story is really good, but the gameplay is a chore and borderline shit. If I could advise my former self before having played the game, I'd tell myself to just watch a YouTube playthrough of it (which is a strong statement coming from me because I always refrain from watching playthroughs of games I haven't played myself).
 
How does the story compare to P3 and P4? I should not i didnt care that much for P3 but loved P4's story.

Shares a lot of similar beats to both Persona 3 and Persona 4, but also faster paced and a little bit different due to a different writer. There's no social links or day advancement system like in P3 or P4, rather it's like a traditional RPG. So the plot moves quicker.

The first half, Innocent Sin, is pretty familiar territory as far as characters go.The second half, Eternal Punishment, features an adult cast and is pretty different from the other installments. But Eternal Punishment has some of my favorite characters in the entire franchise.

The story is really good, but the gameplay is a chore and borderline shit. If I could advise my former self before having played the game, I'd tell myself to just watch a YouTube playthrough of it.

It is definitely the weakest of the franchise. The tarot card system makes earning new Personas a chore, and the reduced difficulty in Innocent Sin PSP isn't great.
 
The story is really good, but the gameplay is a chore and borderline shit. If I could advise my former self before having played the game, I'd tell myself to just watch a YouTube playthrough of it.

Yeah, was generally going to say this. Especially after 3 and 4, the gameplay is drastically different and not that enjoyable to me personally.

Story is good. One of the better of JRPGs I've played. Depends on how much you want to spend on it though if you're not in love with the genre because gameplay can be a barrier to enjoying the story imo- if you can get it for $10 I'd say try it.

Personally can't compare it to FF9 though.
 
I honestly liked Persona 2's cast and story significantly more than both P3 and P4's. More depth and a more interesting premise. I liked the gameplay too, but apparently I was one of the few. I even played it after 3 and 4.

Persona 1 is the one that I can't get through.
 
Every time I try I end up giving up on Persona 2. I'd love to get through it but I never make more than a few hours. Wish they'd do an updated version with both parts or something
 
Depending on your reasons for not liking P3, Innocent Sin might not be up your alley either. Persona 4 is pretty much alone in how cheery its vibe is and how friendly all the party members are with each other (especially by the end); you will not get that in Innocent Sin.

Can't comment on Eternal Punishment because I'm still holding out hope for the PSP fan translation (and also the PS1 version kind of scares me a little, Innocent Sin PSP already felt really sluggish compared even to Persona 1 PSP).
 
It has an interesting story, setting, and characters but they are buried under some gameplay that hasn't aged the best. There are two Persona 2 games that are part of a duology. I enjoyed the first game more than I thought I would but burnt out trying to finish the second one. Compared to the newer games, there is more emphasis on dungeon crawling than story. If you don't mind that then maybe try them out.
 
Buy Suikoden II. As much as I love Kazuma Kaneko's art style, I never really could get into P2 (honestly I've never gotten very far in ANY Persona game, despite owning them all). Nocturne is the truth though.
 
How does the story compare to P3 and P4? I should not i didnt care that much for P3 but loved P4's story.

It has a more engaging plot than either game (although it takes about 15 hours until the point where it really gets great in my opinion). Characters are a your mileage may vary thing, but I'd take the P2 cast over 3's, but I'd put it below 4. Maya is one of my favorite Persona characters of all though.
 
P2 are great games that need a bit of patience with some old school mechanics (and difficulty).
But yeah, P2:EP on the PSX was the first SMT gave I've ever played and I've been in love ever since.
 
OP, have you considered a strategy RPG like Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions?

That's got a great story AND great gameplay.

FFIX is really good, though. VII is my favorite.

Persona 3 and 4 are probably better options over 2 because of how archaic it is. That said, I think P3 is way better on PS2 due to the difference in presentation.

You might really like Chrono Cross... just a damn fun game with a beautiful soundtrack.
 
OP, have you considered a strategy RPG like Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions?

That's got a great story AND great gameplay.

FFIX is really good, though. VII is my favorite.

I have considered it, but ive had bad luck with FF. I loved FFXV, but i disliked 10, 13, 14, and now 6 just seems average to me so far. THough it may get better, idk
 
I honestly liked Persona 2's cast and story significantly more than both P3 and P4's. More depth and a more interesting premise. I liked the gameplay too, but apparently I was one of the few. I even played it after 3 and 4.

Persona 1 is the one that I can't get through.

I think what helped me through P1P was figuring out relatively early on what skills I should be leaning on a lot, and then locking in the same basic strategies and fast forwarding through every battle. I feel like Maki learning Megidolaon basically breaks the game up until the last dungeon.

Innocent Sin PSP can't be sped up nearly as much, the demon negotiation takes longer and has more branches (though the dialogue options are entertaining), and you have more party members to deal with. So overall it feels a lot clunkier to me. I know Eternal Punishment PSP adds a double-fast-forward option, which is a big reason why I want the fan translation.
 
I have considered it, but ive had bad luck with FF. I loved FFXV, but i disliked 10, 13, 14, and now 6 just seems average to me so far. THough it may get better, idk

You picked some shitty FFs, lol. Well, 6 is good but pretty old school.

I definitely think VII and IX are the best FFs. I also really like VIII but it's kind of the black sheep of the PS1 trilogy. I've been replaying FFX via the HD version and I honeslty don't think it's that great. Kind of the beginning of the end of the franchise, for me.

FF Tactics plays absolutely nothing like any mainline Final Fantasy. It's pretty much a Tactics Ogre game with chocobos.
 
You picked some shitty FFs, lol. Well, 6 is good but pretty old school.

I definitely think VII and IX are the best FFs.

FF Tactics plays absolutely nothing like any mainline Final Fantasy.


I dont really mind the gameplay as long as the story is good to be honest. People always hype up 6 to being some masterpiece so i thought i would start there first.
 
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Totally worth it.
 
Sophia covered literally everything that needed to be said, though it can't be stressed enough just how good the story is. Especially P2:EP and it's mediocre localization still arguably has the strongest narrative in the series

But the gameplay is... horrendous. If you love Persona and can stomach bad gameplay, then go for it. If bad gameplay is a dealbreaker i'd steer clear and watch a LP or something.
 
I dont really mind the gameplay as long as the story is good to be honest. People always hype up 6 to being some masterpiece so i thought i would start there first.

You have to put the games in the context of their time. 6 was a masterpiece of its era. It pushed the genre forward.

I think you should play VII. Incredibly memorable in every way except the combat, which is perfectly serviceable, just not extraordinary.
 
They're my gold standard for good writing in RPGs and Atlus' best, but the gameplay is super slow and boring (not to mention stupidly easy in PSP Innocent Sin) so they're kind of a chore to play... Like for me it wasn't even boring gameplay, it was straight up bad and hadn't I bought the games without knowing I'd have probably just watched them on YT instead. They're worse than FFVI in that sense, that's for sure.

Also if you want to get the best out of them I'd recommend starting from P1. P2 has returning characters and themes, and well, without spoiling, some things have more impact that way.

P1 plays better IMO, by the way, but it's pretty ugly.

In terms of story: P2>>>>>P4>P1=P3, and I love P3 and 4.
 
Not to derail the thread, but every time I see SMT Soul Hackers on sale for $10 on the eShop I think about buying it. How does the gameplay fare these days?
 
Not to derail the thread, but every time I see SMT Soul Hackers on sale for $10 on the eShop I think about buying it. How does the gameplay fare these days?

Fairly well. It holds up a lot better then any of the PS1 era Persona games, actually. There's only a few minor issues owing to the fact that it's older and based off the classic SMT games rather then Nocturne. If you like other mainline SMT games, go for it.
 
Not to derail the thread, but every time I see SMT Soul Hackers on sale for $10 on the eShop I think about buying it. How does the gameplay fare these days?

Ummmm..

Gameplay is fine, but it's got old SMT syndrome where it's just too difficult even on the easiest difficulty

EDIT: Oops, I was thinking of Devil Summoner
 
I dunno man, youre just 10 hours in my favorite Final Fantasy game and top 3 game all time for me. Forget Persona and focus on FF VI :P
 
I'm rather surprised by the comments made about the gameplay. Yes, the PSP remake of Innocent Sin doesn't get particularly challenging until the late game outside of the boss battles but experimenting with the various spells and effects via fusions is a far more compelling combat core to build a game around rather than the largely tedious and repetitive Press Turn system of 3/4. While the writing is certainly the highlight, boasting some of the funniest writing and exchanges in all the Persona games (hearing the intentional censoring of Ulala swearing still brings a smile to my face), gameplay-wise Persona 2 collectively boasts the best dungeon design in the series, challenging and fun to explore without approaching the borders of frustration while the rumor system makes for a unique bit of worldbuilding as one learns about the various secrets and ways to change the world thanks to the denizens and demons of Japan.

They each have their flaws, Eternal Punishment's decision to make Maya a silent protagonist for the sake of "tradition" remains a travesty, the demon interactions in both have become only slightly less frustrating than they were in the first game, the translation of Eternal Punishment is a little rough and Innocent Sin's rumor system is more flawed than Eternal Punishment's more refined take but that doesn't make the gameplay any less enjoyable, the overall story each boasts any less well-written nor the characters any less unforgettable, to say nothing of the chemistry between them. It's honestly disappointing that Persona 3 served a sort of soft reboot which, while still in the same continuity as 1-EP, ignored a lot of the more interesting mythos (Philemon is there but they make no mention of the collective unconsciousness or his role as a guide for the player), mechanics (i.e. having the ability to change all of the party's Personas made sense thematically in the Persona 1-2 era since they're meant to be different aspects of each of the cast with certain persona resonating more strongly via the various classes and signature Persona and made for a more interesting combat system than the largely sterile one 3 & 4 use) and characters of the previous games (see any of the Persona 2 cast for examples), as it would have been nice to see the Persona 2 cast interact with the later two games or potentially join up for a battle or two. Persona 2: Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment come recommended as, in my eyes, the best of the Persona series, certainly the most well-written and thematically mature of the five (localized) releases.

Also: You fight Hitler (kind of). This game wins by default.

P.S. I haven't played Persona 5 so I don't know if any of the characters pop up in that game, though I certainly hope that they do.
 
Persona 2 is my favorite Persona, the fantastic approach to the occultism is so MegaTen and the characters are fantastic. Even two of my favorite Persona characters are from this game (could be three, but I like more the P1 Eriko...) so just for the narrative is amazing. Sadly it was the last Persona where the antagonists don't were mere "obstacles" without a kind of charm, and I'm not talking just about the main villain.

The gameplay is not so bad, I know I'm some biased and I have played many times Persona 2, but with just to know the fusion spell mechanics and learn Estoma is a bearable game.

I would love a "remake", just not with the P5 engine, though, I don't know how Atlus have the Devil Survivor map engine and they don't use it for this game. Improve a bit the gameplay battle + contact system would be nice, too.
 
In terms of story P2 is the best. Although the gameplay is a bit dated its still worth it for the story and characters. Maya is also an amazing female character.

In terms of story it goes

P2>P3>P1>P4

I never did like Persona 4 story much since it lacked any real consequences for the team members and it had some stupid copouts. Also never did like Yosuke and Teddie.
 
I never played persona 2 so can't really say anything about it, but persona 3 is great and I fell in love with persona 4 golden. Persona 4 golden is soo good, buying a vita just for P4G is totally worth it.

As final fantasy goes SE has been good porting everything to pc. You can find all FF games except 12/15 on steam. I don't know what wrong with Sony, PS4 should have gotten ps1 games by now.

FF9 is one of the best FF'S out there. If it was my choice I would just replay FF9 for like the 5th time. You should also check FFX, one of my favorite implementation of turn based combat.
 
I'm rather surprised by the comments made about the gameplay. Yes, the PSP remake of Innocent Sin doesn't get particularly challenging until the late game outside of the boss battles but experimenting with the various spells and effects via fusions is a far more compelling combat core to build a game around rather than the largely tedious and repetitive Press Turn system of 3/4. While the writing is certainly the highlight, boasting some of the funniest writing and exchanges in all the Persona games (hearing the intentional censoring of Ulala swearing still brings a smile to my face), gameplay-wise Persona 2 collectively boasts the best dungeon design in the series, challenging and fun to explore without approaching the borders of frustration while the rumor system makes for a unique bit of worldbuilding as one learns about the various secrets and ways to change the world thanks to the denizens and demons of Japan.

I hate to zero on you, but your justification for why the P2 battle system more compelling is wack, straight up.

For one, claiming that it's more experimental because of with fusion spells is complete nonsense. Fusion spells overshadow regular commands, so there's barely a reason to ever use them outside of healing. And they're insanely broken too. Pegasus Strike and the Lightning Tackle skill trivialize every single boss fight in the game (even in the original version) in IS, and while Fusion Spells are significantly nerfed in P2:EP, they're still the most optimal choice.

So it's the total the opposite! The P2 games are even more tedious, shallow and kore repetitive than the newer games, but with the added displeasure of taking forever to complete a battle AND a high encounter rate to go on top of it. But all of that (all of it) could be excused if P2 had a remotely decent progression system. But it doesn't. It doesn't matter in IS because it's laughably easy, but P2:EP forces you to grind. You want new Personas? Fuck you, you have to grind with the trial and error contact system for Persona cards that are then traded for actual Personas. And the requirements for a given Persona vary so you need to grind against all kinds of enemies.

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(The contacts themselves are amazing though)

And praising the dungeon design seems counterproductive when it's such a low bar, especially when the high rate of random encounters completely destroy it (making P1's arguably better).

Honestly, it's one thing to have passion for one of your favorite games, but be reasonable here. There's a reason why people bag on the gameplay of these games. I know I sound arrogant, but i'm being 1000% sincere. As actual RPGs, there's no 2 ways about it:

P2:IS and P2:EP are bad.
 
Totally worth it if you don't mind that they've aged a bit. Like others in this thread, EP was my first real exposure to MegaTen and I loved it at the time. (I can't believe I first played it like 15 years ago!)

IS has the better story and characters but is way too easy (even the original PS version)
EP has far better/more challenging gameplay and refinements though.
 
Soul Hackers aged drastically better than the PS1 Persona games. It's a little clunky but still very playable.

Yeah, I think I'm gonna grab it next time while I wait for a cheap price on SMT4 Apocalypse.

FF9 is amazing. Do that.

It's pretty great but I still suggest playing FFVII first just because IX is a bit more modern and playing in reverse might be less appealing.

Everyone should play VII at least once.
 
With Persona 2... they're both good games, but pretty light on story. What's there is good, but there's not enough of it that i'd recommend the P2 games if you're looking for something plot-heavy.
 
I just replayed Persona 1 and 2 (both). Persona 2:IS's remake is way too fucking easy. But for someone just playing for the story, that's probably a good thing. I still much prefer EP; it's harder, but not too hard and not cheap. I also prefer the older cast. In regards to the annoyance of Tarot Cards, you can go through IS with just the free story Personas just fine. For EP, you can't do that, but it was much easier to get the needed cards for new Persona compared to IS. Just break down and use a Contact guide.

If you're a new school JRPGer, you'd probably still want to pass as the gameplay is pretty old school. If you're not into FFVI of all games, you'll probably want to pass...
 
Persona 2 is a great game, but is hurt so much by its gameplay. The story and characters are easily in the top tier end of the spectrum when it comes to JRPG story.

If it came down to my own taste, I'd definitely recommend Final Fantasy 9 over Persona 2, but in your case I'd say go ahead with Persona 2. FF9 has a fantastic story and world building (hands down one of my favourite video games), but if you're already dissatisfied with FF6 you should probably go with P2. You also say you don't care that much about gameplay which will help you enjoy P2.
 
Is there any good way to cheat through the combat for this? I've tried playing several times and couldn't get through all the random encounters but I want to see the whole story out
 
Is there any good way to cheat through the combat for this? I've tried playing several times and couldn't get through all the random encounters but I want to see the whole story out

Sounds like a job for youtube, seriously.

You can add me as another who enjoyed the story and the characters, but despised the gameplay to the point I quit.
 
Fuck you, you have to grind with the trial and error contact system for Persona cards

It's only trial and error until you find their "pressure points"/Yellow and Green options. Then it becomes the same thing every time. Since there are only 4 core responses, that's not very "trial and error"-y, to me anyway.

What really throws the commusystem for demons is that sometimes they'll ask for gold and a "yes" response will piss them off. There's nothing you can do about that in that case since it seems the mood of the demon can change on a dime there compared to the 4 canned responses.

Is there any good way to cheat through the combat for this? I've tried playing several times and couldn't get through all the random encounters but I want to see the whole story out

If I remember right: There's lower encounter item(s) you can use to break the Random Encounters down, but for the most part: No. It's an old-school RPG, so you have to stomach the encounters.
 
Is there any good way to cheat through the combat for this? I've tried playing several times and couldn't get through all the random encounters but I want to see the whole story out

Get a Persona with the skill Estoma to reduce enemy encounters. Mashing one button will get you through the rest of the game.
 
It's only trial and error until you find their "pressure points"/Yellow and Green options. Then it becomes the same thing every time. Since there are only 4 core responses, that's not very "trial and error"-y, to me anyway.

What really throws the commusystem for demons is that sometimes they'll ask for gold and a "yes" response will piss them off. There's nothing you can do about that in that case since it seems the mood of the demon can change on a dime there compared to the 4 canned responses.

Remembering all of those canned responses based on the demon type is such a hassle though. But yeah, demons randomly asking you a question during a contact is ass, especially when they ask multiple questions in a row.
 
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