Supermanisdead
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you shouldnt have sex with a married woman. what if ur dick touches the baby?
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Is polygamy better than polyandry or the opposite?
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Supermanisdead
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op, i love ur tiny avatar
At this point I feel you're extrapolating certain behaviours seen in animals in mental gymnastics beyond comprehension, so I'm out
That's evopsych for ya.
Just adding what AuthenticM said. I'm not the one extrapolating, point the finger at him!
AuthenticM
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lol I never put forward the idea that men would kill the others' babies. And I would not, because men and lions have different instincts.
hey_monkey
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Can we talk about period sex for a hot minute?
1. Unless it's a heavier day, arousal reduces blood flow and may stop it altogether.
2. There are plenty of blocking solutions like cups and sponges women can employ to have sex, even oral sex, without any evidence of menstrual flow.
3. Men and women have plenty of different opinions about sex during periods. And that's as it should be. Let folks in the sexual relationship decide.
And speaking of #3 and this thread in general, what is the point? There is no One True Way to have multiple people in a relationship. It depends on the people involved and no amount of pseudo facts or studies or anecdotal evidence is going to change that, so... what are you trying to accomplish here?
1. Unless it's a heavier day, arousal reduces blood flow and may stop it altogether.
2. There are plenty of blocking solutions like cups and sponges women can employ to have sex, even oral sex, without any evidence of menstrual flow.
3. Men and women have plenty of different opinions about sex during periods. And that's as it should be. Let folks in the sexual relationship decide.
And speaking of #3 and this thread in general, what is the point? There is no One True Way to have multiple people in a relationship. It depends on the people involved and no amount of pseudo facts or studies or anecdotal evidence is going to change that, so... what are you trying to accomplish here?
Oh, you're right again. Sorry for throwing you under the bus, mate! Editing OP again
Ewww! Go do that somewhere else you kinky old man! Just because you have a period fetish doesn't make it normal
Honestly I think you are my favorite person here on gaf. You make me lol the most.
OT: I agree with Dennis
How bizarre.
If we're assuming some idealized society where polygyny or polyandry are socially acceptable, why would these minuses even exist?
That they exist would imply the system is not broadly acceptable or else people wouldn't opt into the system.
Your territorial males would never subject themselves to a polyandrous relationship and thus it would never be a significant "con", because every male in a polyandrous group would be there voluntarily. Males exhibiting typical monogamous jealousy would simply stick to monogamy. Males who aren't or are fluid enough to fool around with the other males in the polyandrous relationship would never feel the need to fight over the woman.
Ditto for the polygyny scenario. Why aren't the women working to support themselves? How could polygyny legislature go ahead without a society that gives paid maternal leave and treats pregnant workers like first class citizens?
There's no logic here whatsoever!
Anyway polygamy plus a societal standard of 3-5 on the Kinsey scale is the ideal solution.
If we're assuming some idealized society where polygyny or polyandry are socially acceptable, why would these minuses even exist?
That they exist would imply the system is not broadly acceptable or else people wouldn't opt into the system.
Your territorial males would never subject themselves to a polyandrous relationship and thus it would never be a significant "con", because every male in a polyandrous group would be there voluntarily. Males exhibiting typical monogamous jealousy would simply stick to monogamy. Males who aren't or are fluid enough to fool around with the other males in the polyandrous relationship would never feel the need to fight over the woman.
Ditto for the polygyny scenario. Why aren't the women working to support themselves? How could polygyny legislature go ahead without a society that gives paid maternal leave and treats pregnant workers like first class citizens?
There's no logic here whatsoever!
Anyway polygamy plus a societal standard of 3-5 on the Kinsey scale is the ideal solution.
hey_monkey
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Ewww! Go do that somewhere else you kinky old man! Just because you have a period fetish doesn't make it normal
Yeah, hi, I'm a woman.
Ah well in that case, thanks for the useful info. You're definitely not a kinky old man. (not that there is anything wrong with that, I was just playfully teasing hypothetical male you).
What am I trying to accomplish? Don't read this if you haven't already answered, so your answer is not tainted :
I'm genuinely curious about the answer to this. I've heard many times that polygyny is somehow more ok than polyandry, and I wanted this opinion challenged so here I am.
I am looking at the answer from both a relationship and a societal viewpoint.
hey_monkey
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But there is no universal standard opinion. There's no overall "better." There is only what works for people in any situation. Now if we want to measure what a limited subset thinks in an arbitrary way, sure, I guess, but I don't really see the point. But you do you.
Principate
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Yeah there's a reason such a ideal doesn't exist even within your scenario, because it's an ideal those cons will always exists, because humans aren't perfect and feelings change. There's still many societies, current societies where polygamy is socially acceptable and those problems are very real problems, as in people die problems
There are two kinds of sins.
One sin is to use statistically insignificant anecdotal data to generalize. IE: "my wife likes transformers, therefore women like transformers."
Another sin is to say that "everything depends on the individual situation" which basically shuts down many debates immediately because it completely prohibits generalization.
The latter is the sin you are committing.
Sure, some women may thrive as single moms, but statistics say that children of married couples do better.
Sure beauty is subjective, but most people think Angelina Jolie is hot.
This is the space I'm trying to occupy. Don't think of my affirmations as absolutes, but more as "51% of people like X".
So let's happily generalize, while keeping in mind we should judge each situation individually when needed.
What you're describing as "polygamy" is a master-slave relationship or an owner-possession relationship. The OP implies that the polygamy legislature (I assume in a Western society like the US) would parallel monogamous marriage in that all concerned parties are social equals.
Even if both systems fall under "polygamy" the contexts are totally different and are not comparable.
(Although going by the pros and cons the OP lists he's thinking of a more animalistic system like with lion prides.)
Did somevon say polygamy?
Hah, I just watched this film for the first time.
hey_monkey
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Let me be more specific, since apparently context wasn't enough: in a relationship, there is no universal. We can determine what NeoGAF might prefer, or at least parts of NeoGAF, but we can't really say which of these relationships is "better." It's not the same as whether or not someone like Angeline Jolie is hot to most people, or if Picasso is meaningful art. Relationships are a stickier wicket.
Totally, no universals. agree 100%. Now let's find out what parts of neogaf prefer! It's still interesting.
Nobody expects you to speak for anyone else. Use YOUR own definitions of "better". I'm totally cool with that, riff with me comrade!
This isn't a scientific paper or a Bill. It's Just another meaningless forum post. Have fun with it
From an economical perspective:
1) If you are a young male: polyandry
2) If you are a young female: polygyny
3) If you are an old rich male: polygyny
4) If you are an old rich female: polyandry
I'm not sure if polygamy is the next thing after gay marriage, but it has at least the advantage of religious support.
1) If you are a young male: polyandry
2) If you are a young female: polygyny
3) If you are an old rich male: polygyny
4) If you are an old rich female: polyandry
I'm not sure if polygamy is the next thing after gay marriage, but it has at least the advantage of religious support.
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