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Is Skate a dead franchise?

dc89 said:
Played the original Skate the other day in free skate mode on the community centre level.

So good just pulling off basic stuff, because it feels authentic.
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I agree, skate 1 was my favorite. The actual skating felt less gamey, even though 360s spin unrealistically fast. I guess I just prefer the animations of the tricks more, bluntslides looked like crap in the third one.

The second and third had better everything to me besides the actual skating, it feels a lot more real in the first, some probably prefer the later ones though.

One thing they could do is make lip tricks better, although I'm not sure making the game more core is the way to go sales wise.
 
It's dead,too fast sequels and they killed it,and it's actually amazing how they copied Acti mistakes with Tony Hawk series in less than two years,EA+good IP+sequels= complete disaster.
 
TheSeks said:
Er-Flick-it(TM) was pretty intuitive, dude? Right stick down-quickly up->Ollie. From there you have to do awkward L/R2's to modify the ollie into tricks. But frankly once you got used to the "right stick controls your legs/hands in a move" it was pretty easy.
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Afair It wasn't so much that I had problems with the controls (well at first I had massive problems with it) more with the "now do a inverted nollie crocodile super jump and land on the funkadelic slidaroo while grabbing the something'..and I was just like 'wtf you want me to do?'

Granted it was only later in the game but still drove me insane.

Yes, the technical limitations of the first game were very frustrating at times, made even worse by the framerate on the PS3, but for the most part the trick controls were great. There was a sense of accomplishment when you nailed a complex trick and could do it over and over.

The 2nd and 3rd entries improve the gameplay in several areas (like being able to get off your board and walk up stairs!) but for some reason the games just didn't feel as good as the first entry did for me.
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absolutely..I was so damn proud of myself when I finished all the spots and combos.
 
If so, I hope they bring it back in some form eventually. I love the franchise a ton, hope we get to see more of it. Wound up loving the heck out of 2 and 3, never played 1. Even so, they're my favorite skateboarding games of all time. Everything just feels so satisfying.
 
Skate 1 made me mad after skate2/3 came out because it came apparent that all the features of 2/3 were stripped out of it in order to make it an annual series.
 
I would love for them to bring back Skate next gen. As for someone who skateboards regularly, Skate was such a breath of fresh air for me and the genre. Even though I didn't enjoy 3 as much as I did with 1 and 2, it was still a good game.
 
Skate 3 was awful, got it day 1 and it made me :/


Skate 2 and Skate 1 were great and had a lot of fun with those two, though to be honest I still have the Tony hawk series as so much better and fun then the skate series.

I think it's dead for now but I've got a feeling it'll come back next gen D:


More big black please and big cat :p
 
I've only played Skate 3, and it'll probably be the last Skate game I play. I hated the trick controls. I find it difficult to consistently pull off a lot of the advanced tricks in the game.
 
Let it come to PC first ;_;
It would be sad it it really was dead. Seemed like a very interesting and innovative skating game (I talk about the first one).
 
jediyoshi said:
Oh dear, may want to steer clear from fighting and beat em up games as well.
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I'm fine with fighting games, but for some reason the controls in Skate didn't mesh well with me.

In any case, unless they add the option of button controls in a future installation, I'm steering clear of the franchise.
 
rvy said:
Judging by the responses, either the first game or the second one seems to be the way to go. Will check out eBay.
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Skip the first one. You can't get off your board so you end up having to skate around an entire block just to get your dude up a single stair.
 
Skate 2 was an amazing game, Skate 3 was a bit shit.

When they do a new one I hope it's next gen, and there's a refined emphasis on basic tricks; the game had a tendency to evolve into Tony Hawk's levels of bullshit at around the halfway point. Just increase the lines you have to do, rather than the ridiculous nature of the tricks as the game progresses. There should be an emphasis on consistency rather than lunacy.
 
Skate was brilliant. Then they Tony Hawk'd themselves and now it'd take some serious innovation for people to buy Skate 4.
 
EA quickly ran it into the ground. Funny because I remember them referencing how they didn't like how the Tony Hawk franchise became over saturated and stale.

Skate was great because it really was about trying to capture that feeling of skating. Anyone who skates or has skated, knows that amazing feeling when you are able to pull off that one trick after failing hundreds of times. That's what I thought was so great about Skate. You felt get landing a simple switch kick-flip off at set of stairs. Compared to Tony Hawk's grinding on eleven telephone poles in a combo.

They eventually started to worry more about community and user created content more. Instead of innovating upon the foundation of what made the first game so great.
 
keltickennedy said:
EA quickly ran it into the ground. Funny because I remember them referencing how they didn't like how the Tony Hawk franchise became over saturated and stale.

Skate was great because it really was about trying to capture that feeling of skating. Anyone who skates or has skated, knows that amazing feeling when you are able to pull off that one trick after failing hundreds of times. That's what I thought was so great about Skate. You felt get landing a simple switch kick-flip off at set of stairs. Compared to Tony Hawk's grinding on eleven telephone poles in a combo.

They eventually started to worry more about community and user created content more. Instead of innovating upon the foundation of what made the first game so great.
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Exactly.

And then as the game progressed, the challenge increased because they asked you to perform increasingly ridiculous tricks and stunts. There was a glass ceiling with the controls though, and the precision needed to perform these wasn't inline with the more basic tricks, thus the reward tapered off. It ended up being stick mashing.

I'd rather them evolve the formula to think of ways to innovate in the control department; how about having players hold certain trick poses in midair in order to land a trick, or something. Just someone to increase the skill gap beyond simply flicking.

In the end though they just innovated by offering crazy replay modes and shit that were fairly niche.
 
I'd say its time has passed....I wouldn't be interested in a skate 4 at all
 
Sounds like this is one of those rare franchises that could have milked the hell out of DLC releases every 6+ months or large expansions.

My brother still goes back and plays Skate 1 and 2 at times.

Shame EA went and ruined it a la Guitar Hero style.
 
rvy said:
You people need to make up your minds :P. "Buy both" isn't a nice option.
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get Skates 1 and 2, skip 3. You can probably find 1 and 2 really cheap used now. And play them in the correct order to appreciate them better, it would be hard to go from 2 to 1
 
one_kill said:
I'm fine with fighting games, but for some reason the controls in Skate didn't mesh well with me.

In any case, unless they add the option of button controls in a future installation, I'm steering clear of the franchise.
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It's the exact same concept, even worse for fighters in that combos typically require more intricate combinations of inputs with a smaller window on timing and attention to spacing relative to the level and your opponent. At most a move in skate will require two joystick swipes and a curve followed by a trigger.
 
Anyone remember that Snowboarding game "Stoked" that tried to copy the controls ? I kinda wish that had worked out better.
 
I still haven't been able to beat Rob and Big challenge 5 years to this day, fuck. It's probably the second game I ever bought because of a demo it was that good.
 
I looked it up and I guess they each released a year and four months apart (Sep 2007, Jan 2009, May 2010). Definitely a bit too fast. I really did enjoy the series. Not sure I'm dying for another one yet, but I'd love to see another one at some point. Having said that I believe it is a dead franchise now though.
 
Just go straight to Skate 2. The fact that even proponents of Skate 1 say that it's tough to go back after #2 should tell you all you need to know.
 
Yep. Know someone involved with the licensing, and they said the poor performance of Skate 3 killed some DLC plans and further games.
 
Skate 3 is much better than 2

- the city (I know its basically from Skate 1) is a lot better. Skate 2's city felt more like a bunch of loosely connected spots with almost nothing in between
- the off-board mechanics are a thousand times better


I think I still prefer Skate 1 the most. It might be nostalgia but it really felt like I could skate around the city and find little spots that I could practice doing some trick over and over on, and in the later games those spots disappeared
 
TerryWogan said:
I loved the first game and was semi-hyped about the second, but I quickly realised I'd had my fill mid-way through 2. The third game I didn't even bother with.
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Word for word my relationship with the Uncharted series. And probably a couple other series, but Uncharted sticks out the most to me of being like this.
 
I like Skate 2 the best.

The first is quite good though too. Even though you can't get off your board, you can place session markers that you can instantly go back to. Comes in handy if youre skating a set of stairs.

I'm not even sure why I didn't really care for Skate 3. It just seemed like the city was very boring to skate in. Hopefully there will be Skate 4 next gen.
 
I played the shit out of skate 1 and 2 but skipped 3 due to the shitty demo EA released. Would love a new skate game done properly.
 
Sometimes you just have to know when to stop. Skate 1 was amazing, and 2 was good but you could see some nonsensical design choices starting to creep in, by the 3rd game idiocy was at the forefront. I would say whoever was responsible for destroying such a good thing, they should be fired and black listed from the industry, but they did one better they got themselves closed down.
 
This was going to be my first thread ever, now I have nothing :(

I LOVE these games so damn much. I can still play any one of them for hours just free skating and looking for different lines that look cool for replays.

Fuck EA for killing this franchise. I still truly hope it comes back.

edit: been looking for an excuse to post this for years: skate 1 replays I put together
 
Meier said:
I hated the controls in this.. ugh, such a pain in the ass.
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Yeah, I loved playing the demos (and I think I borrowed Skate 2 from a friend which was really fun).

Recently redownloaded Skate 3's demo and I just find the controls clunky and bordering on rage-inducing. I'm constantly getting caught up on scenery and stuff too - bang bang into a wall :P

Although the latter could be due to me sucking.

I'd welcome a new Skate game though.
 
Loved the first game, brilliantly realistic.

Shame EA had to ruin it with the next two
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the first skate is still the best. even though the sequels introduced much needed mechanics like walking and stuff, the first skate just feels way better, i think it had a much better sound track but i might be wrong. Also, the art direction/graphics of the first skate absolutely destroys the sequels.

i feel they went a little too far on the whole bailing/thrashing thing and strayed from their original vision though i did appreciate the hardcore mode in skate 3.
 
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