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Is there a more boring enviroment than sewers?
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NeoIkaruGAF
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Yes. Open environments with the color palette of sewers.
Andrew Korenchkin
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They are definitely one of the most boring environments in gaming.
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Soodanim
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Underrated post. No area is inherently boring.
Relativ9
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True but they're usually very lacking in atmosphere and a "lived-in" belivebility, at least most sewers in games are relatively true to life and provide the opportunity for dense foggy atmospheres, echoy sound design, trickling water, ect ect.
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nkarafo
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Nah. Sewers are inherently boring. Not much a designer can do other than create interesting scenarios in that environment. But the environment itself will always be boring tunnels with the same bricks all over because that's how sewers are supposed to be.
I bet it's because they are easier to make. The very nice police station probably used all their creative (and monetary?) budget. It's too bad they did this with RE3 though, knowing how short the game is.
Oddspeak
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Honestly, its punctuated sewer section is why I prefer RE3make's pacing over RE2make's. Leaving the RPD in 2 and heading into the sewers is like stomping on the brakes, while leaving the city to head into the sewers in 3 is like a momentary yield.
That said, I also hate underwater levels and obligatory dark, dingy poison swamps in Souls-likes.
That said, I also hate underwater levels and obligatory dark, dingy poison swamps in Souls-likes.
odhin
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...And thats why the sewer level in RE3R was like 5 minutes long. See, they got you covered
(Too bad the rest of the levels weren't that much longer either but ah, thats beside the point)
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Soleil rouge
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I enjoyed the sewer level in Jet Grind Radio, and enjoyed exploring the sewers in Vivec (Morrowind). Although in Oblivion, I couldn't wait to gtfo and explore the wilderness.
MiyazakiHatesKojima
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I love any environment that's well designed and intriguing looking.
Plus, why wouldn't I like sewer levels when they can give me a sense of escape more than levels on the surface of the world?
Plus, why wouldn't I like sewer levels when they can give me a sense of escape more than levels on the surface of the world?
nkarafo
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The thing about vents is that they are just a small part of the environment while sewers is the environment.
Plus, i don't think you get through vents for more than a couple of minutes at worst.
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Dr.brain64
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I like the Oblivion sewers
Neir Automata wastes way too much time in the awful poorly designed desert, almost made me want to quit it, although the entire game is plain fugly.
StreetsofBeige
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Fallout 3 subway stations. Worst ever.
Burythelight
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Silent hill sewers are probably the best ones in gaming. Such a creepy environment.
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JeremyEtcetera
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No, the person you quoted is right. Here are examples of better looking video game sewers:
I'm sorry if the games you've been playing lately have the same gray brick walls with nothing special about them.
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
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If you want game designers roasted for lazily making their job easier by relying on repetitive sewer levels, no one has ever done it better than Old Man Murray's now legendary RUNE review:
https://www.oldmanmurray.com/longreviews/46.html
Page 3 is when it really starts digging into sewer levels, but you should really read the whole thing
https://www.oldmanmurray.com/longreviews/46.html
Page 3 is when it really starts digging into sewer levels, but you should really read the whole thing
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nkarafo
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Mario, Metroid and Crash examples aren't really supposed to be sewers, they are kinda themed that way. These are mostly just underground levels.No, the person you quoted is right. Here are examples of better looking video game sewers:
I'm sorry if the games you've been playing lately have the same gray brick walls with nothing special about them.
The tmnt sewer level is probably the worst one in the game. Not much to see at all, that's maybe why it's a fast autoscroller one.
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xrnzaaas
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With sewers it's hard to come up with an interesting layout other than long tunnels / labyrinths, but the sewer levels can still be fun. In stealth games they can be good for playing with enemies, in action/horror games they can include some intense fights with limited space for movement.
