Yup, I like having batteries in my controllers.
Especially here in the new controller, where the battery holder does not seem to impact the overall form factor much.
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Is there any reason Xbox still insists on batteries in the controllers?
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Yup, I like having batteries in my controllers.
Especially here in the new controller, where the battery holder does not seem to impact the overall form factor much.
diffusionx
Gold Member
I really like the batteries. I always have a fresh set of eneloops on hand, just swap it out when the current ones die.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
Because it's the superior approach. I hate being tethered while playing and draping cords across the living room floor so I have multiple packs ready to swap into my controllers as needed. I wish Sony had the same approach, TBH.
SolsticeZero
Banned
Rechargable AA batteries can lose their charge, too, after a while you know. I'd rather have a controller that I just set on a charging dock when I'm done with it, and it just stays charged all the time. And, like I said, you can replace internal batteries. They're dirt cheap and it's damn easy.
HYDE
Member
How else are they going to get you to see the value of their system when they can expect you to need a rechargeable battery kit, a wifi dongle, you name it...PS3 was incredibly cheap once people understood it was all packed in for free. Xbox is like a money sink and don't even get me started on Live. PS3, PS4 and Wii U get it right. Japanese make such superior hardware. Microsoft proves to me over and over again that they should just stick to software.
Madrugador
Member
Is this really confirmed? Besides Wired I haven't read any other site comment this.
Great. So is replacing a battery, which doesn't require me to open up my controller. It should really be noted that this thread started under the pretense that external batteries are inferior. At worst, the difference here is marginal and is a matter of preference.
People make fun of Sony's hardware all the time. Hell Samsung is destroying their ass.
But that's just in general overall.
SolsticeZero
Banned
Agreed. It's more a matter of preference. I just prefer internal because it's A) Included (and doesn't cost me any more) and B) easier.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
So they can save on manufacturing costs, but still sell the controller for the same price as controllers that come with rechargeable batteries.
XOMTOR
Member
Gotta admit requiring AA's seems a bit archaic in 2013 but it would be my preference. Besides eneloops are just soo damn good; they'll hold their charge for years in storage whereas a Li-ion will be flat (which is actually detrimental to its lifespan).
Internal Li-ion is convenient if you use your device often and keep it charged but for an infrequent user such as myself, the DS3's internal battery is usually dead, or has one bar when I pick it up after a few months of inactivity.
Internal Li-ion is convenient if you use your device often and keep it charged but for an infrequent user such as myself, the DS3's internal battery is usually dead, or has one bar when I pick it up after a few months of inactivity.
Er, at best the controller will MSRP for the same amount with or without it, you need to provide it and enloops do not compare to lith-ion in terms of life. So even under these expectations it's still a net loss.
DJ_Lae
Member
I'm happy with this.
When my 360 controller's batteries die, I take the charged pair of AAs I have set aside, pop them in, and keep going at full charge. Dead ones go back in the charger.
When my Dual Shock 3's battery dies, I either have to play tethered (defeating the point of a wireless controller), stop playing and let it charge, or keep two controllers for a charge rotation.
When my 360 controller's batteries die, I take the charged pair of AAs I have set aside, pop them in, and keep going at full charge. Dead ones go back in the charger.
When my Dual Shock 3's battery dies, I either have to play tethered (defeating the point of a wireless controller), stop playing and let it charge, or keep two controllers for a charge rotation.
pants
Member
do you have AA batteries in your cellphone?
Do you play your cell phone's games for 4-10 hours at a time?
LOL, wow
With nice rechargeable batteries you NEVER have to worry about your controller dying, having to tether it, or having to dock it...EVER.
Accidentally forget to plug it in/dock it? No big deal, grab a charged set out of your charger and play.
YouEnjoyMySelf
Banned
Not charging your controller for months and expecting to pick it up and play is your own fault.
I was out of the console loop for years when I was PC only. When I visited my brother a few years ago and saw the Xbox controller took batteries I was astounded. So funny that people talk themselves into thinking this is acceptable in 2013.
Allowing non-proprietary AA batteries gives you the best of both worlds. If you're a fan of rechargeable packs you can go that way or if you have a great source of cheap AA single-use batteries (my preference; Thanks IKEA!) then you're sorted that way as well.
My only hope is that a) the low battery flashing on the guide button doesn't occur a bajillion hours in advance of when they actually run out or b) you can turn off the low battery flashing on the controller completely.
The flashing became so annoying (especially in a dark room) that I'd end up switching batteries out long before I knew they'd die on me.
My only hope is that a) the low battery flashing on the guide button doesn't occur a bajillion hours in advance of when they actually run out or b) you can turn off the low battery flashing on the controller completely.
The flashing became so annoying (especially in a dark room) that I'd end up switching batteries out long before I knew they'd die on me.
pr0cs
Member
this.
even worse when you open the controller to try and replace a battery or fix a sticky button and the whole thing explodes in your hands.
undu
Member
Some people even prefer cables because they hate recharging stuff, the lunacy!
It looks like there's space for 4 AA batteries in there, so it will probably be heavier than the 360 pad.
The game authentication servers will most likely die before that happens.
To be honest I prefer batteries. I hate any form of wires. I thought that's why we did away with wired controllers? There's nothing worse than playing a PS3 or Wii U game and having your controller run out of batteries and then having to connect a cord to your controller.
Sure, it's much more expensive, but I have a pretty large stash of batteries so that's a moot point to me.
Sure, it's much more expensive, but I have a pretty large stash of batteries so that's a moot point to me.
NullPointer
Member
Batteries are better. I only use regular ole batteries and my controllers keep their charge for a damn long time. Its easy enough to swap in new ones when the old ones run out of juice.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
^This. Eneloops changed my opinion on having controller batteries. They're incredible. This bit of info was one of the few bright spots of MS' reveal yesterday.
I just re-read this thread and I'm really not clear on why people are upset about using AA batteries. Could someone explain if I'm missing something? All I've seen is "batteries are archaic/Gameboy/not 2013" and a "convenience" argument that seems like a wash to me (finding a cable, tethering until charged vs. swapping batteries).
UpperCaseN
Member
winner! I have probably 24 eneloops spread throughout every damn device in my household, with maybe 6 extra charged on hand at all times. When those batteries die, whenever the hell that is depending on the device, could be years for some of my TV remotes, I just merely switch them with charged eneloops and then charge the dead ones, repeat cycle forever.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
More options are nice, and this way they get to sell play and charge kits again.
Hopefully those things last longer. Mine stopped holding a charge completely after a year or two and the cable had to be held in a certain way for it to remain on. The cord itself randomly caught on fire during a play session at a friend's place and I was forced to buy a new one. Kind of a scary experience, almost burned my hand.
Hopefully those things last longer. Mine stopped holding a charge completely after a year or two and the cable had to be held in a certain way for it to remain on. The cord itself randomly caught on fire during a play session at a friend's place and I was forced to buy a new one. Kind of a scary experience, almost burned my hand.
Estocolmo
Member
This.
As long as they offer a play & charge kit I'll be fine
That actually barely happens to Lithium-ion batteries
DJ Lushious
Member
What crazy world do you live in where LiIon batteries barely die?
Replaceable batteries are the way to go, imo. I am extremely happy to see Microsoft going with batteries. As others have said, eneloops and the ability to quickly swap in/out rechargeable batteries is a feature that can't be beat.
IHaveCandy
Banned
I've never had a DS3 battery go bad on me. I had my longest lasting controller for 4 years before replacing it due to wear and tear. Still works fine today though.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
Don't mind this. Got my own rechargeable batteries to use. Options are good.
TheGreyHulk
Member
I think it's the better option overall. With a sealed, internal battery, you have to worry about consumers complaining about dead controllers and crap because all batteries go bad eventually.
With this method, you can have a group of batteries and swap at will. They should allow you to play via usb tether if possible, but i like being able to simply put in a different set a batteries. i just buy rechargeable batteries and i can use them on anything that needs AA
With this method, you can have a group of batteries and swap at will. They should allow you to play via usb tether if possible, but i like being able to simply put in a different set a batteries. i just buy rechargeable batteries and i can use them on anything that needs AA
dorkimoe
Member
This was the initial reaction to the PS3 controller. People were pissed (me included) But i never had one die on me
Now people are mad they are using batteries still? I cant keep up gaf!
ihearthawthats
Banned
ps3 is compatible with most usb controllers, even ones made before ps3 ever existed. can't say the same about xbox. if you absolutely need wireless, usb dongle is an acceptable alternative imo.
Obviously just my personal experience but I never had a cellphone battery die on me. Same goes for the PS3 controller and iPods.
XOMTOR
Member
Well no kidding, point is needing to keep the DS3 charged is something that needs to be considered and since I rarely touch the PS3, it's not. Now you charge a set of eneloops and they'll happily sit that way for years. I installed a set of them in a (rarely used) wireless keyboard in 2009 and they're still charged.
bumpkin
Member
My bigger issue with the PS3 controllers' physiology is that it has to be plugged in with a cable to charge it, and the cable that came with my PS3 for its controller is really damn short.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Well the lithium batteries in a DS3 are standard sony ones, you can replace it yourself easily. I did it once for a friend who had a malfunctioning battery that didn't charge properly, all you have to do is unplug it and plug in the new one and screw the controller back together takes like 3 minutes. Also you can always play with the controller wired. The only functionality you lose with a no battery wired controller is that you cant turn the PS3 on remotely, you actually have to walk up to it and turn it on manually like in the good old days.
DS3's work with any USB to USB mini cable, I bought an energizer one that's like 5 feet long for 4 dollars a while ago
