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Is there anything that didn't go downhill after the early 2000's?
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No, I guess Full House was pretty good.
Kids shows really appealed to me when I was a kid. But these days... kids shows really don't appeal to me (must be the quality).
Also, when I look back and select the very best TV/Film/Music from an entire decade, it doesn't seem to compare with what is on TV this evening between 7-8pm. So, there must be declining quality.
/proof
Also, when I look back and select the very best TV/Film/Music from an entire decade, it doesn't seem to compare with what is on TV this evening between 7-8pm. So, there must be declining quality.
/proof
ZombieSupaStar
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I think the dotcomburst + 9/11 and aftermath, just really dimmed the 00's after the 90s.
i mean we started the 00s with dotcoms bursting, then 9.11, then iraq, then the housing bubble.
the 00s just sorta sucked.
world of warcraft was a watercooler for awhile tho.
i mean we started the 00s with dotcoms bursting, then 9.11, then iraq, then the housing bubble.
the 00s just sorta sucked.
world of warcraft was a watercooler for awhile tho.
I'm really glad I got to experience the glory days of Nickelodeon. I feel sorry for kids these days that didn't get to experience prime Spongebob.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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I don't subscribe to that bullshit. Put a little effort into the stuff you claim to enjoy and you'll find some new, creative, an inventive people creating content that invalidates what you're pushing.
PhiloAmericana
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That's true. It was a hard decade, and it's going to be even harder for the West if the decline continues. I loved the '90s, but that's also because I grew up in that decade. Who can hate on Sega Channel?
Having said that, there's plenty of good to be found. Computer technology develops, medicine continues to develop, and technology continues to develop. There is absolutely a lot of innovation going on, and that's going to grow as globalization and information networks continue to tie people together.
Ninja Scooter
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with the growth of the internet, there is literally more exposure to games, tv, movies and music than ever before. You can find and access music or games that some random dude in his basement made 2 weeks ago. If you can't find anything you like, you are just hopelessly blinded by nostalgia. I'd much rather live now than 20 years ago where MTV, radio, the major networks and major game publishers decided what I got to listen to, play and watch.
PhiloAmericana
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And thankfully we nolonger have to deal with those AOL disks floating around. Every time I had mail I got a new AOL disk.
Edit: Also, X-Files was and is amazing. Poster above is very right.
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Banned
You're getting older and crankier and nostalgia obsession is kicking inn.
Grinchy
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cell phones
The phones themselves have gotten better, but as a result, people have gotten worse.
FireAndBlood
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Prices and the stock market?
But seriously, with the internet, quality for films, products, and services have gone up because of word-of-mouth. Thanks to amazon and yelp reviews, people are becoming smarter consumers.
But seriously, with the internet, quality for films, products, and services have gone up because of word-of-mouth. Thanks to amazon and yelp reviews, people are becoming smarter consumers.
Popular music has been shit since the conception of music. Don't try and cloud reality with nostalgia.
Harken Raiser
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Superhero movies got a hell of a lot better.
Publishing barriers are disappearing, so indie games (hell, indie anything) are getting more exposure, increasing in quality, and are more accessible.
Publishing barriers are disappearing, so indie games (hell, indie anything) are getting more exposure, increasing in quality, and are more accessible.
PhiloAmericana
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I also think we have greater access to music. Think of YouTube. Even if the audio quality is not great, think of the access you now have to so many different genres, so many different artists, and from music all over the world. Whether you want to listen to folk music from Albania or Hip Hop from New York. You have access to it all.
I personally think that's wonderful.
I personally think that's wonderful.
What the hell are you talking about son.
It's not nostalgia. "Popular music" as in new music you'd find on the radio and on MTV did not used to be all 100% crap like it is today. I still sometimes listen to music that would be playing on the radio or on MTV in the mid 90s. I seriously doubt 15 years from now I'll be saying the same about music on the radio today. The music industry landscape has changed dramatically over the past 15 years, and that is part of it.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Not only have things not gotten worse, but access to everything has gotten even better. You can go on youtube and watch whatever 90s show you want on demand instead of having to wait for it to come on or record it with a VHS. You can download almost any video game on demand and play it usually with improvements like online (and most of them you can do it legally!) or go on ebay and buy practically any video game in history.
Now is pretty much the best time to be alive ever as far as access to pop culture is concerned.
Now is pretty much the best time to be alive ever as far as access to pop culture is concerned.
umop_3pisdn
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Idk about that.
Someone probably said the exact same thing in the 90s.
There are a crap load of great shows, popular music isn't the only kind of music out there, and there are a lot of great movies.
butzopower
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What was so great about the late 90s / early 00s? I heard this shit a bunch, but get fucking over FFVII, jesus fucking christ.
Whenever I need to remind myself of crap music, I think of the the state of "alternative music" during that time.
Whenever I need to remind myself of crap music, I think of the the state of "alternative music" during that time.
"God's Beard!"
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I'm 57
ZombieSupaStar
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optimism, being 8 to 18 in the 90s was an awesome time, wrestling was hot, gaming was hot, pc gaming was hot, the economy was hot.
everything is terrible in 00s.
surrealist
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Late 90s and early 2000s had some of the worst music ever. Coming off an artistic movement, and going into a shit movement lead by Creed, Matchbox 20, Shinedown, Puff Daddy, Spears and all that other bullshit.
Well if you were a 3rd grader during this time and limited to bike rides, Seinfeld, and bad MTV, I could see this. But there was some really good stuff that just started kicking off. Things got off with a really good arc, that we really expected to just take off into the sky. Unfortunately the IT bubble was blown up, popped, then later the real estate bubble was predicted and popped. All this stuff happened in the financial section, but caused the rest of the world to slowly turn like warm ice cream.
Pinko Marx
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You must be a very miserable person.
butzopower
proud of his butz
I was there man, I know, I played pogs, I had some Ninja Turtles man. But if you look back, we were sold a bunch of cheap shit with a lot of screaming bad rad dudes who were numbskulls. You can apply that to Bop-It just as much as shit like Linkin Park.
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And how can I forget "You Don't Know Jack! Millenium Edition". That almost single-handedly describes everything that was wrong with that time period.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
You were a kid (I'm going to guess 8-11) in the early 2000s. You aren't now. Life sucks that way.
The good news is that by the time you're a little older, you get some perspective and are able to judge stuff a bit more holistically.
The good news is that by the time you're a little older, you get some perspective and are able to judge stuff a bit more holistically.
umop_3pisdn
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Of course, no one said that there is no good pop music now.
krameriffic
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Do people ever look at themselves when making statements like this and say "wow, I've turned into the same jaded asshole as my parents and grandparents before me, longing for the good ol' days out of my crippling fear of a changing world?"
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