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Is Warcraft 4 even possible at this point?

tbm24 said:
Alternate history by going back in time is it not? If nothing changes in Azeroth Prime then what was the point of those CoT dungeon/raids? Was the point not to PREVENT the world from changing?
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The Infinite Dragonflight can control time, like Cable and Beast after modifying Reed and Doom's Time Cube. Everyone else (like Garrosh and the Bronze Dragonflight) is making an alternate timeline every time they travel in time (like it's supposed to be in the 616 Marvel Universe.). An alternate timeline is invading our Azeroth through the Dark Portal. We're not going back in our time, we're going to an alternate dimension that is technically in the past.
 
Let's wait until the RTS team is actually finished working on their current projects (Starcraft 2: Legacy of the Void and Heroes of the Storm) before we suggest Warcraft 4. It's best not to fill their plate too greatly.
 
It certainly is possible but I see no point, in retrospect Blizzard dealt pretty poorly with how they handled story in the Warcraft universe with WoW and its expansions. Who is left alive, what hasn't happen? Maybe I'm just old and biter but this universe feels like a giant fanfic at this point.
 
There's a few storylines left open that could easily be used in a War4.

First there's N'Zoth. Old god, responsible for corrupting Deathwing, responsible for the evil plaguing the Emerald Dream, and allied with the Naga to kidnap the elemental lord of water, Neptulon (who's still missing).

Then there's Azshara. Former Highborne Night Elf queen, currently queen of the naga, seeking to take control of Azeroth's oceans.

In Cataclysm, the dragon aspects gave up their aspect-ness to kill Deathwing. Explore that a bit. They've breached it barely by introducing the Timewalkers, a group of mortals allied with the Bronze dragonflight responsible for protecting time. Hell you could probably turn the dragonflights into their own faction.
 
It's fiction. You can make anything up, set it in the distant past or future, teleport characters to a new world... whatever. If anything prevents Warcraft 4 from happening, it certainly won't be the story/lore.
 
I wish they would reboot immediately after WC3:FT and just ignore WoW lore completely.
Or maybe do a universe split?
WoW RAPED Warcraft lore :(
 
- Release two more expansions or whatever.

- World ending event. Azeroth gets sucked into the maelstrom and implodes or whatever.

- Some races get on spaceships and fly off to a new planet

- WoW updates cease to exist but the game continues on for years in some pre-destruction state

- Warcraft IV has the old races land on new planet. Conflict with new races

- WoW 2

Done.
 
I used to think it had to happen with WoW being based on WC3 lore and all, but now the expansions have just created their own lore and there doesn't seem to be any reason for WC4 to exist.

With Blizzard releasing both Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm, it seems like they are content to "extend" the Warcraft brand without an actual Warcraft 4 game ever coming out.

Maybe Blizzard just doesn't see the RTS genre as worth while.
 
Zincalloy said:
I wish they would reboot immediately after WC3:FT and just ignore WoW lore completely.
Or maybe do a universe split?
WoW RAPED Warcraft lore :(
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What was bad about WoW's story? It continued from WC3, what specifically went wrong and why would they have to go all the way back to the frozen throne?
 
On PS4 with Keyboard and Mouse Support Please :)

or at least with controller like support that rivals that of Everquest Online Adventures
 
Warcraft 4 is incredibly unlikely, but not for any reason you state. Warcraft3 was basically a huge retcon of the series lore anyways, they'd just do it again if they wanted. The reason it is unlikely is that the Warcraft universe is now, significantly, more known as an MMO franchise than as an RTS franchise.
 
MattPeters said:
They can always make up lore, or just throw Sargeras in. Thats one big bad that wont make it into WoW.
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Yet. I'm surprised he hasn't.


For the OP. I doubt it. They completely retconned a bunch of stuff and ruined some really great characters and story arcs. WOW is all we have to go by now and that is all that will remain.
 
Valnen said:
This isn't entirely true. There is the corpse of an old god in...I don't even remember the name, it was the night elf area after they leave the tree. And Yogg-Saron and C'thun are pretty dead too.

I'm assuming a certain amount need to be left alive, or they've abandoned that idea entirely.
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The one with the sword in it, laying around in Darkshore? That's a Forgotten One. We're talking about the same one, aren't we?

EIther way. I'd kill for a Warcraft 4 but it's probably never going to happen. There's no need to with WoW and all.
 
The only way I see it happening is if they treat WoW's handling of the lore as non-canon and pick up after WC3.

WoW pretty much pillaged most of the good potential antagonists from the universe.
 
W4 will come I think, its the perfect blend of heroes from Moba games and RTS elements from SC2. The Warcraft 3 formula is more relevant now then ever.
 
Liha said:
Arthas is dead
Illidan is nearly dead
Deathwing is dead
The WarCraft story is dead.
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Blackhand is dead.
Medivh is dead.
Lothar is dead.
Orgrim Doomhammer is dead.

There's no way Warcraft 3 is getting made.

Come on guys. You can always invent new villans and heroes.
 
If they do it then it should be a prequel in the timeline. I don't see how it's possible to coordinate both WoW and WC4 and keep the canon intact.
 
Easy. Just say WoW is non-canon/alternate universe and continue where WC3 left off. Now whether it would be a good game is another question.
 
A Black Falcon said:
WoW completely ruined the Warcraft story and continuity. Ditch the whole game from it!
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Arzehn said:
Easy. Just say WoW is non-canon/alternate universe and continue where WC3 left off. Now whether it would be a good game is another question.
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WoW is never going to be ditched because it's much bigger, much more important, much more relevant than every single Warcraft anything that came before it.

People need to deal with that and move on with their lives, or bow down to their new shitty lore overlords. Even erasing WoW from history wouldn't change the fact that the people responsible for the crap plot elements in the MMO are the ones who would be in charge of Warcraft 4.

Warcraft lore is dead. Grab your Christie Golden books and go cry in the corner.

I'll be there too.
 
you bet your ass they'll do another WC game. Most of the lore in WoW never existed before WoW... they've proven they can make up a buncha shit and have it be "okay" and fit in w/ the cannon.

In Blizz I trust... bring on WC4 pleeeeaaaaaaasseeeee. Starcraft 2 is dead to me at this point :-(
 
Kinyou said:
The best thing about WC3 were the custom maps online. Somehow they don't interest me as much in SC2
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I'd love to see a warcraft 3 "2.0" that had better texture quality and redone assets, but would still be compatible with all the warcraft 3 custom maps. A retooled UI and customizable hotkeys would be god send as well.
 
Comet said:
As someone who played over 5000 WC3 matches online... I really hope they do make a sequel. However, after what WoW has done to the Warcraft universe, I'm not sure if this is even a game/concept that Blizzard ever wants to go back to. Hell it took SC2 11-12 years to even release...
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What exactly did WoW do to the warcraft universe?
 
Megalosaro said:
It seems to me that the mythology of the franchise is all over the place at this point, thanks in part to World of Warcraft. Storyline, is there anywhere they can really take that universe now?

It seems like most of the storyline arcs have been finished. Many longstanding villains, like Sargeras are contained. Where can they take the story?
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"An ancient evil that has laid dormant for millions of years has arisen from the depths of the universe. The warriors of Azeroth must band together and stop this foe before it's too late." - Warcraft 4-6
 
It would be awesome if Blizzard if/when they do make Warcraft 4 just totally pretend WoW didn't exist and continued on from there. Say WoW or WC4 is an alternate dimension from the other, I don't care, just ignore what you did to the lore with WoW.
 
Kinyou said:
The best thing about WC3 were the custom maps online. Somehow they don't interest me as much in SC2
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I agree, same with Starcraft I for me. All I play in SC2 is the melee ladder stuff, which is fun but I really want something with a stupidly large amount of creative custom maps like Warcraft III plus the regular P2P hosting that made it more personal. All blizzard RTS's have good campaigns too.
 
Blizzard will just make new villains.
It won't be worked on until after their Titan project is done which isn't anytime soon.
Arthas and Illidan are my favorite villains. Too bad they killed them off. Gonna be hard to try and top those two.
 
Of course it's possible.
Done well? Highly doubtful.

I have very little faith in Blizzard after the dollar signs crossed their eyes with WoW
 
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