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[godisturbed]

This gives me a new found respect for Itagaki.

 

[jett]

I'm not all that surprised to find about Itagaki doing what he did, we already know he's an asshole , but the people saying "AWESOME!" , "Respect +1" and that kind of shit...wtf is wrong with you dumb****s?

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Without reading this thread, my only reaction to the news is that this will likely hurt Ninja Gaiden 2 in some form or fashion. The man, unless he completely has no soul, will struggle with this and that will absolutely cut into his creativity and capacity to focus. Bad news methinks for Gaiden fans.

 

[PleoMax]

Without reading this thread, my only reaction to the news is that this will likely hurt Ninja Gaiden 2 in some form or fashion. The man, unless he completely has no soul, will struggle with this and that will absolutely cut into his creativity and capacity to focus. Bad news methinks for Gaiden fans.

Maybe the angst will make the game even faster and furious. Maybe be a blessing who knows.

 

[Tellaerin]

I think it was pretty clear from your post that you think this is simply some sort of format war issue. But if you can't take it, I'll promise not to make fun of you or Captain Dreamboat in the future.

'Format war issue'? No, I don't think it has to do with formats (by which I'm assuming you mean console fanboy issues?). It has to do with people who, regardless of console preference, never cared for Itagaki in the past, have said as much in previous threads, and are now taking flying leaps onto the 'burn him at the stake' bandwagon.

As I mentioned before, I also think it's pretty pathetic that there are people who assume this is true and are praising Itagaki for it. If he's really been forcing himself on women, it's reprehensible, and the idea of people cheering him on about that is sickening. But the fact is, we don't know. It's just as possible that the woman's a gold digger going after a juicy target, hoping that she'll be able to get the same kind of reaction from a judge or jury that she's getting from some folks in this thread.

I just think that when you have people acting like they do idolize him for this, responding to my post - when all I'm arguing is that the man shouldn't be assumed to be guilty just because of the kinds of games he makes or because you don't like how he sounds in interviews - is pretty ****ed up. You ought to have quoted somebody who is acting like he's 'Captain Dreamboat', instead of implying that I was.

I'm almost certain that's what I acknowledged in the post you're replying to. And what others have also acknowledged since. But no, I guess it must just be those damn DoA haters. Those "usual suspects", as you put it.

No, the Itagaki haters are the 'usual suspects' I was referring to. And if you really meant to acknowledge that we shouldn't be assuming Itagaki was guilty based on his personality in interviews or the kinds of games he produces, that didn't come through in your posts. At all.

 

[Speevy]

I'm not all that surprised to find about Itagaki doing what he did, we already know he's an asshole , but the people saying "AWESOME!" , "Respect +1" and that kind of shit...wtf is wrong with you dumb****s?

Itagaki already has the reputation of a man who would say or do anything without worrying about the backlash. It's like learning that a rockstar is into drugs.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

so in my last couple years at GAF I've learned one major thing:

calling someone a 'fag' or something 'gay' is ban worthy instantly, with hordes of politically correct warriors pumping their fists...

yet when a woman accuses someone of sexual harassment (from married man, no less), there are actually more people that think it's "awesome" and "Respect +1" worthy?

Wow...

...oh wait, he has a "rockstar mentality". Nevermind, it's alright.

 

[Kittonwy]

Itagaki already has the reputation of a man who would say or do anything without worrying about the backlash. It's like learning that a rockstar is into drugs.

Not all rockstars are into extra-marital affairs, and adultery is not right.

 

[HomShaBom]

yet when a woman accuses someone of sexual harassment (from married man, no less), there are actually more people that think it's "awesome" and "Respect +1" worthy?

Wow...

...oh wait, he has a "rockstar mentality". Nevermind, it's alright.

Well come on..without fully hearing both sides of the story, it seems they both wanted it. She's just trying to get some money...

 

[TheJollyCorner]

Well come on..without fully hearing both sides of the story, it seems they both wanted it. She's just trying to get some money...

You don't know that.
Maybe one day your daughter or sister will be sexually harassed, try to tell someone about it, and then you'll get to hear the "wait for the other side of the story" or "she just wants money" comments.

 

[Speevy]

Not all rockstars are into extra-marital affairs, and adultery is not right.

I didn't say it was. Just explaining the reactions of this thread.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Well come on..without fully hearing both sides of the story, it seems they both wanted it. She's just trying to get some money...

What we know is he's being accused of sexual harrasment. Which for some people apparently earns cool points. I wonder how many O'Reilly earned from those people?

 

[Tellaerin]

You don't know that.
Maybe one day your daughter or sister will be sexually harassed, try to tell someone about it, and then you'll get to hear the "wait for the other side of the story" or "she just wants money" comments.

Or maybe he'll have false accusations of sexual misconduct levelled against him by some gold digger, and have to deal with people automatically assuming he's guilty just because he's a guy. That scenario's not exactly unknown, either.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

This is from Beyond3D - http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35386.

Basically Itagaki was sued for sexual harassment by a female ex-employee who did PR job for Tecmo. I heard a rumor about it before but thought it was a joke that arose from the nature of the DOA series. But the reality is sometimes stranger than games!

According to the article, it began 3 years ago when Itagaki and she got on a taxi after a karaoke party. It was after Itagaki's dialog with some corporate executive for a magazine article, so it's in working hours. In the taxi Itagaki said "you've married, right?" and kissed her without her consent then touched her body. She couldn't resist in fear of Itagaki, but when he tried to take her to a hotel she cried so he gave up. Of course Itagaki has a wife and a child.

After that Itagaki repeated harassment, sometimes he locked the reception room in the company and hugged her in that room. At the E3 in the last year, he visited her hotel room disguising as if it's related to his job, and insisted on having a sexual relationship with her.

In this year she became mentally ill and often absent from the office. Until July the company didn't listen to her but the new personnel manager started counseling for sexual harassment so she asked an advice. Then Tecmo investigated Itagaki but he denied though he admitted he did a kiss. Itagaki was demoted for an undisclosed reason, but he stayed there without a change in his work and the company gave no explanation about it. Tecmo told her that it couldn't be identified as sexual harassment, so she quit her job and sued Itagaki and Tecmo in September for 10 million yen. She's 31 now. Tecmo disagrees with what she believes and is ready to go to the court.

You can start calling him a pimp right about... now.

 

[jett]

Itagaki already has the reputation of a man who would say or do anything without worrying about the backlash. It's like learning that a rockstar is into drugs.

Defend Itagaki's actions some more, please. And defend the reactions of the xbots in this thread some more as well.

 

[bigmakstudios]

It doesnt really make you pimp in the literal sense, but It means youre super tough and no one wants to mess with your shit and you really dont care.

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Scenester

Oh.

 

[Dahbomb]

This is from Beyond3D - http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35386.

you can start calling him a pimp right about... now.

I knew it had to be a long running affair for this case to get off. This is Japan we are talking about here, if this was a one time thing it would've been laughed off like others have said in this thread.

 

[Speevy]

Defend Itagaki's actions some more, please. And defend the reactions of the xbots in this thread some more as well.

I'd rather just call you an idiot, since that's what this quoted post originally said. I'm not defending anything champ, just explaining the reaction.

As a matter of fact, I don't think anyone here is defending Itagaki. It's called having a sense of humor.

Like "Saddam getting what's coming to him." and "Bill Clinton did not have sexual relations with that woman."

Serious issues, not funny for those involved, pop culture humor value.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Someone needs to create a youtube video of Itagaki in that recent interview where he holds up his finger and makes the promise that he is making the game everyone wants him to make and dub in Bill Clinton's voice of him saying, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!' :lol

 

[Speevy]

Someone needs to create a youtube video of Itagaki in that recent interview where he holds up his finger and makes the promise that he is making the game everyone wants him to make and dub in Bill Clinton's voice of him saying, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!' :lol

Oh no jett hates you now!

 

[Dahbomb]

Someone needs to create a youtube video of Itagaki in that recent interview where he holds up his finger and makes the promise that he is making the game everyone wants him to make and dub in Bill Clinton's voice of him saying, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!' :lol

:lol :lol :lol

Now that would be humorous.

 

[jett]

I'd rather just call you an idiot, since that's what this quoted post originally said. I'm not defending anything champ, just explaining the reaction.

As a matter of fact, I don't think anyone here is defending Itagaki. It's called having a sense of humor.

Like "Saddam getting what's coming to him." and "Bill Clinton did not have sexual relations with that woman."

Serious issues, not funny for those involved, pop culture humor value.

...

You're right. I should've left my original post unedited.

 

[Speevy]

...

You're right. I should've left my original post unedited.

Yeah, because you're singling me out for my one post in this thread in which I'm simply analyzing the other 34874390273402347 responses which all say basically the same thing.

Kudos.

 

[PleoMax]

This is from Beyond3D - http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35386.


You can start calling him a pimp right about... now.

He stalked her? To the hoterl, in desguise?

Why don't i buy it? He admits he kissed her right away wich gives plausible doubt to him since 1st thing you do in this sort of situation when there are no witnesses is deny the whole thing. He didn't, he aknowledged what he did.

I don't buy it.

 

[Kangu]

Defend Itagaki's actions some more, please. And defend the reactions of the xbots in this thread some more as well.

Are you suprised? It's ****ing Speevy.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

He stalked her? To the hoterl, in desguise?

No. Apparently he disguised a trip to a hotel with her as something related to his job when really just wanted to ****.

 

[fortified_concept]

I'd rather just call you an idiot, since that's what this quoted post originally said. I'm not defending anything champ, just explaining the reaction.

As a matter of fact, I don't think anyone here is defending Itagaki. It's called having a sense of humor.

Like "Saddam getting what's coming to him." and "Bill Clinton did not have sexual relations with that woman."

Serious issues, not funny for those involved, pop culture humor value.

I don't find teh funny in "+1 respect", "she just wants Itagaki's money" and "Oh yes! Itagaki is da man!" kind of comments. Maybe my sense of humor is not as good as yours. Or just maybe the guys making these comments are assholes. You tell me.

 

[PleoMax]

No. Apparently he disguised a trip to a hotel with her as something related to his job when really just wanted to ****.

OOOHHH

shit i was kinda confused there :lol

Oh. Thats more plausible. And if he's guilty, **** it, who cares!? He didn't rape her....

I ain't saying she's a golddigger, but she ain't messing with no broke nigga

 

[hydragonwarrior]

What does the facial scarring come from anyway?

Acne. He must have had it bad when he was young.

Spoiler

though i can't help wondering if she's hot :/

This will be one of the few times I agree with what drohne says :lol

 

[bill0527]

Without reading this thread, my only reaction to the news is that this will likely hurt Ninja Gaiden 2 in some form or fashion. The man, unless he completely has no soul, will struggle with this and that will absolutely cut into his creativity and capacity to focus. Bad news methinks for Gaiden fans.

The best Art ever created has come about when people are experiencing a lot of personal angst and pain.

Happy and stable don't create good art. Some of the best music ever created has been from people who were just a complete mess.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

The best Art ever created has come about when people are experiencing a lot of personal angst and pain.

Happy and stable don't create good art. Some of the best music ever created has been from people who were just a complete mess.

True. But the opposite holds true as well. It really epends on what kind of person you are. But if the allegations are true, it just looks bad to me, in general.

 

[Speevy]

I don't find teh funny in "+1 respect", "she just wants Itagaki's money" and "Oh yes! Itagaki is da man!" kind of comments. Maybe my sense of humor is not as good as yours. Or just maybe the guys making these comments are assholes. You tell me.

Funny, people like Jon Stewart found plenty of humor in the Bill O' Reilly sexual harrassment episode and the recent Mark Foley scandal.

 

[Porridge]

really strange news. you don't read about this kind've stuff on game sites

 

[Porridge]

Funny, people like Jon Stewart found plenty of humor in the Bill O' Reilly sexual harrassment episode and the recent Mark Foley scandal.

Yeah, because O'Reilly and Foley denounce immorality and then wallow in it themselves.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Funny, people like Jon Stewart found plenty of humor in the Bill O' Reilly sexual harrassment episode and the recent Mark Foley scandal.

The humor they found in it revolved around making him look like a hypocrite. Not humor in praising him for potentially doing what he was accused of. There's not much humor in giving someone more respect for doing this.

 

[chase]

Hope he gets fired (fat chance) and joins the Guy Game II development team, a game which finds a home on GAF with GAFFERS yelling "pimp hand!" and "lol awesome combo system!" and "he's a jerk which funny so this game is surprisingly good!" and otherwise continuing to regard his terrible qualities as admirable. :thumbsup

I'm also surprised at some of the people daring to call out the defenders in this thread. These are some of the same people who act like superior assholes in nearly every other thread in which they participate.

It's called being a good person and believe it or not you can do so consistently, not only when lawsuits are involved. Look into it.

I'm sure I come across as a superior asshole in this post. Hmmm...

 

[PleoMax]

Funny, people like Jon Stewart found plenty of humor in the Bill O' Reilly sexual harrassment episode and the recent Mark Foley scandal.

R kelly peeing on 15 year old was funny....and Dave chappelle made it hilarious.

 

[fortified_concept]

Funny, people like Jon Stewart found plenty of humor in the Bill O' Reilly sexual harrassment episode and the recent Mark Foley scandal.

You confuse obvious sarcasm which has as a purpose to mock someone with certain reactions here which are clearly supporting or defending Itagaki's actions. If I had time I'd make a nice list of quotes from this thread. Oh well if the thread is alive when I get back I might do it.

 

[Speevy]

The humor they found in it revolved around making him look like a hypocrite. Not humor in praising him for potentially doing what he was accused of. There's not much humor in giving someone more respect for doing this.

But that's the thing. It's not actual respect, just "What? You crazy bastard."

No one would actually walk up to Itagaki and shake his hand for doing this crap. Good grief, do I really need to spell this out?

Is Bill Clinton cheating on his wife a great thing? No. Has he been called "awesome" for doing it by dozens of television personalities? Absolutely.

 

[X26]

 

[DenogginizerOS]

R kelly peeing on 15 year old was funny....and Dave chappelle made it hilarious.

Not if you were the 15 year old....:lol

 

[Zoramon089]

Some pretty rancid details in the article; taxis, hotels, deep kissing etc., with Itagaki admitting it, but saying it was consensual -- dude is married with children too -- heheh

I don't see how she could let all that happen without it being consensual...but I guess he went too far one time, or something like that I guess

 

[APF]

As a matter of fact, I don't think anyone here is defending Itagaki.

And if he's guilty, **** it, who cares!? He didn't rape her....

I ain't saying she's a golddigger, but she ain't messing with no broke nigga

So yeah..

 

[pubba]

 

[Kittonwy]

Is that cash-money they're holding?

 

[Speevy]

So yeah..

Well then let me say that anyone who had that opinion and took a serious, non-joking stance on it is wrong.

 

[PleoMax]

Bros before hos

 

[pubba]

Looks like some kind of evil pimp money.. Or maybe PS3 preorder slips..

 

[Grifter]

:lol :lol

Sure, these peoples' lives may be ruined, but how does that affect Ninja Gaiden 2??!!!~~

 

[Shompola]

Wonder what yoy guys would say if it was Kojima instead. Think about it for a second and realize your irrational hate for him being cocky in interviews and such.