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"It's Not Your Imagination, Single Women:There Literally Aren't Enough Men Out There"

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People get scholarships to study humanities and other non-career oriented majors.

And thats probably a mostly bad call to be honest. They got scammed out of tens of thousands of dollars for that when all information on Earth can be found on a computer. You can teach yourself anything you want to.

If you are going to college for anything other than money its probably not the best financial call


Edit - Ah you said scholarships. Different then if you get that free hook up
 
Interesting article. When I stop and think about, one of my very highest requirements in a female partner is that they're educated. Well - that they're doing what they want to do at least, pursuing some goal. I don't think that's unreasonable to ask considering that I'm also highly edumacated.

Honestly don't think I could ever date someone who wasn't college educated and worked a blue collar job or whatever. Maybe I should rethink that?

Beyond that, my only other strict wants are no hard drugs or tobacco (alcohol is kewl tho) and to take decent care of themselves. Again, since I follow those too I don't feel like that's unseasonable to ask.

Frankly, outside of hygiene and incompatible ideologies (and probably others that I don't remember right now) I feel like people should try to know, engage with, and consider loving all kinds of people from all kinds of classes and cultures and scenes and all that stuff. I understand that folks want to make a conservative investment but, well... you'll always end up with conservative results and that's just not a good use of life.

Idk, it seems to me that if you're keen to be an educated person who's always willing to learn... why would you be so unwilling to be with someone different?? All this yuppie navel gazing is real confusing to me.
 
I don't understand the whole college thing. If a guy who doesn't have a college degree is making a good living and can provide for a family, why do college-educated women have a problem dating him? Is there a assumption that they're less intelligent?

For me a college degree is simply a shortcut for me to see whether the person is an independent adult. In fact, if they are making things work in spite of having only a high school degree they have my respect.

It's a generalization and you're reading too much into it. Saying "I only date people who have gone to college" is code for "I only date successful people who don't smell like shit at the end of the day."
 
I think I am going to enjoy my 30s. Got back into shape, decent looking, college degree, and no desire to even have a relationship thanks to bitterness over my 20s. Its going to be fun :3
 
Honestly the most disturbing part about this article is talking about men without college degrees like they are "nothing" and not worth a woman with a college degree.

I know plenty of people without a degree that make a fuck ton of cash.

That's really the unfortunate take away from this, it's not about how many available men and women there are, it's about how many can say "Yeah I have a degree.".

I also think as time goes on more and more people don't want kids or marriage, and that tends to clash with people in the OP who essentially dream of those things and make them a requirement.
 
I guess it's all statistics, but it seems like the exact opposite to me. Of all the girls I've met and talked to in, oh, the past five years, none of them have been single. Not one.
 
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I hear this guy only took that pic for a photo-op with a friend. Apparently he really likes the meme.
 
A college degree should only be about money lol

If it didn't get you money it only got you debt....

And yet things aren't always about money. There are things that confer status that aren't tied to money. I'm sure women might find someone with a PhD an even more attractive option than someone with a Bachelor's, even if the dude with the lesser degree is making more.
 
If you're rejecting people simply based on whether they have a certain piece of paper or not, then you probably deserve to be alone.

Or you could do as other posters have suggested, move to Seattle or San Francisco.

Plenty of man-children with degrees out there. I'm sure that'll work out real well.
 
We will have population growth slowdown in the next hundred years or so according to ethnographers, so it will be largely uncharted territory.

Infrastructure doesn't maintain itself. It needs people.

Not when the average life expectancy is 150-200 years due to increases in technological advancement.

By the end of the century, practical immortality is going to be a reality.
 
I guess it's all statistics, but it seems like the exact opposite to me. Of all the girls I've met and talked to in, oh, the past five years, none of them have been single. Not one.
Where are you meeting these women? Doesn't sound like you're going to the areas where you'd find single women.
 
If you are going to college for anything other than money its probably not the best financial call

Is doing anything for a reason other than money a bad call? Or just college?

Anyway you keep rejecting the notion that a college degree can confer status unrelated to wealth, by stating that a college degree OUGHT to be all about money. You do realize that just because you want something to be a certain way doesn't make it that way, right?
 
I generally agree with you. I'm just saying it will be uncharted territory.

Standard of living has gone immensely and not just the top. China was mostly poor farmers last century.

You have African villages that have access to cell services.

In American, food, although many of it low quality, is plentiful. Too much actually lol.

But, we're definitely no utopia, but most people would rather live today than any other century.

This talk has details:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxe73iJPbo

It's by Matt Ridley, who wrote a book talking about this detail.

Humanity is getting better and better everyday.

The Planet is getting worse and worse everyday, that's the argument.
 
And yet things aren't always about money. There are things that confer status that aren't tied to money. I'm sure women might find someone with a PhD an even more attractive option than someone with a Bachelor's, even if the dude with the lesser degree is making more.

I mean to each their own I guess but thats just imagination and fuzzy feelings at that point. It isnt logic. The dude with the PhD who would theoretically be making less will be less financially stable, in deeper debt, and more dependant on his partner and less self sustaining.

That said a lot of attraction is fuzzy feelings and not logical anyways so its all good. Not to mention if you are sexxxy as fuck you cak side step 90% of this stuff anyways. You can basically just skip straight to Go! on the game board and collect your $200
 
What are you getting at? Is it to point out a hypocrisy in not criticizing men for being superficial to DQ women? Is it to point out that trying to defend this sort of "no degree = no sale" dating criteria rings of the same silly defenses for superficial men? Is it a reference to people with "racial preferences" with exclusions of groups and the defenses of that as, like, totally not-racist?

yes. lots of ridiculing and pointing out hypos of the aspects of relationship seeking. But, a lot of it...it's like complaining about the rain when you're out in it. You're going to get wet, and you might have a better way of dealing with it than this. Like say, an umbrella. I noticed interesting trend of interracial marriages, lots of them with black men and to a lesser extent hispanic men end in divorce for one reason or another. And it dawns on me, and was I guess part of the point of the article citing the report. We can overcome discrimination and realities of the class and race differences we're raised with and taught all our lives. But those families couldn't get over the fact that they made less money, had less reliable employment, encountered a lot of difficulties that they might not have had they been a standard vanilla couple. So those exclusive attitudes do stink, but they exist for reasons that no one seems to care to address. If you marry a minority, if you marry someone who doesn't have a college degree, statistically you will have a harder time.

Let alone the fact that a college degree is of questionable value in the real world. Totally depending on your circumstances...the over all point is for you to spend a lot of money, possibly going into debt, for credentials that say you are capable of doing certain tasks or hold a certain level of knowledge. They expect everyone to be able to have this class ability, and if you can't hack it, you may not be as viable in the dating pool. so it's another potentially useless expectation, another process of elimination, and since it was such a focused sociological goal, this all seemed inevitable.
 
I mean to each their own I guess but thats just imagination and fuzzy feelings at that point. It isnt logic. The dude with the PhD who would theoretically be making less will be less financially stable, in deeper debt, and more dependant on his partner and less self sustaining.

That said a lot of attraction is fuzzy feelings and not logical anyways so its all good. Not to mention if you are sexxxy as fuck you cak side step 90% of this stuff anyways. You can basically just skip straight to Go! on the game board and collect your $200

Oh I wasn't aware all of what got your dick hard was based on pure 100% logic.
 
I generally agree with you. I'm just saying it will be uncharted territory.

Standard of living has gone immensely and not just the top. China was mostly poor farmers last century.

You have African villages that have access to cell services.

In American, food, although many of it low quality, is plentiful.

But, we're definitely no utopia, but most people would rather live today than any other century.

This talk has details:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxe73iJPbo

It's by Matt Ridley, who wrote a book talking about this detail.

Humanity is getting better and better everyday.
I understand, but I also have some things in mind like the ride Chile has had over the last century. The advances of the enlightenment and the industrial and technological revolutions coincided with world wars and imperialism. We pat ourselves on the back for the glorious rise of living standards and productivity, but do not often enough look at how equal the ratio is between productivity from a place and living standards raised in that place. Often it is more of a transfer, and only now is technology and globalization of business balancing it out, as we probably most see between the US and China/India.

Go to many places in the world and you will see metros surrounded by slums. For the most part in America we have minimized the slum part, but that is because entire nations are our slums, and have been. We were built on their backs, and the rise of the international conglomerate and centralized production have robbed much of the world of many of the benefits of our findings and developments that could have been shared in far greater equality. Looking forward, particularly in an ecological sense, the metropolis is clearly excessive, wasteful, and unjust. A model that knows how to be stable while scaling back will by nature have to be one that cares for what is wanted for the world and sustainable rather than what is considered fair by tradition.

Basically, global self-awareness and empathy as a species of common dignity/worth and a shared home lagged behind our power of development, but now that we have both, we are capable of embracing the power we hold without holding sacred the methods by which it was attained. The future will require new methods, new structures, new systems, and we need not fear that and cling on to our old dreams just because chasing those dreams got us what we have now. I think if we were more open about the fact it didn't just create the benefits we have now, but also many of the messes, we would be more willing to change. It is inaccurate to think every problem are holdovers from the middle ages and that we've been on the right train just because it got us away from there.

Sorry for the tangent. Although, I do think it is perfectly applicable to the topic, as I really meant what I said about these sort of thoughts in regard to society (women are not dependent on men/marriage because we have advanced) and the world (overpopulation, economic downturn, etc) affecting what decisions we make in regard to the desired sort of love life and commitments to certain relationship and family models.
 
I understand, but I also have some things in mind like the ride Chile has had over the last century. The advances of the enlightenment and the industrial and technological revolutions coincided with world wars and imperialism. We pat ourselves on the back for the glorious rise of living standards and productivity, but do not often enough look at how equal the ratio is between productivity from a place and living standards raised in that place. Often it is more of a transfer, and only now is technology and globalization of business balancing it out, as we probably most see between the US and China/India.

Go to many places in the world and you will see metros surrounded by slums. For the most part in America we have minimized the slum part, but that is because entire nations are our slums, and have been. We were built on their backs, and the rise of the international conglomerate and centralized production have robbed much of the world of many of the benefits of our findings and developments that could have been shared in far greater equality. Looking forward, particularly in an ecological sense, the metropolis is clearly excessive, wasteful, and unjust. A model that knows how to be stable while scaling back will by nature have to be one that cares for what is wanted for the world rather than what is considered fair by tradition.

Basically, global self-awareness and empathy as a species of a shared home lagged behind our power of development, but now that we have both, we are capable of embracing the power we hold without holding sacred the methods by which is was attained. The future will require new methods, new structures, new systems, and we need not fear that and cling on to our old dreams just because chasing those dreams got us what we have now. I think if we were more open about that fact it didn't just create the benefits we have now, but also many of the messes, I think we would be more willing. It is inaccurate to think every problem are holdovers from the middle ages and that we've been on the right train just because it got us away from there.

Sorry for the tangent. Although, I do think it is perfectly applicable to the topic, as I really meant what I said about these sort of thoughts in regard to society (women are not dependent on men/marriage because we have advanced) and the world (overpopulation, economic downturn, etc) affecting what decisions we make in regard to the desired sort of love life and commitments to certain relationship and family models.

Good post. I'm enjoying this discussion, but maybe it should go in another thread, though. I don't mind, though. But I'm not a mod.
 
You do realize that just because you want something to be a certain way doesn't make it that way, right?

I am Yog-Sothoth the All-In-One. I am a being of limitless self and have no confines in you own space-time continuum.

So I mean basically that part you said about me wanting something to be a way and then actually being that way is kiiiiiiiiiiiiinda true

A little bit
 
Damn I wish I could find these beautiful educated women. In my experience it's a pick two of three (beauty, sanity, intelligence). I always pick beauty and sanity and just laugh a lot :) maybe that's why I'm 36 divorced and a serial monagomist.
 
I think it's more alarming there are people that are going to look at this and think, "I have a degree so I'm going to get a lady," as if they are going to somehow be entitled to their pick of the litter simply because they have a degree.

Well based on the article, that is exactly what is happening. Women want to settle down but since there are 4 college educated women for 3 men the guys "shop around" so to speak.
 
A lot of guys in here talking about having great jobs without college degrees. You guys have to understand that those are exceptions. Most people without college degrees don"t do that well.
 
I think it's more alarming there are people that are going to look at this and think, "I have a degree so I'm going to get a lady," as if they are going to somehow be entitled to their pick of the litter simply because they have a degree.

Hopefully it's not the new NiceGuyTM. DegreeGuyTM?

I'm a nerd/smart guy! Where's my girlfriend!? :(
 
Lol. Where does looks fall into all of this?

Its something like

Looks > PhD size > Penis size > Intellect > Street Cred > Nerd Cred > Income > Twitter followers > Instagram likes > Facebook friends.

Its a pretty exact science and formula and if you follow this pattern you are guaranteed mad ladies for life.
 
Its something like

Looks > PhD size > Penis size > Intellect > Street Cred > Nerd Cred > Income > Twitter followers > Instagram likes > Facebook friends.

Its a pretty exact science and formula and if you follow this pattern you are guaranteed mad ladies for life.

I don't know anyone who uses Twitter, but I know a shit ton of people using Instagram. Should I swap those two on my priority list?
 
Its something like

Looks > PhD size > Penis size > Intellect > Street Cred > Nerd Cred > Income > Twitter followers > Instagram likes > Facebook friends.

Its a pretty exact science and formula and if you follow this pattern you are guaranteed mad ladies for life.

What about GAF Cred?
 
Where are you meeting these women? Doesn't sound like you're going to the areas where you'd find single women.

School, mostly.

Like apparently literally everyone else in the world went to magical schools overflowing with single women, but I chose the only one where everyone was already taken.
 
I don't know anyone who uses Twitter, but I know a shit ton of people using Instagram. Should I swap those two on my priority list?

Yes. In my patented approach to the dating game I've laid out the exact steps to take when one needs to swap one step for the other.

Send me only US $99.99 for details and we will have your phone blowing up more than Pompeii in 79 AD
 
What about GAF Cred?
You're already in our pants.

For men, there's still the notion that a guy needs to make more than the girl, and overall there still exists two classist attitudes- white collar > blue collar AND college degree > no college degree, so when you combine these three ideas together you're gong to get college educated women that are going to be ashamed/embarrassed to date a man with no college education. Even if she doesn't care, it's possible she's going to get shit from "society" (her society, the people around her), who will make her feel like she had to "date down" or "settle."
That's what made the first season of The Bachelor hilarious when he dropped the bomb about his actual living. Kinda cruel, and rather twisted that it was a game/prank/test for national entertainment, but still hilarious.
 
School, mostly.

Like apparently literally everyone else in the world went to magical schools overflowing with single women, but I chose the only one where everyone was already taken.

I went to a school that was something like 94.6% male.
Our most popular degrees were robotics and network security.
 
If a woman thinks less of me due to a lack of a college degree, well fuck her then. A piece of fucking paper does not make a person. Especially when it comes with piles of debt before you even own your first home.
 
If a woman thinks less of me due to a lack of a college degree, well fuck her then. A piece of fucking paper does not make a person. Especially when it comes with piles of debt before you even own your first home.

Education makes a person though. Or it is a part of a person, I wouldn't date a wealthy dude who didn't know how to read or write. Some people value education and having a spouse who values education.

Oh but people with better educations typically earn more anyway.

Also unless you would date literally any woman, you have some sort of criteria, why are your criteria acceptable but not women's criteria?
 
What a delightfully classist and elitist sentiment deserving nothing but ridicule and mockery.

This. College isn't for everyone and people really need to stop treating it that way. Some of us don't want to get into mountains of debt for a piece of paper that we may not even use.
 
Guy in his mid-40s says he isn't ready to settle down....I think it's time he seriously considers it
 
If I were to marry a woman, I don't want to marry someone having a career in retail or the food industry. I find it a turn off...god now I know why women dont want to date a 33 yo guy working in retail.
 
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