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It's official: Madden 360 sucks nuts.

got my 360 yesterday, then popped in madden (which i bought on nov 15 :lol ). anyways, what followed was... probably the biggest disappointment i've ever had with a videogame. it's not that madden 360 is the worst game ive ever played, its that madden 2006 (xbox) was the best sports game i've ever played. and when you go from a delicious steak dinner to shit and spunk pie well guess what fellas, it sucks. here is why madden sucks and why i felt the need to create my own thread about it:

1. passing game feels like shit. first off, i can complete bombs whenever i want. secondly, i can complete passes whenever i want. double, triple coverage, doesn't matter. the game makes no fucking sense.

2. game moves too fast and is too herky jerky. i throw a ball and all of a sudden its caught and im tackled or its incomplete. i can't see the plays develop, i can't dissect defenses or anything.

3. the animations suck nuts. there are some decent ones in there, but these are the same animations we had in xbox version for the most part, only now they are completely sped up and disjointed. the animations dont flow together well. its like you get close to a ball carrier, then let the animations do their thing for the next 3 seconds.

4. qb running is ridiculous. hey EA, if alex smith could rip off 20 yards running at will we would be in the playoff hunt. he can't. so why can i outrun the entire D whenever i need a 1st down?

5. i feel like im not in control of anything on the field. i pick the safety, they hand off, i run up to make the tackle and the game stutters so bad that i dont even know wtf is happening. i know ive said this already, but christ it is a joke. there is no possibility to make plays on the ball, no dominating the run game, no nothing.

6. hey EA, why did you change the controls again? i just fucking got used to the new control setup of 2006, now you go and completely change everything again. the default layout is the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen (lets have R trigger as speed burst!) ugh

7. crappy running game. there is no momentum, no strategy to running. speed burst ahead, randomly hit juke, repeat.

i'm sure i've glossed over some stuff, but i think i've said enough about it. there are some small positives here and there (xbl implementation, new playcalling screens, stadiums look incredible, crowd noise is surprisingly good) but who gives a shit at this point.

in the end i dont know what to think about this. is EA waiting for ps3 to make a good next gen football game? did they not have enough time to make a competent 360 game? either way, they sure as fuck better go back to how it was before because this game is more or less garbage.

i have a self imposed ban threat on comparing madden to other football games, past or present, but let me just say that madden 360 is the worst football game i have played since the year 2004, and that is saying something my friends!

p.s.
 
so based on the FMT Rating Scale, it sounds like Madden 360 gets 2 out of 5 Gay Quarterbacks.

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I havent touched my copy in like 2 weeks,utter shit expect for the graphics.I'm most likely going to trade it in for DOA4.

Anyone know if the lag online has been fixed? I really dont want to bother checking.
 
Thanks Madden league buddies who took one for the team! Saved me $60! :D

Lets hope its better next year.

Or :(
 
Matrix said:
I havent touched my copy in like 2 weeks,utter shit expect for the graphics.I'm most likely going to trade it in for DOA4.

Anyone know if the lag online has been fixed? I really dont want to bother checking.

No it hasn't been fixed and I doubt it ever will be.
 
iceDragon7 said:
No it hasn't been fixed and I doubt it ever will be.

Yea this bitch is gone for sure now >_<
 
they should seriously put the ncaa team in charge of madden 07. they seem to be a lot better at tweaking the mechanics of the game. ncaa 06 is probably one of the greatest football games ive ever played (except for the fact that someone programmed dropped passes to happen way too often)
 
madden really pissed me off in 05 when they changed the uniform textures to look HORRIBLE. seriously i dont know if they were trying to go for a more realistic look but it failed miserably. the jerseys look like someone ran then thru a washing machine about a billion times. dark colors look faded and wrong. although the gameplay improvements were awesome
 
This confirms what I had suspected - EA are trying to grab the NFL2K crowd with Madden 360 - great graphics/presentation, shit gameplay.
 
EAJAPAN said:
This confirms what I had suspected - EA are trying to grab the NFL2K crowd with Madden 360 - great graphics/presentation, shit gameplay.

Oh no! What did you do!
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
and when you go from a delicious steak dinner to shit and spunk pie well guess what fellas, it sucks.
Hmmm...I don't imagine a shit and spunk pie would be all that pleasing to eat regardless of what you had eaten previously...
 
i predicted this a long time ago. i knew this first effort would be half assed, which is exactly what it is.

i'm sorry, but the real version will only come out when their main platform is out (playstation 3). next year is the real next-gen madden and live.
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
it's not that madden 360 is the worst game ive ever played, its that madden 2006 (xbox) was the best sports game i've ever played. and when you go from a delicious steak dinner to shit and spunk pie well guess what fellas, it sucks.

I'm pretty sure the Madden team made a lot of both ingredients instead of putting their time into producing a quality game.
 
Here's hoping (but not expecting) that EA doesn't just use the same engine for their NCAA game next year.

I'm skipping Madden 360 because of all the terrible reviews I've read on here.

No excuse for a next-gen title to be behind it's current-gen counterpart in any respect.
 
Glad Best Buy took my opened copy back and put $63 back on my debit card. Anyone else's store taking back opened games sold on the 22nd?
 
I dont post much but I definately had to respond to this.


FrenchMovieTheme said:
1. passing game feels like shit. first off, i can complete bombs whenever i want. secondly, i can complete passes whenever i want. double, triple coverage, doesn't matter. the game makes no fucking sense.
Sure on all-pro. You can't do that on All-Madden Im sorry. I hate EA and I love my ESPN2K5 so Im not biased but wut you're saying is tottaly incorrect. This version almost seems like its back to cheating, I felt in the PS2 version they kinda toned down the super AI a bit.

FrenchMovieTheme said:
2. game moves too fast and is too herky jerky. i throw a ball and all of a sudden its caught and im tackled or its incomplete. i can't see the plays develop, i can't dissect defenses or anything.
Im starting to believe that you can't play Madden. Or maybe you simply have givne yourself enough time to adjust. The 360 version is not a pretty Xbox version. It plays totally different. The game is not faster its actually slower. Linemen are slow and cumbersome like in real life, people who are fast are rightfully slow. It felt like in my PS2 version that everyone was fast regardless of their speed rating. Portis beats people to the outside like he should, I no longer have 3 string DT's running him down to the sideline.


FrenchMovieTheme said:
3. the animations suck nuts. there are some decent ones in there, but these are the same animations we had in xbox version for the most part, only now they are completely sped up and disjointed. the animations dont flow together well. its like you get close to a ball carrier, then let the animations do their thing for the next 3 seconds.
They added new animations and they aren't all that. I agree that the animations are too scripted. I hate how when the RB and my LB get into an animation that I can no longer act on the forward progress of the ball player and I'll run right thru them.

FrenchMovieTheme said:
4. qb running is ridiculous. hey EA, if alex smith could rip off 20 yards running at will we would be in the playoff hunt. he can't. so why can i outrun the entire D whenever i need a 1st down?
You can do this on the PS2 version on All-pro too. Bump it up to all madden.

FrenchMovieTheme said:
5. i feel like im not in control of anything on the field. i pick the safety, they hand off, i run up to make the tackle and the game stutters so bad that i dont even know wtf is happening. i know ive said this already, but christ it is a joke. there is no possibility to make plays on the ball, no dominating the run game, no nothing.
Not to sound like I know it all but maybe your 360 is defective because my game doesn't skip a beat ever. All of your complaints seem based off of skill and not the game.

FrenchMovieTheme said:
6. hey EA, why did you change the controls again? i just fucking got used to the new control setup of 2006, now you go and completely change everything again. the default layout is the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen (lets have R trigger as speed burst!) ugh
Another personal probblem.

FrenchMovieTheme said:
7. crappy running game. there is no momentum, no strategy to running. speed burst ahead, randomly hit juke, repeat.
Turn it off all-pro. I disagree completely and I feel that its a decent improvement. The run blocking still needs a lot of work but its improved a BIT.
 
i tried all madden and all pro. the game sucks, but if you enjoy it im happy for you. still, i hope EA goes back to how things were before. this isn't an adjustment problem, the game isn't good.

p.s. i have completed long bombs + triple coverage passes on all madden as well. oh, and the no camera options thing is probably one of the worst things in the game that i didn't list
 
shpankey said:
i'm sorry, but the real version will only come out when their main platform is out (playstation 3). next year is the real next-gen madden and live.

EA always serves a shit buffet at every gaming system launch. I don't expect PS3 to be any different.

They basically stole money from anyone that bought their PSP launch sports games, same for 360, and even Madden 2001 that launched with the PS2 wasn't all that great.
 
Larry Probst, EA CEO, admitted at a recent conference that their 360 efforts have fallen short. He admitted that they "ran out of time" and had to settle for improving the graphics and didn't have the time to work on gameplay issues. He promised gameplay will be fixed next year. You can listen to the conference presentation by going to EA website investor relations.
 
Amused_To_Death said:
Larry Probst, EA CEO, admitted at a recent conference that their 360 efforts have fallen short. He admitted that they "ran out of time" and had to settle for improving the graphics and didn't have the time to work on gameplay issues. He promised gameplay will be fixed next year. You can listen to the conference presentation by going to EA website investor relations.

Nice, low sales are forcing EA to hurry up the improvement schedule. Maybe it wont take them 5 years to perfect the Madden engine like it did on PS2.
 
Why aren't you just happy with your old version if it's so good? How many madden games have you bought over the years anyway?

I dont see how, after screwing this release up, going BACK to how good it was before would be such a GREAT thing for EA to do.

They should just stop making them altogether ;)
 
Dont get me wrong, this game is FAAAARRRR from perfect. Ive turned it off plenty of times but one thing has kept it from being sold.

I enjoy this game because of the new engine. It feels fresh and new, its definately not polished but I knew that when I got it. Anyone who expected perfection were idiots for expecting that from an EA product. The reviews I read for it said it was at least decent and thats pretty good for an EA game. I feel that the game has tons of potential and will definately need to be tweaked.

After the bugs and kinks are ironed out I feel that only one more addition is needed. I read an interview with the developer and he said they will be adding in a physics based animation system. Remeber that movie posted on here with the real time animation? So no longer will plays be dictated by premade animations. Everything will be based off collision and that'll be terriffic.
 
Why aren't you just happy with your old version if it's so good? How many madden games have you bought over the years anyway?

i would be perfectly happy going back to it if i had my xbox 1 still, which i don't, and since madden 2006 isn't backwards compatible im screwed!
 
DCX said:
You guys wish you didn't do away with Season 2 now huh? :P

DCX

I'm pretty ticked that I went and traded in my xbox version of this when everyone dumped season 2 and committed to the 360. I miss Vick. :(
 
Glad I passed on Madden. I wish EA would make Madden '06 (Xbox) backwards compatible, but you know that isn't going to happen. Oh well, hopefully next year is better :(
 
There are 2 things you have to know about the 360 version.

1. This game was meant to be alot more accessible to new players as EA and MS felt like they would be getting alor of first time Madden players since it is the only football game on the 360. Having frustrated players was not something either wanted. Didn't hear anything, but from playing the game, it seems that is the approach they took.

2. The game isn't finished. In a few interviews you the producers have said that they couldn't get features in and even gameplay elements didn't make it in. So next year will see the real next-gen of Madden. The game will actually be finished!
 
EA always serves a shit buffet at every gaming system launch. I don't expect PS3 to be any different.

I was one of the silly ones that thought EA would be able to raise the bar and let us know what Nex Gen was all about.

Silly me.
 
WTF, speed burst is mapped to a trigger? That goes against 10 years of Madden gaming! Why would they change that?
 
FMT is arguing with others that Madden 360 is crap?

IT'S BIZZARO GAF!! DOWN IS UP, UP IS DOWN!!

To be fair, i don't think it's too horrible of a game. Sure a lot of things do suck, like the crappy framerate (which when used to the current gen maddens, feels extremely slow), The buttons being remapped for no reason, and the overall lack of any extras whatsoever. And what's with the optional vision cone?

There are some good things though, like the new playcalling screen is pretty sweet, as is the new kick meter. As for always completing long bombs, and not being able to see plays develop, I don't really have many problems with that. I don't seem to complete a higher precentage of bombs than I did on current gen madden 06.

Guileless said:
WTF, speed burst is mapped to a trigger? That goes against 10 years of Madden gaming! Why would they change that?

Yeah, that took me about 3 games to figure out.
 
Guileless said:
WTF, speed burst is mapped to a trigger? That goes against 10 years of Madden gaming! Why would they change that?

Yeah, it took me a couple games to figure this out as well. I don't see why they changed it.
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
5. i feel like im not in control of anything on the field. i pick the safety, they hand off, i run up to make the tackle and the game stutters so bad that i dont even know wtf is happening. i know ive said this already, but christ it is a joke. there is no possibility to make plays on the ball, no dominating the run game, no nothing.

That sums up my biggest issue with the game, bar none.

Sean*O said:
Good. It's official then.

It's been official since the 23rd of november. Did you read any of the earlier posts?
 
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