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[Parallax Scroll]

I played for the first time this weekend. For years I've intentionally avoided this and all other MMORPGs, but I was bored so I started up a game. I'm really enjoying the game and the world so far. Currently I'm a level 12 human warrior.

Spoiler

OH GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE

 

[NameGenerated]

Don't worry. Everything is amazing the first time. Unfortunately, you can never reach that high again.

 

[TheExodu5]

Seriously, have fun. I went through a phase 2 months or so ago, going from rpg to rpg with a few buddies. We played D2 (hardcore), Titan Quest, Sacred 2. Now, we just decided to go back into WoW. We're really having a blast. This is seriously one of the best multiplayer games ever released.

I still have my 70 Rogue from pre-WOTLK, but I'm now leveling a Warlock alongside my buddies. At level 44 so far. Hopefully I can hit Outlands this weekend.

Don't worry. Everything is amazing the first time. Unfortunately, you can never reach that high again.

I don't know. It was a whole new game when I reached level 70 in BC. I had a blast. Raiding is a lot of fun. So is World PvP, BGs, Arenas. There's always tons of stuff to do. The worst part is doing dailies.

 

[NameGenerated]

Ok, besides maybe PvP, everything (to me at least) was best the very first time. I was just awesome discovering and exploring all the new locations and enemies. I kind of want to start up again, I tried to when Lich King came out but got to 72 and called it quits. Probably because all my RL friends quit.

 

[TheExodu5]

Yeah the game tends to get boring when you have no friends to play with. I got to 70 mostly solo, but at least I had some buddies to chat with in my server and on Ventrilo while I was doing so.

 

[Quake1028]

Seriously, have fun. I went through a phase 2 months or so ago, going from rpg to rpg with a few buddies. We played D2 (hardcore), Titan Quest, Sacred 2. Now, we just decided to go back into WoW. We're really having a blast. This is seriously one of the best multiplayer games ever released.

I still have my 70 Rogue from pre-WOTLK, but I'm now leveling a Warlock alongside my buddies. At level 44 so far. Hopefully I can hit Outlands this weekend.



I don't know. It was a whole new game when I reached level 70 in BC. I had a blast. Raiding is a lot of fun. So is World PvP, BGs, Arenas. There's always tons of stuff to do. The worst part is doing dailies.

You hope to gain 14 levels by the weekend? I salute you, sir.

 

[DrBo42]

I just started playing recently too, I'm Horde on Gorefiend named Cowdelicious. Guess what race? :lol Hit me up if you're on there too.

 

[Mar]

How exactly does it make you frown? I've gone over 30 hours in two weeks. The last two weeks I barely played at all.Most weeks I am around 16-17 hours. That's a little over 2 hours a day, including weekends. I have a full-time job, a part-time occasional job, a live in girlfriend and I go to the gym every night. Trust me, my life is not suffering because of this game.

This is the first sign of an addiction that leads to a problem. Justifying the insane hours you play by talking about all the activities you do when you aren't playing. Trust me man, we've all been there. I used to say pretty much the same as what you're saying, except I was married.

 

[Quake1028]

:lol . OK, whatever you say.

 

[Quake1028]

And really, some of you would categorize 16 hours a week as "insane"? This is the only game I currently play, with the exception of some MLB 09. I guess I just don't really get the "insane" or "addicted" comments. As I said when I started this thread, I am an EQ veteran, and am MUCH less addicted to WoW than I was to EQ.

 

[Struct09]

I played for the first time this weekend. For years I've intentionally avoided this and all other MMORPGs, but I was bored so I started up a game. I'm really enjoying the game and the world so far. Currently I'm a level 12 human warrior.

Spoiler

OH GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE

I'll tell you what you've done, you rolled the most boring race and class combination possible.

I kid, enjoy the game. And remember, everything in moderation.

 

[Windu]

Playing WoW for the first time was probably my favorite gaming experience. One of the best games of all time, but after 3 to 4 years of playing it, I got tired of it.

 

[Zizbuka]

Meh, let my account die a couple of months ago after over 3 years. Had 1 80, 4 70+ and some other alts. Just got bored.

I started playing Runes of Magic and it more than satisfies the little MMO itch I have left. I recommend checking it out. I even sent them real money for mounts, much better than grinding for one.

Don't miss WoW one bit, which really surprised me.

 

[Struct09]

Don't miss WoW one bit, which really surprised me.

I'm the same way. I played WoW like crazy from closed beta up until BC came out (I resubbed when WotLK came out and hit 80, then stopped again). I see it as a blessing that I was able to suddenly stop playing and have no desire to go back.

I still consider WoW to be one of the greatest games in existence, but I don't feel the need to invest any more of my time into it.

 

[whitehawk]

I don't get it. I got a Wow trial, and booted it up. After fucking hours and hours of downloading updates, I got into the game. I walked around for 10 minutes, didn't know what the hell to do, so I just closed it down. I haven't played since.

What's the appeal? I understand I probably didn't play enough, but moving around felt weird and it didn't appeal to me.

I have a friend who's brother is addicted to Warcraft. he's like 25, and all he does is sit in his room all day and play WoW, while listening to Japanese anime music. I don't understand.

 

[TheExodu5]

You played for 10 minutes. A game where you spend hundreds upon hundreds of hours on a single character. And you gave up after 10 minutes.

Of course you don't understand the appeal.

 

[aktham]

Anybody who can enjoy a game that's a fetch quest till you reach a max level then the game turns into a collectathon must have a learning disability. I played the free month (during semester break) with RAF and maxed my character and quit when the time ran out (I played it like Diablo II, except with lamer story/quests and you know...it doesn't have an end). It's my first and last MMORPG. Another reason I hate MMORPGs is because they reward time played rather than skill, since there's hardly any skill involved.

I would say everybody should give it a try. It was really fun leveling with friend who was new to the game too (at 3xp). Once you reach max level just call it good and you "beat the game", because the most fun part is already over with. If you decide to keep playing, it turns into this

Raid and Grind to get better stats/gear.
Make gold as you wait for new content.
Blizzard releases patch.
Raid and Grind to get better stats/gear

 

[aktham]

I don't get it. I got a Wow trial, and booted it up. After fucking hours and hours of downloading updates, I got into the game. I walked around for 10 minutes, didn't know what the hell to do, so I just closed it down. I haven't played since.

What's the appeal? I understand I probably didn't play enough, but moving around felt weird and it didn't appeal to me.

I have a friend who's brother is addicted to Warcraft. he's like 25, and all he does is sit in his room all day and play WoW, while listening to Japanese anime music. I don't understand.

Well you have to do quests to earn xp to level up, it helps if you had the tutorial turned on. Like I said the progression in the early level is really fun when you're new to the game. I can remember when I saved up my gold because I wanted to get my mount at 30 (fun times). The discovering the world is what was really appealing to me. All of that is lost at the later levels tho and it just turns into World of Borecraft. Sadly it takes some people 1000s of hours to realize this.

 

[TheExodu5]

Anybody who can enjoy a game that's a fetch quest till you reach a max level then the game turns into a collectathon must have a learning disability. I played the free month (during semester break) with RAF and maxed my character and quit when the time ran out (I played it like Diablo II, except with lamer story/quests and you know...it doesn't have an end). It's my first and last MMORPG. Another reason I hate MMORPGs is because they reward time played rather than skill, since there's hardly any skill involved.

I would say everybody should give it a try. It was really fun leveling with friend who was new to the game too (at 3xp). Once you reach max level just call it good and you "beat the game", because the most fun part is already over with. If you decide to keep playing, it turns into this

Raid and Grind to get better stats/gear.
Make gold as you wait for new content.
Blizzard releases patch.
Raid and Grind to get better stats/gear

Holy fuck you have no clue what you're talking about. :lol

I'd like to see you take on Mimiron, even with maxed gear. I'd like to see you be successful at PvP. The game can take a lot of skill.

Also, you're saying you reached max level in 1 month? You would have had to be playing for like 80 hours a week to do that. How the fuck can you talk badly about a game that had you playing for 80 hours a week.

 

[Quake1028]

Well, apparently I play "insane" amounts of time and it's going to take me in total about 4 1/2 months to reach 80 with no RAF. So if he was playing a lot for that month I guess I can see it. Or he means maxed as in level 60 or 70.

 

[aktham]

Holy fuck you have no clue what you're talking about. :lol

I'd like to see you take on Mimiron, even with maxed gear. I'd like to see you be successful at PvP. The game can take a lot of skill.

Also, you're saying you reached max level in 1 month? You would have had to be playing for like 80 hours a week to do that. How the fuck can you talk badly about a game that had you playing for 80 hours a week.

Here we go...80 hours a week? i don't know where you get your figures from. You can got 1-60 in 15 hours (3xp). As for PVP I found it shallow and unbalanced at best. I'm a tournament player in counterstike and fighting games, so excuse me if I say WoW doesnt take skill.

 

[TheExodu5]

Here we go...80 hours a week? i don't know where you get your figures from. You can got 1-60 in 15 hours (3xp). As for PVP I found it shallow and unbalanced at best. I'm a tournament player in counterstike and fighting games, so excuse me if I say WoW doesnt take skill.

Okay, I've played lots of tourney CS...you can't compare pure reaction times with intense knowledge of a game like WoW and the strategy that goes into arena.

CS and fighting games may take a lot of skill, but they're very simplistic to learn.

I'm not saying WoW takes more skill, but to say it's no skill, is completely laughable. Like I said, there's no way you could hope to be successful in arenas without many, many months of playing and deep knowledge of the game.

Also, 1-60 in 15 hours? Either you, or the friend you were playing with, knew the game completely and planned a leveling run for that. You were either being constantly run, or were gifted many levels. 1-60 in 15 hours is a really difficult feat to achieve (yes, even with the 3x xp).

Anyways, you sound like a guy who doesn't enjoy these types of games. To pummel through 1-60 in 15 hours on your first playthrough is laughable, and a complete waste of your time.

 

[GDJustin]

WoW doesn't need to be a "lifestyle." It doesn't need to be something you're either hooked on, or "quit for good."

Whenever a new WoW expac comes out, I play for 3-4 months. When a new content patch comes out (like the recent 3.1) I play for another 1-2 months.

Whenever I get bored and find myself not logging in much, I unsubscribe until I get the itch to dive back in.

Likewise, whenever I'm sitting around in the evening with no new games to play, no movies I wanna watch, feeling bored... that's when I'm more likely to resubscribe and tool around Azeroth for another month.

It's a pretty healthy way to enjoy the game, in my opinion. I hadn't played Wrath since December, when I signed back up to play for another month last month. And it was GREAT. All the dailies I was sick of were fun again. All the zones I was bored with was was excited to finish up the quest achievement.

 

[aktham]

Okay, I've played lots of tourney CS...you can't compare pure reaction times with intense knowledge of a game like WoW and the strategy that goes into arena.

CS and fighting games may take a lot of skill, but they're very simplistic to learn.

I'm not saying WoW takes more skill, but to say it's no skill, is completely laughable. Like I said, there's no way you could hope to be successful in arenas without many, many months of playing and deep knowledge of the game.

Also, 1-60 in 15 hours? Either you, or the friend you were playing with, knew the game completely and planned a leveling run for that. You were either being constantly run, or were gifted many levels. 1-60 in 15 hours is a really difficult feat to achieve (yes, even with the 3x xp).

Anyways, you sound like a guy who doesn't enjoy these types of games. To pummel through 1-60 in 15 hours on your first playthrough is laughable, and a complete waste of your time.

Ok I don't want to be a negative nancy and derail this thread any longer. I agree the game is fun to play the first time especially if it's your first MMORPG. I just wanted to give my point of view to the first time players and what to expect.

I was saying you CAN get to 60 in that much time or less. I don't remember how long it took me (not 15 that's for sure), but my guildies where saying WTF at how fast I was leveling, mostly because I already caught on the the fetchquest formula and just wanted to level as soon as I could.

Clicking buttons for DPS cycle/healing cycle/holding aggro =/= still little skill. We'll agree to disagree on that. A fairly inexperinced wow player can defeat a better wow player based on gear/ time invested into the character. That is another reason why I say WoW requires little skill (it's played by little kids and women who never played games before for godness sake).

TLDR crowed: Enjoy the game and quit as soon as you feel the the rinse and repeat, it only gets worse from there.

 

[TheExodu5]

Clicking buttons for DPS cycle/healing cycle/holding aggro =/= still little skill. We'll agree to disagree on that. A fairly inexperinced wow player can defeat a better wow player based on gear/ time invested into the character. That is another reason why I say WoW requires little skill (it's played by little kids and women who never played games before for godness sake).

Like I've said, you haven't done high level PvP or taken on bosses like Mimiron. All you're doing is assuming.

 

[rnwd]

My friend keeps pushing me to pick up the game, but the two other times, I never made it beyond level 20. I can see the appeal of the endgame stuff, but I just don't think I've got the patience to wade through everything required to get to that point.

 

[Cipherr]

I started playing Runes of Magic and it more than satisfies the little MMO itch I have left. I recommend checking it out.

Thanks, I will.

 

[Sciz]

So far, the only problem I have is the complete lack of players on my server, Laughing Skull. Well, there's not a lack of players. There's a lack of players my level. If Blood Elves are the most popular Horde race I can't imagine the other races home cities, because this shit is empty as fuck.

It is unfortunately difficult to find groups for lower level content these days, since most players are up at the higher end and it's been made considerably easier to level alts these days. The plus side is that you don't really need groups for anything except for instances.

Most players are up in Dalaran these days unless they need to visit the auction house. For the Alliance that means Ironforge or Stormwind, with Darnassus and the Exodar being ghost towns. Orgrimmar is the only old Horde city to see any significant traffic as far as I'm aware, but then I don't play Horde.

 

[firex]

I recently got into WoW and this seems to be the only topic for new players, aside from the official WoW thread which is intimidating when you're level 14 and everyone else is level 80 and talking about a bunch of shit you have no clue about.

I avoided it and other mmo's after FFXI, being the most time consuming mmo I've ever played. I'm glad I gave it a shot.

I am really liking it so far, much more than I did with other mmos I played. Actually, I'm not just liking it...I'm loving it, which is so damn surprising. It's actually more fun than most single player rpgs.

I am playing a horde character; blood elf rogue. I really enjoy playing rogue in WoW. It's so different than how I normally play an rpg; being forced to use stealth, snipe enemies from afar to bait them into attacking me individually rather than in a group due to my crappy armor, being able to handle a group of 3 or so monsters if I manage to play my cards right and use the right skills in the right rotation.

It contains a level of strategy that I usually don't get from real time rpgs.

The quests are really fun. What makes WoW stand out from other mmo's I've played is that not only do the quests manage to blend in and form a cohesive story about a particular faction or race's plight, they do this without being time consuming. I can ideally log into WoW right after my morning jog for a quickie, do a quest for 15 minutes and finish in time for breakfast.

This is also the first mmo I've played where the story actually interests me. I'm playing to find out what happens next; how we can rebuild the land of Silvermoon after such an attack, and how the Blood Elves live in such situations. The game's quests do a great job of setting up a tone, a sense of place, a common goal, and make you feel like you're doing more than just killing murlok's or grabbing loot, at least to me; I actually care about the situation. The fact that the Ghostlands are currently inhabited by monsters, many of the nearby towns taken over by monsters or inhabited by filthy, dirty Alliance scrub spies interests me and I actually want to fix it. This is the first time that has ever happened in an mmo I've played.

So far, the only problem I have is the complete lack of players on my server, Laughing Skull. Well, there's not a lack of players. There's a lack of players my level. If Blood Elves are the most popular Horde race I can't imagine the other races home cities, because this shit is empty as fuck.

That said, my best friend's guild recruited me so it's not boring at all. The problem is they're all level 80 and doing raids and stuff. I, however, can't do that, due to how low a level I am. I just wish I could play with other players my level.

reroll death knight lmao

edit: for serious, you will never run into players in Silvermoon except low level blood elves. once you are through with ghostlands everybody will be in Orgrimmar or Dalaran. And once you're done with ghostlands you have pre-TBC content to go back to, which is a lot less fun. The linear zone progression will go away in favor of 2-4 areas you will choose for leveling, although I recommend just staying on Kalimdor after you are done with ghostlands, and going through the south barrens, ashenvale, stonetalon mountains, and thousand needles (not really in that order).

 

[VAIL]

Yesterday I finished up at least 3-4 quests in the hour I managed to play. I was hoping I'd almost be out of the Ghostlands. Then I turned level 15 and the game was like,"Welp, you're staying here bitch!" and about 9999 new quests opened up.

Sigh.

What I do when I roll a new character is just do the very first batch of quests in that zone, to get to level 4 or so, then I make my way to another zone and start questing from there, so not only will you get your "normal" mount from where you started, but you'll be much closer to being exhalted with another faction, and thus getting another mount.

 

[GDJustin]

Yesterday I finished up at least 3-4 quests in the hour I managed to play. I was hoping I'd almost be out of the Ghostlands. Then I turned level 15 and the game was like,"Welp, you're staying here bitch!" and about 9999 new quests opened up.

Sigh.

Ghostlands is 1-20.

But, don't be so eager to leave. Blood Elves (and their two starting zones) were added in the Burning Crusade expansion, so the content is quite a bit higher quality than the rest of the lvl 1-60 zones.

 

[Sciz]

Yesterday I finished up at least 3-4 quests in the hour I managed to play. I was hoping I'd almost be out of the Ghostlands. Then I turned level 15 and the game was like,"Welp, you're staying here bitch!" and about 9999 new quests opened up.

Sigh.

You'll miss it once it's gone and you start suffering through vanilla content for the next forty levels.

 

[BrokenSymmetry]

you will never run into players in Silvermoon except low level blood elves.

Go play on a role-playing server. Lots of activity in Silvermoon City there

 

[ScOULaris]

This is what's gonna happen once you stop playing. (I chose my own epic rendition of the iconic video.)

You've been warned.

 

[Blast Processing]

I still consider myself pretty new and casual to wow, and my main, my orc warrior, is 61, and I have a level 13 mage alt, a blood elf.

Silvermoon is always dead on my server, but Orgrimmar is always packed. I've just recently made it to Outland, and it's great, but it's not like Classic Azeroth is terrible, guys, come on. Maybe it's harder to go back after 60-80 in Outland and Northrend, but Vanilla WoW is still pretty impressive coming from a FFXI background.

 

[Flib]

Wait till you guys get to Northrend...the step up in quest quality, the epicness and sheer scale of the landscape, the variety of things you'll be doing will just absolutely blow you away.

 

[Sciz]

I've just recently made it to Outland, and it's great, but it's not like Classic Azeroth is terrible, guys, come on. Maybe it's harder to go back after 60-80 in Outland and Northrend, but Vanilla WoW is still pretty impressive coming from a FFXI background.

It's been made better in recent years since more flight points were added, mounts are available earlier, exp requirements were reduced, and most elite quest mobs were nerfed into the ground. Even easier yet if it's an alt and you can load him up with heirloom gear. And it's still tedious to go through thanks to all the quests that send you most of the way across a zone and back, not to mention escort quests and the tendency for quest items to have frustratingly low drop rates and the general lack of variety throughout it all.

 

[firex]

Northrend really is pretty awesome. it makes the previous content feel pretty boring in comparison, although honestly I just like tightly packed zones for old content. So even though it's boring, the closely packed grind of Stranglethorn Vale and the new Dustwallow Marsh are pretty nice for "old" content. I think the only bad leveling zones are the vanilla "endgame" zones like East Plaguelands, Burning Steppes/Searing Gorge, Silithus, and Winterspring.

I mean just getting to Winterspring requires grinding some stupid bullshit or killing an endless tunnel of mobs, and when you get there, you get to deal with mobs full of annoying crap like 30 minute debuff diseases.

Anyway Himu/Icehouse/Homersexual should reroll death knight lol. But in all honesty, if you ever do make a DK, try a race besides blood elf. I can't give any actual rogue tips though. I have one rogue alt that I leveled up until I got bored, because rogues sucked then and I don't really like how they play.

 

[bill0527]

I've managed to lose 15 pounds (and counting) since I quit playing WoW back in April.

 

[Google]

I've managed to lose 15 pounds (and counting) since I quit playing WoW back in April.

You know, it's quite possible to play videogames, and still go to the gym and not eat pizza's five times a week.

 

[Einbroch]

Playing WoW for the first time was a pretty good time, but certainly not a blast.

However, it wasn't as "magical" as when I first started playing Ragnarok Online. Before that, I played EverQuest, which was even more "magical".

Nothing can compare to that first MMO. I'm not putting down WoW. I just think that your first MMO that you really get into is special, and if WoW did that for you, awesome.

 

[maniac-kun]

Anybody who can enjoy a game that's a fetch quest till you reach a max level then the game turns into a collectathon must have a learning disability. I played the free month (during semester break) with RAF and maxed my character and quit when the time ran out (I played it like Diablo II, except with lamer story/quests and you know...it doesn't have an end). It's my first and last MMORPG. Another reason I hate MMORPGs is because they reward time played rather than skill, since there's hardly any skill involved.

I would say everybody should give it a try. It was really fun leveling with friend who was new to the game too (at 3xp). Once you reach max level just call it good and you "beat the game", because the most fun part is already over with. If you decide to keep playing, it turns into this

Raid and Grind to get better stats/gear.
Make gold as you wait for new content.
Blizzard releases patch.
Raid and Grind to get better stats/gear

well when playing with 3x exp and the help of a expierienced player you didnt learn anything about your class and you problably havent read any quests and talk about the bad story and gameplay when you destroyed it by rushing through many cool things in the game. when you say you played it like diablo 2 i guess you mean that stupid shit thats going on in battle.net all the time when people do anything to level as quick as possible and rush though all acts.

the higherend dungeons require lots of movement and skill to survive remember the blizzard mantra: easy to learn - hard to master. this applies to every aspect of the game.

 

[PatzCU]

So far, the only problem I have is the complete lack of players on my server, Laughing Skull. Well, there's not a lack of players. There's a lack of players my level. If Blood Elves are the most popular Horde race I can't imagine the other races home cities, because this shit is empty as fuck.

Stick with Laughing Skull. There is most certainly not a lack of players. I've played on Laughing Skull since the WoW launch and I have to say it's one of the best servers you could play on, especially horde side. There is a very active community, lots of high end players, and if you aren't in a top-end guild, much of the raiding content is PUG'd on Laughing Skull. This meaning that you will be able to play through the raid dungeons without NEEDING to deal with a guild. There are also quite a few Arena players that play at the tournament level.

Once you hit level 58 you can go to the Outlands and you'll see plenty of people running around. Also, as was already stated, Silvermoon is the LEAST populated Horde city. Orgrimmar on Laughing Skull has hundreds of players running around.

 

[bill0527]

You know, it's quite possible to play videogames, and still go to the gym and not eat pizza's five times a week.

Not World of Warcraft... at least not at the highest levels I was playing at trying to push new content.

If you want proof.. go the official Guild Recruitment forums and read the requirements most of the top guilds have for joining. Its at least a 25 hour a week part-time job or you're going to get left behind.

 

[offtopic]

Not World of Warcraft... at least not at the highest levels I was playing at trying to push new content.

If you want proof.. go the official Guild Recruitment forums and read the requirements most of the top guilds have for joining. Its at least a 25 hour a week part-time job or you're going to get left behind.

Well, not everyone has to play at the most bleeding edge to enjoy the game and still make significant progression. My guild raids 9-10hrs/week and we've killed yogg and done a couple hardmodes already. Are we 'the first'? Heck no...but we do get there and enjoy the challenge of raiding seriously on a more limited time budget. The hardcore guilds aren't all that far in front of us...heck...my gear is about the same and I put up better dps numbers than members of the more advanced guilds on my server. /shrug

Its all relative and there really is no reason to pack on 15lbs and sign your life over.

 

[Flib]

Blizz will make you change your name at some point probably.

Also, you guys should try some of the more interesting classes besides standard warrior/rogue etc.

 

[maniac-kun]

Well, what's more interesting that warrior and rogue? I picked warrior because I want him to be a death knight later on. I figured warrior -> death knight would make more sense in regards to overall stats and equipment than any other class but what do I know?

Blizz will make me change my name? Himurosexual != Homosexual!

death knights are new characters you dont convert one into a dk you get lvl 55 and they are unlocked at the char creation window. and theres noting wrong with rouges they are one of the few pure damage classes and your enemys will hate you on the battlegrounds / arena

 

[GDJustin]

Not World of Warcraft... at least not at the highest levels I was playing at trying to push new content.

If you want proof.. go the official Guild Recruitment forums and read the requirements most of the top guilds have for joining. Its at least a 25 hour a week part-time job or you're going to get left behind.

Yeah... you dunno what you're talking about. Most normal, well-adjusted adults that play WoW treat it about the same as our parents generation treated their softball league.

YES, you have to sign on and raid at a specific time ("OH NO!! WTF how can people SCHEDULE their videogame time?!?") - but that doesn't mean it needs to be a part-time job.

11 guilds on my server have downed the game's current final boss. The hardcore ones did it right away. The guilds that raid two nights a week are the ones currently working their way through endgame.

 

[aryies]

levelling my rogue was the most fun class i levelled. closely followed by my priest

 

[bill0527]

Yeah... you dunno what you're talking about. Most normal, well-adjusted adults that play WoW treat it about the same as our parents generation treated their softball league.

As I said earlier, you've obviously never been to the guild recruitment forums and browsed the pages and pages of guilds looking to recruit for endgame.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?sid=1&forumId=7244843


Here's the first one on the list:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18312414699&sid=1

5 nights a week, 4 hours minimum each night, then add time you need to farm for repairs, ammo, and consumables and it easily turns into 25+ hours a week. This is just one example. Most of the first page is filled with guilds like this. Some don't require as much time.. some require even more.

If you're in a guild that is downing Yogg-Saron on 10 hours a week play time, you are either extremely lucky, or you're being carried by those that put a lot more time into the game and are better geared.