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[finskninja]

Ahh first time in northrend dont forget to have the music on aswell Pretty nice stuff!

 

[luka]

THis is your first time and you're using quest helper?

:lol Yeah, well...The guys that convinced me to play really wanted me to get me to 60 as fast as possible, and I wasn't actually planning on spending a particularly large amount of time on this game. I didn't think much of using it because the classic quests and areas really aren't exceptionally compelling. Tranquillien/Silvermoon was nice though.

Ahh first time in northrend dont forget to have the music on aswell Pretty nice stuff!

Yeah, that's another thing that struck me pretty quick. I barely even noticed there was music in this game until WotLK. :lol

 

[Lord Phol]

This game can be quite beautiful , almost makes one wanna give this... no! >: (

 

[Jord]

THis is your first time and you're using quest helper?

What's wrong with that? A feature that should have been in the game in the first place.

I probably would have given up at 30 if it wasn't for Quest Helper.

 

[Jord]

I dunno. A part of an mmo's enjoyment for me is the discovery and exploration.

Having an arrow point to the next quest directive and that x/y enemy needed to complete the quest is 15 feet away would only ruin the experience.

I guess. But for me (this was/is my first MMO), the quests just became so anal and repetitive by level 20. The thought of wondering around aimlessley looking for the objective really put me off. Maybe it was because I came straight from a lifetime of console gaming, spoiled with waypoints and map markers.

Still, it definitely did not ruin it for me, WoW has been one of the best gaming experiences ever. Shame my heart's not in it anymore :-(

 

[Deacan]

I wanted a change of scenery for a bit to I made a Horde character.
I was told to head to the Blood Elf area as the quests give much better rewards, Its fun being a Orc in a Robe.

Oh and is it me or does my Orc look like Nick Nolte

 

[Nolimit_SS]

luka, what settings are you playing on, that looks much better then mine and I got all on max...

Just bought gamecard, time to play a bit while waiting for AION

 

[Milpool]

If you're playing it at max and it doesn't look as good, make sure you've change the multisampling (AA) to 4x or higher.

 

[1up]

Same. I asked him this last page and didn't get an answer.

I got my max settings macro from Xabora...now where did he get to?

 

[Sciz]

luka, what settings are you playing on, that looks much better then mine and I got all on max...

Given that even the UI is slightly fuzzy, I'd guess that the pictures were resized down just a bit. Does wonders for image quality.

 

[Blast Processing]

THis is your first time and you're using quest helper?

My first is 62, and I've been using QH since level 40ish, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Cuts out literally all the hassle and uncertainty about where mobs spawn and stuff, and lets me concentrate on the parts of the game I find the most fun.

With a little bit of tweaking you can get rid of things you consider extraneous or too "easy mode." I turned off the quest arrow first thing, and basically just use it for the map icons and improved quest tracker.

Don't just write it off as a cheat/shortcut, think of it more like setting the difficulty of an open world game to easy in order to get more out of the bits you like.

 

[luka]

Same. I asked him this last page and didn't get an answer.

Heh. Sorry, didn't see that. I'm playing it maxed at 1920x1080 with 4xAA. Actually, not even that. I had to turn down the shadows to medium to get a solid framerate with my 4870x2. It's kind of fucked up but the shadows in WoW seem to play hell with ATI cards in general.

Outland and Northrend are much much prettier than the classic zones with lots of extra effects and nicer skyboxes so that's probably why my shots seem better.

 

[Blast Processing]

There was something in the 3.2 patch notes about fixing framerate problems related to shadows. Have you tried turning them back up and noticed any difference?

I've got everything set to Ultra on my Core i7, 6GB RAM, 4850 512MB machine, and everything seems fine (and did before the update, too). I'm not a huge graphics guy, though, so even if something was a bit sub-par I might not even notice.

 

[Chris R]

Only two more levels until you should be going to Northrend. Thing that sucks about the overall visuals is that Borean Tundra is the worst, but is usually the zone you start out in :| Quests are also much better, and just get better as you go along.

 

[luka]

Oh wow. So you can change the settings in it?

I'm going to have to check this out. I like the exploration aspect, but when I have to jump through hoops to find a mob because the damn quest info just says,"to the west" and I spend an hour of my time looking for that shit it feels like a waste of time.

Looking into this.

What type of options does the add on let you customize.

QH doesn't have a configuration panel you can access through the settings menu. You have to type "/qh settings" to change it.

 

[firex]

I dunno. A part of an mmo's enjoyment for me is the discovery and exploration.

Having an arrow point to the next quest directive and that x/y enemy needed to complete the quest is 15 feet away would only ruin the experience.

Questhelper is more like "here's your nearest objective" unless you are on a different continent from your quests. It just gives you an arrow and an estimation on how far you need to go to get to that area. Carbonite is a much bigger offender in the "telling you exactly where to go/what to do" department.

 

[luka]

:lol

 

[kai3345]

I dunno. A part of an mmo's enjoyment for me is the discovery and exploration.

Having an arrow point to the next quest directive and that x/y enemy needed to complete the quest is 15 feet away would only ruin the experience.

Questing is the worst part of an MMO for me.

Its tedious, repetitive and I hate it. And worst of all, most of the time you're doing it alone.

The fun of wow (at least for me) are the instances/raids and the PVP. The stuff that makes you interact and coordinate with other players to survive.

I mean running around killing stuff alone in a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER game seems to me like its defeating the whole purpose of the game.

EDIT: That said, questing in outlands is wayy wore interesting that anything Ive seen in Old World so far.

 

[Blast Processing]

QH doesn't have a configuration panel you can access through the settings menu. You have to type "/qh settings" to change it.

Sure this is correct?

My WOW sub ended yesterday, and I haven't re-upped yet, so I can't go in and see the step-by-step, but if you bring up the map, there should be a button up in the upper right that allows you to mess around with the QH settings, to turn off the arrow and such. Also, hit ESC, and choose options or interface, one of those menus, and there is a tab for add-on settings. There should be something in there, too.

It's worth noting that the Cartographer mod and QH seem to work together some how, and I use both, so I'm not sure what functionality is unique to what mod.

 

[luka]

Sure this is correct?

My WOW sub ended yesterday, and I haven't re-upped yet, so I can't go in and see the step-by-step, but if you bring up the map, there should be a button up in the upper right that allows you to mess around with the QH settings, to turn off the arrow and such. Also, hit ESC, and choose options or interface, one of those menus, and there is a tab for add-on settings. There should be something in there, too.

It's worth noting that the Cartographer mod and QH seem to work together some how, and I use both, so I'm not sure what functionality is unique to what mod.

QH has a tab in the addons menu, as you say, but you can't alter the settings through it.

 

[Shining Sunshine]

Questing is the worst part of an MMO for me.

Its tedious, repetitive and I hate it. And worst of all, most of the time you're doing it alone.

The fun of wow (at least for me) are the instances/raids and the PVP. The stuff that makes you interact and coordinate with other players to survive.

I mean running around killing stuff alone in a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER game seems to me like its defeating the whole purpose of the game.

EDIT: That said, questing in outlands is wayy wore interesting that anything Ive seen in Old World so far.

You are soooo wrong.

Are you saying that it is not tedious or repetitive to stay in one general area and kill the same mob over and over again for 5 levels?

That's other MMOs. This is WoW, and you're never alone because there are always people around. Leveling from 1 to 80 a month ago, I never had a moment to myself for more than five minutes. There is always someone walking by or questing.

 

[kai3345]

You are soooo wrong.

Are you saying that it is not tedious or repetitive to stay in one general area and kill the same mob over and over again for 5 levels?

That's other MMOs. This is WoW, and you're never alone because there are always people around. Leveling from 1 to 80 a month ago, I never had a moment to myself for more than five minutes. There is always someone walking by or questing.

Ok well then Questing is the worst part of WoW. Either way, I don't like it at all.

And someone "walking by" doesnt mean anything. I meant like having extended interaction with them and cooperating with others to complete an objective.

 

[speedpop]

But the choice is there, granted a group of friends has more appeal to do something like that.

I suppose FFIX is the more ideal aspect of what you are talking about though.

 

[luka]

Got to Dalaran the other day..so that's where everyone was hiding. :lol
Borean tundra is kinda bleh compared to howling fjords, but it was worth it just for the axe of frozen death. One more level and I'm off to grizzly hills.

Also have been trying out a bunch of UI mods and finally think I got something that works for me. Having a massive 32" screen is actually somewhat disadvantageous for this game because all the critical info is in opposite corners of the screen and my eyes are constantly darting all over the place. :lol

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Lluka

 

[Barso]

Does anyone play lord of the rings online, how is it compared to WOW?
Which is the better game?

 

[Yoshichan]

Does anyone play lord of the rings online, how is it compared to WOW?
Which is the better game?

My experience with the game was terrible. Sometimes the lag was unbearable. The graphics and music is awesome though.

 

[luka]

Okay, after 2 days of UI tweaking I think I finally settled on something I like. Simple, unobtrusive, and uncluttered.

Phew, now back to the grind.

 

[LogicStep]

What server do you guys play on Himuro/Luka?

 

[luka]

What server do you guys play on Himuro/Luka?

Right now I'm on Burning Legion. That's where the guy who 'referred' me plays. But honestly their guild kind of sucks. They're rarely on in any significant numbers and almost never do raids or anything. They're too few and too spread out. Is there a GAF guild on another server that is fairly active? I'd be willing to transfer.

Got to 74! Getting there. Sure does take a while but at least the quests are fairly interesting. Why is it that level 80s are all assholes who will attack you on sight? :lol A lot of the allys I met in the lower levels would usually just move on if you didn't try anything and I even joked around with a few of them with emotes. The goups here just gank you without a second thought.

Also, I learned that the shadow flickering glitch ATI users get can be fixed by typing /console shadowinstancing 0. Why ATI can't fix this themselves, I have no idea...

More pics because I have nothing else to do with them:

 

[luka]

Oh shi-

First time I've seen him show up.

 

[Deacan]

Two-handed weapons look like tooth picks on female blood elves.

 

[Scrow]

THis is your first time and you're using quest helper?

i'd suggest it to any first timers.

similar functionality should be included with all MMOs by default imo. not exactly an "x marks the spot" type map, but maybe glowing areas so you have a general idea of where to go.

 

[mclem]

i'd suggest it to any first timers.

similar functionality should be included with all MMOs by default imo. not exactly an "x marks the spot" type map, but maybe glowing areas so you have a general idea of where to go.

Usually the quest gives sufficient information in the text - and Blizzard have become considerably better at that in recent years than they were at the start. I'd argue that the 'glowing area' already exists in the text script these days.

For me, personally, having to read and understand the quests helps to immerse me in the world - but of course, there's a very valid alternative which is wanting to play as much of the mechanical game possible without being interrupted by exploration and immersion. Both have merit, but I'd recommend knowing which you want to be at the start and sticking to it...


...but don't be afraid to use wowhead a lot for the 20-60 slog. Once you're out of the start zones - by which I mean the Draenei/Blood Elf ones, because they're by far the best - things get a lot less civilised. Oh, except the remodelled Dustwallow, that's great. Having said that, when revisiting the older areas for my Loremaster achievement I did find that things were nowhere near as bad as I was recalling. Maybe I'm just more in-tune with Blizzard's mindset these days.

 

[Scrow]

Usually the quest gives sufficient information in the text - and Blizzard have become considerably better at that in recent years than they were at the start. I'd argue that the 'glowing area' already exists in the text script these days.

For me, personally, having to read and understand the quests helps to immerse me in the world - but of course, there's a very valid alternative which is wanting to play as much of the mechanical game possible without being interrupted by exploration and immersion. Both have merit, but I'd recommend knowing which you want to be at the start and sticking to it...


...but don't be afraid to use wowhead a lot for the 20-60 slog. Once you're out of the start zones - by which I mean the Draenei/Blood Elf ones, because they're by far the best - things get a lot less civilised. Oh, except the remodelled Dustwallow, that's great. Having said that, when revisiting the older areas for my Loremaster achievement I did find that things were nowhere near as bad as I was recalling. Maybe I'm just more in-tune with Blizzard's mindset these days.

yeah, i'd rather pass on reading text to be honest. just let me look at a map.

as a compromise i'd take quest text that has places, directions, and objectives highlighted with color. So for example.

"From Booty Bay head North-East until you reach the Balia'Mah Ruins and kill 12 Raptors."

That's just a very short example I made up. In an actual quest description it would have more normal text to highlighted text ratio.

 

[Barso]

I am interested in knowing more about the world of warcraft lore but which are are better novels to read?
I am sure most of them are rubbish.

 

[water_wendi]

The reason i wouldnt suggest using QH the first time through is because when using QH you tend to just follow the arrow and not even bother reading the text for the quest. Some good stuff in those quests sometimes.. its a shame if its missed because of the leveling itch. But hey, however anyone wants to play the game.. as long as the game is fun thats the only important thing.

 

[Barso]

I was going to install the QH too but decided against it.
I use the QH in lord of the rings online and you find yourself getting into a habit of "follow the arrow."
I stopped playing lotro soon after that.
I enjoy the exploration of WOW more.

 

[Grampasso]

If I may suggest, don't use Questhelper, it's quite heavy. Instead I think the Tourguide + TomTom addons combo is not only lighter but it works much better. While questhelper will only tell you which quest is nearer to your position on the map, Tourguide will suggest you when to change Inn, when to use your HS and will authomatically avoid you getting quests you won't be able to complete soloing. Plus it won't follow your progress only once you have accepted a quest but even before (aka it well tell you which quests to accept to avoid your quest log to get too much crowded).

And while you're a retri paladin I also suggest you using an addon called Serious Help In Timing (S.H.I.T. :lol). This addon will let you set a spell priorities. When you have a target a little panel on the Interface showing which spell to use based on your set priorities, taking into account abilities in CD and also monitoring Avenging Wrath cd. In the latest updates there is also the possibility to avoid suggesting Consecration if you're under a set % of mana and when to cast Divine Plea IF your under a set % of mana (IE it's useless to use Divine Plea if your mana is nearly full, so it just won't suggest it until you're under the % of mana you set, regardless of spell priorities).

I am interested in knowing more about the world of warcraft lore but which are are better novels to read?
I am sure most of them are rubbish.

There's an entire section on wow website dedicated to the lore and there's pretty much everything you need to know about it in there. The books, for what I know, don't add anything substantial to the lore itself, they just tell in a more extended way what happened.

EDIT: Added the quote

 

[Zerokku]

There's an entire section on wow website dedicated to the lore and there's pretty much everything you need to know about it in there. The books, for what I know, don't add anything substantial to the lore itself, they just tell in a more extended way what happened.

EDIT: Added the quote

www.wowwiki.com is generally the go-to place if you're interested in learning about lore. Like Grampasso said, the books just flesh things out but they don't really add anything new. If you're still interested in some of the books, anything written by Christie Golden is excellent, and anything written written by Richard Knaak will make you want to claw your eyes out and commit ritual cleansing.

I'm thinking of coming back to wow with all this supposed cataclysm info. Must resist...

 

[kai3345]

I hit 60 last night and I started looking through my old screenshots and its weird how my character has changed from 1-60.

*sniff* so many memories....

 

[Zerokku]

*sniff* so many memories....

Fuck you. Seeing all those pictures and I got a huge nostalgia rush from remembering my first time through WoW, and now I'm resubbing.

Spoiler

Not serious about the fuck you, I just thought I was clean D:

 

[luka]

If I may suggest, don't use Questhelper, it's quite heavy. Instead I think the Tourguide + TomTom addons combo is not only lighter but it works much better. While questhelper will only tell you which quest is nearer to your position on the map, Tourguide will suggest you when to change Inn, when to use your HS and will authomatically avoid you getting quests you won't be able to complete soloing. Plus it won't follow your progress only once you have accepted a quest but even before (aka it well tell you which quests to accept to avoid your quest log to get too much crowded).

I'll pass. What I like about QH is that it doesn't tell you what to do every step of the way. :lol
It also gives you (default) options to hide quests that need groups or are beyond your capabilities. Despite QH usually telling me exactly what to do and where to go I have, especially in Northrend, started reading quest text much more thoroughly, as sometimes the directions aren't the most clear and can overlook certain complications, as the quests in Northrend are quite a bit more involved. I don't think I'm really missing anything.

Also, BAM.

EDIT: yes, I'm in winterspring. I've decided to take a short break from questing to make some money and build up my mining.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Lluka

 

[Tamanon]

It's so weird seeing a character select screen with only one character on it, and they're over level 60.:lol

 

[Won]

*sniff* so many memories....

"Human clown" is still one of the better race - class combinations out there!

 

[luka]

Grizzly hills is pretty

Sholazar basin...interesting use of phasing the transports.

70% towards level 77 and I can fly once again!

 

[Bisnic]

I hit 60 last night and I started looking through my old screenshots and its weird how my character has changed from 1-60.

*pics*

*sniff* so many memories....

Looking at these pics, i'm glad i can play at max settings. :lol It sure isn't pretty otherwise. ;(

 

[luka]

yaaaay!

 

[Cathcart]

First time I've seen him show up.

Probably you've been told this but I'm too lazy to read the whole thread so...

If you feel like taking a break from your pally one night I super double ultra triple recommend making yourself a DK and playing through the starter area. It'll only take you 3-4 hours to do the entire thing and it is friggin' awesome. It also ties in really well with the stories you're going to see in the rest of Northrend.

Nice screens, by the way. Amazing the game can still look so nice after five years. Really says a lot for how good Blizzard's artists are.

 

[terithegreat]

God this thread is making me want to start playing again....

 

[luka]

Probably you've been told this but I'm too lazy to read the whole thread so...

If you feel like taking a break from your pally one night I super double ultra triple recommend making yourself a DK and playing through the starter area. It'll only take you 3-4 hours to do the entire thing and it is friggin' awesome. It also ties in really well with the stories you're going to see in the rest of Northrend.

Nice screens, by the way. Amazing the game can still look so nice after five years. Really says a lot for how good Blizzard's artists are.

Yeah, I've heard how great the DK starting chain is. I'll definitely check it out. I don't think I'll be leveling one beyond that though. Everyone and their mothers are DK these days.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Lluka

Total time played: 7 days, 3 hours, 36 minutes, 48 seconds




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