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iTunes is a piece of shit.

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Most appropriate thread title ever. Itunes truly is a damn nightmare of a product. Outside of the OS pretty much all of apples software is a joke.
 
iTunes is ass.

If I jailbreak my touch does it allow me to use the much simpler drag-and-drop method of adding the songs? What I mean is that the computer just treats the device as being able to hold files, so you just drag and drop straight into a folder instead of adding the files to itunes.
 
You know what the worst thing is? Starting Itunes, going to Itunes Store, then starting Mac App store app that sits right next to it on the dock. Working with those two side by side and seeing how similar visually they are, and yet they feel like they come from two different eras in terms of load speed, performance and responsiveness, all on the same hardware.
 
Rapping Granny said:
Long story short, I want a way to transfer my songs without having go through any program,
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This seems more like an issue with iOS rather than iTunes.

I can see the appeal of this, but I wouldn't expect Apple to make it an option unless maybe they get desperate.
 
there's a solution to iTunes' horrible performance on Windows PCs. you must have -

- 4.4ghz quad core latest-generation Intel CPU
- 8GB of RAM
- an SSD drive

now iTunes is roughly as responsive on Windows as it is on a 2009 MBP with vastly inferior specs. thanks Apple!
 
scorcho said:
there's a solution to iTunes' horrible performance on Windows PCs. you must have -

- 4.4ghz quad core latest-generation Intel CPU
- 8GB of RAM
- an SSD drive

now iTunes is roughly as responsive on Windows as it is on a 2009 MBP with vastly inferior specs. thanks Apple!
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Just according to keikaku
 
I use MediaMonkey to sort my mp3s and transfer 'em to my iPod / player-of-choice.

I use WinAmp to listen to mp3s when on the computer.

Bliss.

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I use it on my PC simply because when I get a Macbook for college, it'll be easier to move my library over.

I don't use an iPod though, I have a Droid X, and use the iSyncr app. Works good enough. iTunes updates the play counts if I listened to songs on my phone, but Last.FM doesn't update it's play count, which is just an OCD thing that I don't like. But hey, what are you gonna do.
 
iTunes is the biggest piece of shit EVER

Who ever designed it should be raked over broken glass... naked

Also I own a Mac
 
cornelious said:
I recently replaced my borked HDD. I'm setting everything up again, and I noticed that the name on my itunes account is not my name. It is a girls name who has a Utah phone number, a Florida billing address, and a shipping address in Oklahoma. The weird thing is that there is a CC in the account that is not mine or my wife's. I've just gone through and checked all my CC's and reset all my passwords to EVERYTHING, but I haven't noticed any strange charges. So, that begs the question, how did this CC get on my itunes account? Should I call this chick and tell her?
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so your new hard drive has an iTunes account that:
Doesn't have your name
Doesn't,t have your billing address
Doesn't have your shipping address
Doesn't have your credit card

What makes you think it's YOUR account again? That is, what makes you think it's your account that has been compromised, or that it isn't just an account that was on the drive? Where did you get the new drive from? Did you reformat it?
 
One of the software designers on our board made a comment on it a while back that I thought was interesting (Especially as it pertains to the number of different focus points and how they all competed with each other due to poor design). Think it was LiuKangBakingAPie.
 
Hesemonni said:
I use MediaMonkey to sort my mp3s and transfer 'em to my iPod / player-of-choice.

I use WinAmp to listen to mp3s when on the computer.

Bliss.

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sorry but....damn that looks ugly.
i cant complain about itunes as i have a mac now but back in the days it was pure horror to use it.
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No problems here at all and im using some piece of shit singlecore pc. Still no other mediaplayer that has Genius and smart playlists, so itunes works fine for me.
 
newelly87 said:
Yeah but my mom didn't want my brothers music on her iphone (using his laptop) so i had to go through an individually pick all her songs out and put them on there, when i sync all that all her apps weren't on her phone.. so i had to do it all again.. fucking retarded. Also setting up an itunes account was another fucking drama. Ended up having to use my credit card and now im getting charged for shit and ill never see the money back.
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Create playlist "Mom" (add whatever your mom wants on her iPhone) -> iPhone settings -> Music -> sync playlist "Mom"

easy peezy and I do this on a daily basis to remove and add music to my phone. Drag and drop probably makes more sense but then you don't get awesome stuff like play counts.
 
For music it works okay for me, but apps? OH MY GOD.

Want to transfer previously purchased apps from my ipod touch to the iTunes on my laptop. It transfers the first 10% and stops. I try everything under the sun, disconnect and reconnect, update, reboot, clear warnings, de-authorize and re-authorize, delete apps, read forums, online manuals, tech support sites, still won't work. Who the fuck knows why. A goddamn mystery.

I have 150-some apps needing updates. Click the arrow to go to the update page. "The iTunes store is not available right now." Au contraire, it's very available! I can click on it on the sidebar and browse and purchase anything I like. But the automatic update process? Nothing. Ever. Simply won't work for me anymore. I either have to update apps by going to the product page or on the device itself if it's installed. So convenient.

Managing hundreds of apps is so much fun. Takes literally minutes to scroll through all of those massive 5kb icons! Watercooled 6-core computer can't scroll through a list of 5kb icons without crawling like a 386!

Seriously the worst "major" application in the world right now I'm aware of. Piece of fucking trash. Hate it so much. Flame... flames on the side of my face. Breathing... breathl... heaving breaths.
 
Sharepod. Never go back. I found MediaMonkey alright. It's more for organizing your music library on your computer. In terms of simplicity, effectiveness, and ease of use, it is hard to top Sharepod. It's also standalone so I just keep it stored in the ipod itself!
 
Aren't all these itunes replacements effectively useless now if you have Ipod Touch or Iphone? How are you going to do any app backup, management or purchasing using them?
 
Lord Error said:
Aren't all these itunes replacements effectively useless now if you have Ipod Touch or Iphone? How are you going to do any app backup, management or purchasing using them?
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You could use them to manage your music and keep iTunes usage to a minimum. All I use iTunes now for is the occaisional iPhone backup and to drag and drop music onto it. I do all my app purchases through the phone itself.
 
Fallen_Hero said:
Sharepod. Never go back. I found MediaMonkey alright. It's more for organizing your music library on your computer. In terms of simplicity, effectiveness, and ease of use, it is hard to top Sharepod. It's also standalone so I just keep it stored in the ipod itself!
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I need something like this but for mac. What are you mac people replacing Itunes with?
 
mrkgoo said:
so your new hard drive has an iTunes account that:
Doesn't have your name
Doesn't,t have your billing address
Doesn't have your shipping address
Doesn't have your credit card

What makes you think it's YOUR account again? That is, what makes you think it's your account that has been compromised, or that it isn't just an account that was on the drive? Where did you get the new drive from? Did you reformat it?
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It is a new drive I purchased from Fry's. When I entered my apple ID, which us my primary email account and my password, that is when I saw the name, billing info and CC number. I didn't format before reinstalling windows though.
 
iTunes is such a godsend for those of us that like to sync music. I dont know why some of you cant see the benefits and just outright call it a piece of shit. I make playlists and organize my music, listen to it on my pc, then simply plug in my ipod and I'm good to go. Don't have to find and drag my music into my iPod separately. So much easier.
 
Ashhong said:
iTunes is such a godsend for those of us that like to sync music. I dont know why some of you cant see the benefits and just outright call it a piece of shit. I make playlists and organize my music, listen to it on my pc, then simply plug in my ipod and I'm good to go. Don't have to find and drag my music into my iPod separately. So much easier.
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Don't you have to go through and find songs to setup playlists? How is that really any different than selecting and dropping them on to your iPod? Having nicely organized mp3s in a directory structure goes a long way with making it easier to find what you want and easy to drag and drop. On top of that, it works across the board regardless of the device rather than being stuck at Apple's and iTunes' mercy.
 
Marty Chinn said:
Don't you have to go through and find songs to setup playlists? How is that really any different than selecting and dropping them on to your iPod? Having nicely organized mp3s in a directory structure goes a long way with making it easier to find what you want and easy to drag and drop. On top of that, it works across the board regardless of the device rather than being stuck at Apple's and iTunes' mercy.
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Smart Playlists.
 
numble said:
Smart Playlists.
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Smart playlists only get you so far though and really depends on what rules you're using. If you're trying to be specific with what you want on the iPhone/iPod, a Smart Playlist won't be what you need.
 
Marty Chinn said:
Smart playlists only get you so far though and really depends on what rules you're using. If you're trying to be specific with what you want on the iPhone/iPod, a Smart Playlist won't be what you need.
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Yes, you can also do manual playlist setup in iTunes. But if I want to just set up playlists for "songs from the 80s" or "songs from the 90s," "songs I've rated as 4 stars or above," it saves me a bunch of time. If I have a whole bunch of language lesson podcasts in my library, and just want the last 5 unlistened mp3s to be synced with my device, it will do it automatically.
 
Marty Chinn said:
Don't you have to go through and find songs to setup playlists? How is that really any different than selecting and dropping them on to your iPod? Having nicely organized mp3s in a directory structure goes a long way with making it easier to find what you want and easy to drag and drop. On top of that, it works across the board regardless of the device rather than being stuck at Apple's and iTunes' mercy.
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I dont use smart playlist like someone else. But, I put in my music into the iTunes library when I want to listen to it, instead of say putting it into Winamp. I then just plug in my ipod and it all syncs. It's only 1 step vs 2 steps if I was using Winamp or something else. I have my music nicely organized in my regular folders. However it would be a pain if I had to go through a bunch of music later to decide what to drag and drop into iTunes.

The last point doesnt really affect me so I cant say much since I only have Apple devices. Maybe I dont do enough fancy stuff on it or something, but I havent experienced anything to complain about. It plays music, allows me to make multiple playlists, and allows easy tag editing. Dont need anything else
 
numble said:
Yes, you can also do manual playlist setup in iTunes. But if I want to just set up playlists for "songs from the 80s" or "songs from the 90s," "songs I've rated as 4 stars or above," it saves me a bunch of time. If I have a whole bunch of language lesson podcasts in my library, and just want the last 5 unlistened mp3s to be synced with my device, it will do it automatically.
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And I'm just saying doing a manual playlist really is no different than just selecting what you want and dragging and dropping on to your iPhone/iPod. It's a very similar labor process.

With Podcasts, I unfortunately can't live within the scope of relying on what was listened to and what wasn't because I listen to podcasts all over the place and not everything keeps things sync'd easily. For example, at work I either listen on the computer I'm using or my iPhone. In the car I tend to listen to them from my old iPhone 3G that has become pretty much an iPod. Around the house, I'll listen on either a Squeezebox or XBMC or even on the Apple TV2. Nothing keeps all that in sync so I just don't even bother relying on that and just know what I have and haven't listened to when I drop things on to my phone or the car.

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Ashhong said:
I dont use smart playlist like someone else. But, I put in my music into the iTunes library when I want to listen to it, instead of say putting it into Winamp. I then just plug in my ipod and it all syncs. It's only 1 step vs 2 steps if I was using Winamp or something else. I have my music nicely organized in my regular folders. However it would be a pain if I had to go through a bunch of music later to decide what to drag and drop into iTunes.

The last point doesnt really affect me so I cant say much since I only have Apple devices. Maybe I dont do enough fancy stuff on it or something, but I havent experienced anything to complain about. It plays music, allows me to make multiple playlists, and allows easy tag editing. Dont need anything else
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Wait, do you just sync everything? I certainly don't because everything wouldn't fit, so I selectively go through and put what I want. I don't change music often, but I do change it sometimes so it's not so painful to go and just remove what I want or drag and drop something new on it since changes tend to be small.

I'm sure iTunes is much better than it used to be but from iTunes messing up my library organization, yes I know there are settings to prevent that, to there being issues from my library being on the network, and on top of being slow and bloated, I just got used to keeping iTunes usage to a complete minimum because my home network extends beyond the limitations of an Apple ecosystem.
 
Ever since I switched back to an iPhone I've realized how terrible iTunes is. It's really, really bad. Maybe it's just sort of bad for playing music. But when you plug in that iPhone to sync or manage data it goes batshit insane and will freeze or uberlag for no reason.

Plus I made the mistake of doing the free The Cape download but stopped it and opted to stream instead. The Cape reappears in my active downloads randomly everyday and slows down my connection since it's a huge file. I've deleted it, paused it, paused then deleted, it keeps coming back.

I hate it. I hate it so much.
 
Marty Chinn said:
Wait, do you just sync everything? I certainly don't because everything wouldn't fit, so I selectively go through and put what I want. I don't change music often, but I do change it sometimes so it's not so painful to go and just remove what I want or drag and drop something new on it since changes tend to be small.

I'm sure iTunes is much better than it used to be but from iTunes messing up my library organization, yes I know there are settings to prevent that, to there being issues from my library being on the network, and on top of being slow and bloated, I just got used to keeping iTunes usage to a complete minimum because my home network extends beyond the limitations of an Apple ecosystem.
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Indeed I do sync everything. Maybe thats why its so easy for me? I guess it could be difficult in your scenario, though you could just do that with the "manual mode" cant you?
 
Marty Chinn said:
And I'm just saying doing a manual playlist really is no different than just selecting what you want and dragging and dropping on to your iPhone/iPod. It's a very similar labor process.
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I was describing my use of Smart Playlists. It's not very labor intensive at all.
 
I've probably said it before in this thread, but I am baffled by complaints about iTunes being slow on Windows. It's fast as hell on my very low end Windows 7 laptop (Athlon II X2 2.0 GHz processor, 4GB RAM) with 6,000 songs, a bunch of music videos, and several movie digital copies.

JackEtc said:
I use it on my PC simply because when I get a Macbook for college, it'll be easier to move my library over.

I don't use an iPod though, I have a Droid X, and use the iSyncr app. Works good enough. iTunes updates the play counts if I listened to songs on my phone, but Last.FM doesn't update it's play count, which is just an OCD thing that I don't like. But hey, what are you gonna do.
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There are several Last.FM apps for Android that will scrobble your music, including a great official one.
 
I don't buy music but in terms of TV shows and stuff that i do buy i prefer amazons market, itunes is just shitty in general i refuse to install that POS on my laptop.
 
Rapping Granny said:
God damn, I was in a hurry to catch the bus, but had only a couple of minutes to add a song or two. Open up iTunes for the first time in a month on my windows 7 pc, it had to update then Had to restart, then needed to open up the iTunes home page for some fucking reason, taking up a good chunk of time, then had to sync the fucking iPod and transfer everything from the music library and everything from the iPod into the fucking computer without asking my permission, then I tried to cancel it which froze the fucking program and just ejected the iPod and said fuck it.

Long story short, I want a way to transfer my songs without having go through any program, ie windows explorer style where I drag and drop my files into the folder and be done with it, I don't want any programs and any of that shit where I have add crap to my library then transfer them to the iPod. I have winamp but that thing is hard to look at, the ui is shit, also have copytrans manager but has the same problems as iTunes where I have to sync shit.
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