viewtifulsub
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Sounds like a major issue to me.Gouty said:
Both foobar2k and winamp for me are ready to go once I open them.
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iTunes is a piece of shit.
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Both foobar2k and winamp for me are ready to go once I open them.
aMarkedMan
Banned
I'm sorry if this has been asked and answered in the thread already but is there any reason why only some songs from an album will be transferring from an itunes library to an ipod?
It's my wifes ipod which is having issues (I don't even own one) and from what I can tell all of her music has been put in to a C:/users/username/music/itunes folder by itunes itself and yet it's a bit hit or miss as to which songs will transfer across. I've reformatted her ipod and also deleted any duplicate files on the PC.
It's my wifes ipod which is having issues (I don't even own one) and from what I can tell all of her music has been put in to a C:/users/username/music/itunes folder by itunes itself and yet it's a bit hit or miss as to which songs will transfer across. I've reformatted her ipod and also deleted any duplicate files on the PC.
Never touched much of it as I don't own an ipod.
But one day I installed it to transfer some videos to a friends ipod. That itunes piece of shit had transferred some images from my images directory without me asking, a chance it was nothing compromising.
My face when my friend asked me why did I transfer images to his ipod.
Uninstalled it and said fuck it.
But one day I installed it to transfer some videos to a friends ipod. That itunes piece of shit had transferred some images from my images directory without me asking, a chance it was nothing compromising.
My face when my friend asked me why did I transfer images to his ipod.
Uninstalled it and said fuck it.
Dreams-Visions
Member
ah. so you didn't know how to use the application and it did something unexpected. Something that happens with applications you've really never used before. And the proper response was to uninstall?Shoogoo said:
only at GAF.
The Lamonster
Member
I found how to import libraries, except none of the locations I found match what I used to have. Is there any way to search the .xml files for the actual name of the playlist? I only really care about restoring just this one playlist.hirokazu said:
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Shoogoo said:
iTunes wants to manage your media. When you add media to it, it moves it to its own folder structure. If you don't want to do this, turn that option off. The issue is that you're looking at the iPod as a USB storage device and iTunes a sync application, but iTunes is by default not just a sync application, it's a media manager.
There's pretty good arguments for the merits of both (as one example using just music, if you just have one random MP3 you want to check out, you probably want a player rather than a manager, but if you have a big wad of meticulously tagged MP3s, you probably want a manager) so if you don't like the idea, that's cool, but the actual issue you had came up because you didn't tell the program that you wanted it to behave the way you did.
That's sort of iTunes' fault for not making it clear to you, and sort of your fault for making assumptions on the functionality.
It's not the user's fault that some obnoxious, pushy piece of software oversteps its boundaries.
At what point does the user get a pass? It's iTunes, not iPhotos. He should have predicted that this music focused software would invite itself to the photos, then quietly start transferring them to an iPod?
No, not the user's fault. iTunes fault, entirely.
This type of behavior is all over iTunes. I need a Scumbag Steve macro that reads, "Prompt you to update iTunes... auto check box to install Safari."
At what point does the user get a pass? It's iTunes, not iPhotos. He should have predicted that this music focused software would invite itself to the photos, then quietly start transferring them to an iPod?
No, not the user's fault. iTunes fault, entirely.
This type of behavior is all over iTunes. I need a Scumbag Steve macro that reads, "Prompt you to update iTunes... auto check box to install Safari."
Oracle Dragon
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I don't mind so much that iTunes on Windows is so clunky, the part I hate is that you are locked into it. I used Winamp with my old iPod for years, and loved it. Then I got an iPhone, suddenly I find I need iTunes.
How crappy is the performance? Well, I made an OSX virtual machine in VirtualBox and iTunes performs BETTER than the Windows version! Truly, a sad state of affairs for Windows iTunes.
How crappy is the performance? Well, I made an OSX virtual machine in VirtualBox and iTunes performs BETTER than the Windows version! Truly, a sad state of affairs for Windows iTunes.
I disagree with it being a 50/50 type of blame (if that's what you're saying). Preferably it should be off by default, but at the very least they can give you an introductory config for these things when you first start the programStumpokapow said:
Programs do this shit all the time, just recently I started using Thunderbird and a few weeks later I found out all my mail from hotmail was just erased without notifying me. Turns out I had to go into the settings and manually turn it off, I don't see any reason why they'd have it on by default.
The Lamonster
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Searched all hard drives for all iTunes Music Library.xml files and tried them all. None of them had the playlist I was looking for. I guess I'm just fucked! Thanks iTunes! I only spent hours and hours creating that playlist.The Lamonster said:
Never "updating" this fucking piece of shit software ever again.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Forsete
Member
Agree. Shitty software all around, and Quicktime is equally bad. Pay for a full screen feature? You have to be shitting me. Not to mention its a buggy POS and extremely slow. If I want to watch a trailer on Apple/Trailers I have to press the stupid 720p button 4 or 5 times before QT launches.
One other thing that bothers me, why does Apple Update recommend that I update "Safari" when its not even installed?
Of my 3 PCs, 2 are Apple free.. I have to keep iTunes on one because of my iPhone. :/
One other thing that bothers me, why does Apple Update recommend that I update "Safari" when its not even installed?
Of my 3 PCs, 2 are Apple free.. I have to keep iTunes on one because of my iPhone. :/
Macho Madness
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I can do full screen without paying. Did you upgrade to QuickTime X?Forsete said:
Angelus Errare
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My main issues with iTunes
1. Bloated as six fucks
2. Unnecessary services (iTuneshelper, requires quicktime Mobile...I don't own an iPhone and probably never will until Apple learns wtf the internet is.)
Apple needs to make an iTunes light that ONLY handles music and none of this other shit they're trying to shoehorn into their archaic program.
With that said, I use a custom made "lite" version of itunes so the aforementioned services don't run on my PC. But the app itself is still bloated as hell, I have 8GB on my PC and I find it very hilarious that iTunes apparently needs 85-100MB to play a song....like fucking really?! Shit man, Pro Tools uses less...and it CREATES music.
1. Bloated as six fucks
2. Unnecessary services (iTuneshelper, requires quicktime Mobile...I don't own an iPhone and probably never will until Apple learns wtf the internet is.)
Apple needs to make an iTunes light that ONLY handles music and none of this other shit they're trying to shoehorn into their archaic program.
With that said, I use a custom made "lite" version of itunes so the aforementioned services don't run on my PC. But the app itself is still bloated as hell, I have 8GB on my PC and I find it very hilarious that iTunes apparently needs 85-100MB to play a song....like fucking really?! Shit man, Pro Tools uses less...and it CREATES music.
WickedCobra03
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That is my main problem with iTunes, it is bloated as all hell.Angelus Errare said:
Like you said, make it a music manager / music player and nothing else. Let it sync with the Ipod/iPhone/iPad for music only (i guess you can throw videos in there as well). But get rid of that crap service of Ping that no one uses, Genius Sidebar I used once (to turn it off). Get rid of Apps and Books management, and DJ is not amazing either. Anyone use that Coverflow feature... yeah, neither do I.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I wouldn't mind an application that was basically just to access the iTunes store to buy music, as I don't give a shit about the media player stuff in iTunes for Windows.
Always use manual media management on your devices.
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1535
Otherwise you'll have to resync the library each time you use it.
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1535
Otherwise you'll have to resync the library each time you use it.
Macho Madness
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Or live in the 21st century. Manual management is a pain.mt1200 said:
Probably been said a bunch of times in the thread, but yup, THIS.LQX said:
I don't even understand what's supposed to happen when you sync an iPhone/iPod with a library larger than its capacity. Does iTunes cram in whatever it can, pick songs/albums at random? Fuck synching.
All that said, yeah, iTunes still feels poorly optimized and laggy even on a MacBook Pro that isn't even a year old.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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Why is it so fucking hard to install foobar skins? goddamn
Magnus said:
and again you want to sync playlists not manually manage. If you rate a song on your iPod 5 stars don't you want your collection to reflect that change? If you've listened to the Fleet Foxes new LP 13 times in the last week don't you want to know that? I guess I'm weird.
brotkasten
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When I installed iTunes few weeks ago, I didn't get the complains. Everything was fairly quick and smooth. Few minutes later I added my music collection. Damn ...
And yes, compared to Zune it's really complicated.
And yes, compared to Zune it's really complicated.
I don't get all the iTunes hate, and I use it on Windows. About a month ago I got an iPod Touch (wanted an MP3 player and was interested in the huge app library) and was dreading having to use iTunes cause of all the crap it gets. I find it works pretty nicely and I like how easy it is to organize my songs/podcasts and make sure they're all tagged correctly. But maybe it seems so lag-free because my media library is no where near the 100gigs of music some people talk about having.
My only complaint is that the iTunes store pages take just long enough to load that it gets annoying and I'd rather just use the store directly on the iPod whenever I can.
My only complaint is that the iTunes store pages take just long enough to load that it gets annoying and I'd rather just use the store directly on the iPod whenever I can.
Mama Robotnik
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Maybe I'm an idiot but when I first got my iPhone, I had my first experience with iTunes and couldn't figure out what the fuck was going on.
All I wanted to do was copy my MP3s over to the iPhone, just like my cheap old USB MP3 player would let me. Took forty minutes of going through different options to even begin to figure it out. I remember having to create something called a playlist, and just copying all my music into that one list and something called syncing.
I don't use it now.
Why don't Apple just let you drag and drop files into the device? Or at least provide an option for idiots such as myself to take a simple approach to managing files?
All I wanted to do was copy my MP3s over to the iPhone, just like my cheap old USB MP3 player would let me. Took forty minutes of going through different options to even begin to figure it out. I remember having to create something called a playlist, and just copying all my music into that one list and something called syncing.
I don't use it now.
Why don't Apple just let you drag and drop files into the device? Or at least provide an option for idiots such as myself to take a simple approach to managing files?
Kong Fisso
Banned
Status: iTunes (for Windows) still sucks.
I use it to sync my ipod nano, since Winamp won't detect it for some reason.
However, iTunes has this bug, where it will start again instantly everytime i close it down. This keeps happening, even though i have tried reinstalling iTunes, formatted my computer (several times) and use the newest version of iTunes.
Press the close-button -> wait 2 seconds -> iTunes starts again.
It's annoying as fuck. I have no plug-ins / add-ons/ whatever installed and I have disabled several features after googling the problem.
But no matter what I do, this shit keeps happening.
I use it to sync my ipod nano, since Winamp won't detect it for some reason.
However, iTunes has this bug, where it will start again instantly everytime i close it down. This keeps happening, even though i have tried reinstalling iTunes, formatted my computer (several times) and use the newest version of iTunes.
Press the close-button -> wait 2 seconds -> iTunes starts again.
It's annoying as fuck. I have no plug-ins / add-ons/ whatever installed and I have disabled several features after googling the problem.
But no matter what I do, this shit keeps happening.
Runs like shit for me most of the time on a Vista laptop.
About 40% of the time when I open itunes, songs won't play when I click on them. The title of the song will appear in the now playing area, but it will stay stuck at 0 seconds. Nothing works at this point except to close itunes and try again. I've had it happen 2-3x in a row, although usually reopening the program once is enough.
It's annoying as hell. I don't remember this ever happening when I used a Mac.
Never had syncing problems though. Change everything to manual, and that should do it. Doing that worked for me anyway. Having over 100 GB of music and a 30 GB ipod makes that a necessity, I think.
About 40% of the time when I open itunes, songs won't play when I click on them. The title of the song will appear in the now playing area, but it will stay stuck at 0 seconds. Nothing works at this point except to close itunes and try again. I've had it happen 2-3x in a row, although usually reopening the program once is enough.
It's annoying as hell. I don't remember this ever happening when I used a Mac.
Never had syncing problems though. Change everything to manual, and that should do it. Doing that worked for me anyway. Having over 100 GB of music and a 30 GB ipod makes that a necessity, I think.
See I don't understand the problems some of you are experiencing. Obviously double clicking a song and not getting playback of audio is an ISSUE and isn't what the programmers intended. If iTunes keeps opening after you close it maybe you need to reinstall because I've never had that issue. Maybe there's something wrong with your USB cable/hub and you've got "turn on iTunes when this iPod is connected" checked.
The Friendly Monster
Member
Just google reader.Old Lace said:
Kong Fisso
Banned
What is there not to understand?see5harp said:
Like I said, I have reinstalled iTunes and even reformatted the computer, and the latter I don't feel like doing again, just because iTunes won't work properly.
iTunes will restart when the ipod/cable is not connected.
And like i said (again) I have tried disabling settings like that after googling the bug (or is it an issue?)
Dreams-Visions
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My library is 110 gigs. iTunes takes about 13 seconds to open, assuming it hasn't been opened since the last reboot. Otherwise, it opens in less than 5.sykoex said:
As for the rest of the complaints, it just seems people are unwilling to try to learn a new system. They want it to behave like other software they've used and when it doesn't they either get frustrated or quit. kinda sad really. I've found that it's fantastic if you're willing to organize (metatag) your music. It's as good as Foobar, while making life easier with iOS devices.
I too remember being frustrated with it back when I was using WMP principally as my music player. Then I actually learned how to use it and get what I wanted out of it. I made sure every one of my songs had a single Artist, Album title and genre. I grabbed the artwork. It's been perfect ever since, but I had to put the effort in. It wasn't iTunes fault many of the albums had no metadata tagged to them or lacked album art.
Now then, it still doesn't sound as good as Foobar with the right plug-ins, but it's fine for all but the most sensitive of ears and gear. For those willing to put in a little time and learn how to really use iTunes, there's a very rewarding and exceedingly fast application waiting to be used. And for those wondering, no iTunes will never be broken into multiple applications. They like that a central application gets people to the various music/movie/apps/book stores. As you upgrade your computer over time, I'd assume your complaints about how fast or slow it starts up will subside.
Dreams-Visions
Member
please post specs of your computer. also, I assume all the other music players on your computer function properly?Kong Fisso said:
Kong Fisso
Banned
Yes, WMP works properly. VLC also. I installed Winamp, but it won't detect my ipod, so I just uinstalled it.Dreams-Visions said:
Specs are (Toshiba a100 series):
2 gb ram
2 ghz core2duo (t7200, i believe)
ATI x1600
Windows XP
edit: Quicktime works as well.
angelkimne
Member
Just for my own amusement and to further the point (okay, it's mostly for my own amusement);Sent said:
WickedCobra03
Member
I use something like Winamp 5.5 for podcasts and such. Just get the RSS links or feed links, copy them into Winamp, and then you can set preferences (how many podcasts to keep, when to update, how to update... ect).Old Lace said:
Vipershark
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I have a laptop off to the side specifically for syncing my iPod.
I'd never install iTunes on my main computer.
For listening to music, I use foobar2k.
I'd never install iTunes on my main computer.
For listening to music, I use foobar2k.
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