I have a Nexus 6p with the exact same issue starting to happen (battery dies at 30%). I'm thinking about switching to iPhone but project fi is too good, it's hard to make the switch. Most of my data usage is over WiFi so I typically pay only 25 dollars a month for service. Might just hold out for pixel 2xl since that is supposed to be made by LG. Can get a phone on par with the iPhone and keep my project fi service. Plus I can't think of any reason I need to be on the Apple ecosystem versus Android. Or that there is anything I can do on iPhone that I can't on Android.
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I've owned 5 Android phones in 5 years. I'm probably switching to iPhone.
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My biggest frustration with android phones (and tablets) is often the issues don't become known until around a year later, too late for me because I already bought it based on great reviews.
Just look at this thread and how ,any posts are saying the 6p is a piece of shit. But when it was released the reviews for it were fantastic, not just in android enthusiast groups but most tech press as well. Then 6-12 months later everyone starts realizing it has this fatal flaw after we all bought it based on the reviews.
I had a first gen nexus 7, amazing reviews...a year later...uh oh, the memory is completely screwed up and the more you use it the slower it will get.
I've been android user since like 2008 or 2009 I think, but this stuff drives me crazy.
Just look at this thread and how ,any posts are saying the 6p is a piece of shit. But when it was released the reviews for it were fantastic, not just in android enthusiast groups but most tech press as well. Then 6-12 months later everyone starts realizing it has this fatal flaw after we all bought it based on the reviews.
I had a first gen nexus 7, amazing reviews...a year later...uh oh, the memory is completely screwed up and the more you use it the slower it will get.
I've been android user since like 2008 or 2009 I think, but this stuff drives me crazy.
Rktk
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I switched to iOS last week because my Nexus 6P decided to suicide. For Android I would never consider anything other than a Pixel and my experience with my first 6P having the battery drain issue and now the replacement bootlooping meant I looked elsewhere.
iOS is fine, notifications are hot garbage but overall it's nearly as functional and I think the animations are a little more pleasing. The way iOS can hold more apps in memory is one of the things I love. Hardware wise the home button is archaic you will certainly miss a dedicated back button and LCD panels don't cut it.
I only went iOS because a 6S 128GB was readily available for cheap, if I was considering buying full price I would wait until next year when the standard iPhone (and not the $1000 model) get with the times of OLED and have rid of the home button.
iOS is fine, notifications are hot garbage but overall it's nearly as functional and I think the animations are a little more pleasing. The way iOS can hold more apps in memory is one of the things I love. Hardware wise the home button is archaic you will certainly miss a dedicated back button and LCD panels don't cut it.
I only went iOS because a 6S 128GB was readily available for cheap, if I was considering buying full price I would wait until next year when the standard iPhone (and not the $1000 model) get with the times of OLED and have rid of the home button.
FaintDeftone
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My very first smart phone was an HTC Inspire. After about a year of using it, I noticed the phone started to get extremely slow and the battery life diminished greatly. I also owned an iPod Touch at this time and wanted to carry around one device instead of two. I switched to an iPhone 4S and was very happy.
When the Galaxy S5 dropped, I started to become more interested in Android again. I missed the customization. The platform started to support many more apps and features than it did back when I had an HTC Inspire. I thought giving Android another shot would be a good idea so I traded in my 4S for a Galaxy S5.
Again, after about a year of owning it, the battery life started to suck again and my phone was getting super slow. I was growing frustrated with new Android releases having a high chance of never coming to my phone. I missed being able to get a new OS update as soon as it dropped. So I got rid of my S5 and bought an iPhone 6S Plus at release and have been using that since.
I'm not going to lie, the Note 8 looks extremely slick. However, I refuse to fall into that trap again. After having two Android phones drop in performance after a year of use and Google STILL allows this fragmented ecosystem of hoping and praying that your phone gets a new Android version pushed to it, I just don't want to go back to that again. I know with my 6S Plus, I'm guaranteed at least another two years of full updates from Apple before I have to start worrying about it getting no support.
Until Google gets their shit together and forces phone manufacturers and carriers to support new Android versions, I'm sticking with iPhone.
When the Galaxy S5 dropped, I started to become more interested in Android again. I missed the customization. The platform started to support many more apps and features than it did back when I had an HTC Inspire. I thought giving Android another shot would be a good idea so I traded in my 4S for a Galaxy S5.
Again, after about a year of owning it, the battery life started to suck again and my phone was getting super slow. I was growing frustrated with new Android releases having a high chance of never coming to my phone. I missed being able to get a new OS update as soon as it dropped. So I got rid of my S5 and bought an iPhone 6S Plus at release and have been using that since.
I'm not going to lie, the Note 8 looks extremely slick. However, I refuse to fall into that trap again. After having two Android phones drop in performance after a year of use and Google STILL allows this fragmented ecosystem of hoping and praying that your phone gets a new Android version pushed to it, I just don't want to go back to that again. I know with my 6S Plus, I'm guaranteed at least another two years of full updates from Apple before I have to start worrying about it getting no support.
Until Google gets their shit together and forces phone manufacturers and carriers to support new Android versions, I'm sticking with iPhone.
Thanks for letting me know not to take your posts seriously.
Do you understand that Samsung has manufactured the most smartphones in the entire world in terms of volume between high and low end?
Was batteries catching fire an issue before this incident? What about after?
Out of the 20 millions that were sold, what was the estimated amount of the ones that caught on fire? And did you read what Samsung concluded was the cause and what they did to address it?
Once you start thinking about these questions you'll understand how useless your post.
I've never had any of my iPhones die at 30%. They gotta get to 2% at least (I think more like 1). And my 6's battery is still going strong. My husband had one iPhone that started having issues (he abuses the shit out of his) and I think that was after 4 years when he finally caved when the SE came out (he didn't want a big phone).
Jigolo
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I did this last year. I was tired of the monthly security updates, the inconsistent battery life. That's not to say Android as a mobile platform isn't great it's just some of that jank needs to be taken care of. The problem is that Android at its core wasn't built right as an updatable mobile is which is why we need fuschia that's built from the ground up for this to take over
This has been my experience as well. I've had Android phones since the G1. My S6 was great for about ~9mos, but has been a frustrating device to use otherwise. I'm very much looking forward to the announcement today...
Yep, yep. Everyone raving about the S8 nearly gets me to reconsider bailing on Android, but then I remember.
Did you try factory resetting?
-Pyromaniac-
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I owned like 10 android phones in a span of a few years (I'm addicted + I work in telecom) and some iPhones sprinkled in between. I still feel an allure when it comes to all new tech but I've reached that point in my life where I pretty much stay with iPhone and appreciate the things it does well and miss those things more than what I appreciated about android, as some of those flaws did not make up for it.
To each their own.
To each their own.
I had a Nexus 5 and now a Oneplus 3T.
Never had big issues with battery nor speed of these phones... and are not the most expensive out there. 3T is a monster actually, I also use the nav withuot charging it during the day....
EDIT2: for info, I upgraded just to have a new better phone, but it was working still great the Nexus 5, no problems at all. The battery was way worse than the 3T, but it's another generation... not because it got worse over time.
My wife had a Samsung S6 -> 2 years and battery died
Then a S7 -> overheat and battery not so good...
Now Huawei P10, and for now has a way better battery duration
iPhone my father last for days but he uses it just for calls and nothing else... yes I know...
iPhone of my friend -> never be happy with battery, changed last year with an android (I don't remember now which one), says he will never go back to iphone
Talking just on the prespective of battery life.
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Let me add one thing. I know people that charge their phones in many ways... cars, not original charger, .... they always complain that all the phones that buy are broken... so just to note that experience users have may vary also depending on how they are aware of what they do.
Never had big issues with battery nor speed of these phones... and are not the most expensive out there. 3T is a monster actually, I also use the nav withuot charging it during the day....
EDIT2: for info, I upgraded just to have a new better phone, but it was working still great the Nexus 5, no problems at all. The battery was way worse than the 3T, but it's another generation... not because it got worse over time.
My wife had a Samsung S6 -> 2 years and battery died
Then a S7 -> overheat and battery not so good...
Now Huawei P10, and for now has a way better battery duration
iPhone my father last for days but he uses it just for calls and nothing else... yes I know...
iPhone of my friend -> never be happy with battery, changed last year with an android (I don't remember now which one), says he will never go back to iphone
Talking just on the prespective of battery life.
EDIT:
Let me add one thing. I know people that charge their phones in many ways... cars, not original charger, .... they always complain that all the phones that buy are broken... so just to note that experience users have may vary also depending on how they are aware of what they do.
I guess the next iOS update will make battery saver mode even better. One thing you shouldnt do with iphone is use the big box power chargers, the higher wattage ones. A year later, my battery is fuuucked up.
Besides that I've been 100% happy with iPhone but all I do is use safari, snapchat and discord... the last two are battery killers and my phone does fine with em.
Besides that I've been 100% happy with iPhone but all I do is use safari, snapchat and discord... the last two are battery killers and my phone does fine with em.
Nexus 6P was legit terrible. I traded it in for the Pixel XL, which is a legit amazing phone. In between the Pixel and the Nexus, I had an iPhone for a couple of days. But I couldn't adjust. My life it too tied to Google now and Siri is really dumb.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Eh it's all anecdotes ITT really.
Android is fine iOS is fine, I'm on my 3rd android phone in 4 years or but that's with 1 one of them having been stolen.
I retired my LG G2 when the microphone stopped working and the touchscreen was starting to be unresponsive in areas that was after 3 years of heavy use and no protective anything.
Android is fine iOS is fine, I'm on my 3rd android phone in 4 years or but that's with 1 one of them having been stolen.
I retired my LG G2 when the microphone stopped working and the touchscreen was starting to be unresponsive in areas that was after 3 years of heavy use and no protective anything.
I'm in the same boat. I've owned an iPhone 4, Galaxy S3, Nexus 4, iPhone 6 Plus, and Galaxy S7 Edge.
My Android phones have been nothing but trouble. Super unstable, and hardware that doesn't last. My Nexus 4 lasted a year befote touch stopped working. My S7 Edge has burn in and now a permanent pink line running down the side of my screen, among many other issues.
As much as I dislike Apple, I'll be going back to iPhone once my contract runs up.
My Android phones have been nothing but trouble. Super unstable, and hardware that doesn't last. My Nexus 4 lasted a year befote touch stopped working. My S7 Edge has burn in and now a permanent pink line running down the side of my screen, among many other issues.
As much as I dislike Apple, I'll be going back to iPhone once my contract runs up.
Rktk
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You were expecting something else?
You aren't ever going to be happy with a phone that has a hardware defect. Ever. Everyone always switches devices trying to run from them, and I understand it, but its still true.
If you get an iPhone and it has a hardware defect and dies at 30% on you just the same, just remember its not the OS itself that's out to get you; you just got a bad device. Exchange and move on.
If you get an iPhone and it has a hardware defect and dies at 30% on you just the same, just remember its not the OS itself that's out to get you; you just got a bad device. Exchange and move on.
RoninChaos
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I've owned both. I used to sell both. The biggest difference between the two is software stability (no third party shit junking up your phone) and because apple programs their OS for a specific set of phones. With android OS it's like the Wild West, every phone is different and it seems like some of these phone manufacturers don't know how to optimize the OS.
Apple's support is infinitely better than any android provider on the market. If you have problems and you're near an Apple Store you can get your problem solved in person rather than dealing with shifty warranty support.
Apple's support is infinitely better than any android provider on the market. If you have problems and you're near an Apple Store you can get your problem solved in person rather than dealing with shifty warranty support.
SugarDaddy
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I had horrible battery problems on every iPhone I've owned after about a year. Not saying you will just saying it's a problem on both sides
SomewhatGroovy
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My Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge just fell apart. As in, the heat "resistant" glue holding the back cover on has come undone , causing heat to emit from the phone and the battery to drop dead. Samsung wants to charge me close to a third of the cost of the phone to repair it.
BladeoftheImmortal
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My xiaomi Note pro really sucks at battery life. Although I do have the Google apps on it when it isn't really supported and I have had it for about 2 years now. So I guess it's understandable. I was one of the first quadHD(or whatever the fuck they call it above 1080p phones) and has 4gb of RAM even back in 2015. So it definitely still hums along just fine. Only thing I hate is having to always charge the damn thing when out and about.
Edit: this is with batter saver on, btw.
Edit: this is with batter saver on, btw.
Yep. I've reset it a handful of times over the past 2 years. Makes it usable and not frustrating for about a week or two then it's back to the same sluggish behavior and bad battery.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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you should test a Note, op.
I've owned 2 Android phones in 5 years. I'm definitely not switching to iPhone.
The first one is perfectly usable, no problems whatsoever. I just decided to upgrade.
I've tried iPhones from friends and family. Not touching that closed source, overpriced, inflexible, jack-less propietary crap with a ten foot pole even if someone gifted it to me and I'm 100% serious. I'd just trade it for a powerful Android.
The first one is perfectly usable, no problems whatsoever. I just decided to upgrade.
I've tried iPhones from friends and family. Not touching that closed source, overpriced, inflexible, jack-less propietary crap with a ten foot pole even if someone gifted it to me and I'm 100% serious. I'd just trade it for a powerful Android.
bemusedchunk
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in this thread: nothing but anecdotal evidence.
and thats all you'll find op - better off just trying both yourself and seeing which one you like best.
and thats all you'll find op - better off just trying both yourself and seeing which one you like best.
Android O is basically a life saver for the 6P especially for battery life unless you have one of the faulty batteries that shuts off early. I'm getting about 6 hours SoT and 16 hours total with pretty heavy usage.
ISee
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I'm using android phones as my daily companion and an iPad for relaxed couch/TV surfing and facetime (everybody in my family has one Apple device for facetime...)
My current iPad is now 1.5 years old and the battery is already dying (4 hours of heavy usesge, top), the display has an ugly yellow dot and that thing disconnects from my router all the time (no matter what kind of fix I try). Accessing and managing files/data is a pain on the iPad. I am not even allowed to plug the thing into my PC and to drag and drop pictures from/to my PC without having to use Apple software.
Android has is flaws. But I can do and use an android device however I want and I can access and manage my files however I want. I can plug my phone into any PC and access the data on it like on a usb drive. That's a feature I am not willing to give up.
OP if you don't mind the iOS limitations, sure get an iPhone. But don't expect wonders. They also have their hardware and software flaws.
My current iPad is now 1.5 years old and the battery is already dying (4 hours of heavy usesge, top), the display has an ugly yellow dot and that thing disconnects from my router all the time (no matter what kind of fix I try). Accessing and managing files/data is a pain on the iPad. I am not even allowed to plug the thing into my PC and to drag and drop pictures from/to my PC without having to use Apple software.
Android has is flaws. But I can do and use an android device however I want and I can access and manage my files however I want. I can plug my phone into any PC and access the data on it like on a usb drive. That's a feature I am not willing to give up.
OP if you don't mind the iOS limitations, sure get an iPhone. But don't expect wonders. They also have their hardware and software flaws.
Goldenmoney
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I've owned three smartphones in my life. The first was a motorola droid phone that lasted me 1 year. The second was the iPhone 4 that lasted 4 years, and now my current iPhone 6 plus has lasted 3 years. I've been very happy with Apple and don't have any reason to ever consider Android phones again.
One Eyed Willy
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I was an Android lifer, and I switched to iPhone and am not looking back.
Damn. I never understand how this happens. I've never experienced this on any Android phone I've owned. I have a friend who still has a S6 and his battery drain does suck, but his device is still fast. The S6 was using the exynos chipset too..
BladeoftheImmortal
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Battery down to 53% since I last posted. Been using it the whole time to read GAF.
I really want to wait one more year before getting a new one, though. I like to keep my phones for 3 years before getting something new. Had a nexus 4, then my note pro. Then whatever I get next.
I really want to wait one more year before getting a new one, though. I like to keep my phones for 3 years before getting something new. Had a nexus 4, then my note pro. Then whatever I get next.
OP, I don't blame you for wanting to switch after a string of bad experiences, it happens. But I also want to say as an iOS user, the battery issue can happen to any phone really. The iPhone 6S had a battery recall on certain models, the Note 7 had battery issues, etc. These things can happen on every phone, it's just sometimes it's more widespread than others.
If you really want to switch, go for it. But if your just looking for a quality Android phone with a great battery, maybe wait for the Pixel 2 which should be announced next month or check out some of Samsung's high end options like the S8+.
I'm sure the iPhone 8/X will be great too, but ultimately I'm suggested those because you said you prefer Android.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Change is good. Welcome to Apple, OP.
hydrophilic attack
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Holy shit there are a lot of these stories about people using and hating old-ass Android devices that were objectively terrible and then using that as a basis for never trying the platform again. When I got my first iPhone (a 3GS I got at launch), it didn't even support picture messaging. What if I had sworn off iOS because of stupid shit like that?
I much prefer Android to iOS but I can't get hardware to last beyond the pay off of the phone. I've had the Note 2 and 4 (4 was by far my favorite phone to date) but as soon as I pay the phones off the battery doesn't last and I get all kinds of hardware issues and Android just doesn't feel optimized any more. I currently went back to iPhone and am enjoying that it doesn't seem to have some coincidental kill switch after pay off. It just works and runs well regardless, but I hate the OS design I tself. ITunes needs to die a horrible death and Apple needs to allow us to drag and drop stuff into the phone.
The Citizen Kane of Games
Member
Yeah the note 7 was a shitshow, but it was a once in a lifetime shitshow.
iPhones had problems as well, look at iPhone 4(?) antenna problem.
Also Samsung is pushing innovation a lot more than Apple is nowadays, epscially with screens and batteries. Apple usually uses technology that has been proven and tested, take that as you will.
It hasn't just been the S6 for me. Like I said earlier, I've had Android since the G1 in 2009 and this happens every time (not sure about the G1, only had it 1 year and it was kinda slow to begin with). I just looked over some old screenshots I sent to my friend group from last year (after ~15mos with the S6). Based on the comment in the pic, my phone was just sitting on my desk for a 2-3hrs hours during my morning meetings/work and ~30-40% of the battery gets burned by Android OS, Google Services, and other core apps. I'm not a crazy smart phone power user either. I use Baconreader, Chrome for GAF, and Whatsapp for 98% of my smartphone usage. Anecdotally, my roommates and SO have iPhones (one is a 3yr old 6), and their batteries and user experience are tip-top.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Oh no, that's all threads like these can offer really.
Between me and my relatives we have several life Android and iOS users and I'm that tech support guy in the family. I'd say for things you have problem with Android, they exist on iOS. Honestly, the only thing Apple does better is supporting a phone longer with software updates. Hopefully that will start to change with Oreo for Android but we probably won't see any effect until next year when flagship are shipped with Oreo because some of the new framework that will help with timely update isn't required for devices updating to Oreo. Everything else is just a bit give and take so it's really just down to preferences.
For me, everything else I can eventually get used to on iOS if I really want to except the notification system and the lack of the ability to select default apps. But I have no reason to switch. Every Android device I've owned has been pretty solid except weird ass software quirks on some OEMs. Those manufactures won't get my money again.
For me, everything else I can eventually get used to on iOS if I really want to except the notification system and the lack of the ability to select default apps. But I have no reason to switch. Every Android device I've owned has been pretty solid except weird ass software quirks on some OEMs. Those manufactures won't get my money again.