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J.J. Abrams says Star Trek the game 'arguably hurt' Into Darkness...
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Can Crusher
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The movie sucked JJ, start there.
I will never watch this piece of shit again. Ever. Not even on free television with commercials.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Honestly, he'd have to be pretty god damn bad for that to actually happen. The prequel trilogy was god awful so it'd be pretty damn hard to produce a set of films that were worse than them.
Shadow2222
Member
Wow, I thought the movie was terrific. I had no idea there was such a negative reception. What was so awful about it (keep in mind I'm not overly familiar with Star Trek lore)?
Anticitizen One
Banned
Star Trek into darkness is a phenomenal movie what he is saying is that the game being bad hurt the excitement and anticipation for the film. The movie got great reviews, did very well financially, and is beloved by moviegoers.
Interceptor
Banned
Yep, that´s the point. If you are a Trek Fan you are constantly Picardfacepalming while watching the movie. It´s enjoyable as a generic scifi B-Movie but it´s a shame he used the Star Trek franchise to do this. It´s like going from Dead Space 1 to 3 or like Super Metroid to other M or like Star Wars V to I or Shakespeare to Kardashians etc etc
schwabdizzle
Banned
FUCK! I was gonna Red Box that shit this weekend now you are gonna make myself question my hard earned $1.50
IdreamofHIME
Member
Shitty Star Wars games has never hurt that franchise, is he gonna blame those for Episode 7?
dancingphlower
Member
Star Trek Into Darkness was a bad movie? Since when?
flyinpiranha
Member
I am fairly familiar, I don't really care how they fuck around with that kind of stuff. This movie is less about 50 year olds who are trekkies and more about the generation now. It's his take on a classic.
Honestly this is the first place I've heard anybody talk bad about it.
So I guess you think the Twilight movies are great then...
hah yeah same here. I enjoyed the movie.
crimsonheadGCN
Banned
I liked Into the Darkness and thought it was a good movie. I have been a fan of Star Trek since the late 80s/early 90s and watched all the movies and nearly every series (never finished watching the last few seasons of Voyager and Enterprise).
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Since never.Solid action movie, not as much a Star Trek movie but it was still good. Cumberbatch & Pegg stole the show.
As for the game, it wasn't abysmal but it had issues. There was some enjoyment to be had though.
I doubt there is any correlation between the videogame and the movie.
Like, at all. Very baffling idea.
Quick reply etiquette demanded a response like this, but then I remembered that Star Trek Into Darkness was quite good.
Like, at all. Very baffling idea.
Quick reply etiquette demanded a response like this, but then I remembered that Star Trek Into Darkness was quite good.
IdreamofHIME
Member
Voted the worst by the "fans"
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...worst-star-trek-film-by-trekkies-8763317.html
and it's box office was waaaaaay under projection. It tracked below the last movie, which is something a big budget sequel cannot do.
flyinpiranha
Member
For the teenage female audience and their boyfriends? Yes, it's a great movie. For 30 year old videogame forum-goers who argue about every detail on a 240p stream of an unreleased game? Probably not.
In my opinion the new Star Treks are basically Star Wars action movies dressed up as Star Trek. Enjoyable popcorn fanfiction, but not real Star Trek. Not even close.
soulassssns
Banned
damn
Truth.
Movie was a disaster right from word 1.
Yes let's freeze a volcano solid with a *cold fusion bomb*. I mean it has the word cold in it right, that's totally what would happen right? Sadly this pile of stupid was the high point of the movie.
soulassssns
Banned
Zeyphersan
Banned
Did Into Dark not make as much money as ST09? Wiki says it made about $100 million more on a similar budget?
Same here, I am terribly confused.
I went into the movie completely cold and I very much enjoyed it. Overall I liked it more than the first. I didn't care for Eric Bana and how they handled the 'bad guy' element. The first had some great scenes though, I just don't feel the pacing helped.
I think it's amazing how the movie with time travel and alternate dimensions actually had a more coherent script than the sequel.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
It actually had exploration and non-humanoid aliens and was probably closer to Star Trek than the movies, but that's not saying the movies are bad. I loved ST 2009 and can't wait to see Into Darkness, which I think I will also love.
Anyways, the game was written by the movie team and is considered part of canon. Is Abrams bashing it because it was glitchy? Because if he's talking about the story, than he's putting down his own team it seems.
BTW, Dazzler, did you play the PS3, 360 or PC version?
weevles
Member
JJ said flat out that the game "arguably" hurt the success of the movie and most of the responses here are saying that the quality of the game had nothing to do with the movie's performance at the box office, which I agree with as well. Into Darkness was it's own worst enemy, not some video game movie-tie in that any gamer would've had low expectations on anyway.
love that last part, which makes me think you are being satirical?
Anyway, imo, its just one of the 6-12 disposable action summer blockbusters that get released every year and will be forgotten before the next cycle begins.
I think what he's trying to say is that a bad game is not going to win anyone over regarding whether or not to watch the movie. Perhaps not the best choice of words from his part, and it certainly feels as though he at least should have given the developers some support rather than calling them out over a bad game.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
There's a reason why they stopped making the old Trek movies, apart from First Contact they were all panned, Nemesis barely made its budget back.
I am a huge Star Trek nerd and I love the science and tech behind the shows and I was disappointed at how they threw it all away and made Star Trek into a "popcorn flick", but I really love the new movies.
I can't corroborate my information but I'm sure I read that Nero bringing back Borg tech on the Narada gave Starfleet a version of Borg Transwarp which is why they can get to places quicker.
According to the novelisation of Into Darkness, Khan didn't beam from earth to Qo'noS. He beamed from earth to a cargo station in orbit, he then beamed from there to a ship in orbit of the moon. Then from that ship to Qo'noS.
plagiarize
Banned
A terrible tie in game is very very unlikely to help the movie. So, the best case scenario is that it didn't have any impact. If it did have an impact however, it was probably negative.
So yeah. I think he can say it 'arguably hurt'. If he's trying to say it's responsible for Into Darkness maybe underperforming, I'd think that was utterly stupid. But he's not.
So yeah. I think he can say it 'arguably hurt'. If he's trying to say it's responsible for Into Darkness maybe underperforming, I'd think that was utterly stupid. But he's not.
Interceptor
Banned
Well the movie was ok. Especially the cast. The doc, kahn, kirk are really a good fit for their roles. But good scifi and especially trek uses the futuristic setting to explore human interaction and to ask the big questions, at least in the good episodes. In the last 25 years Trek has build a really unique universe with it´s own logic and rules. JJ just does´t give a fuck about them, he even admitted he never saw tng but only the original series. He borrows some still popular characters and rejects everything else. Like i said, the movie is ok at best but it´s not a good Trek movie. Too many plotholes.
& science while you're at it. I like a nice mix between the two.
Kydd BlaZe
Member
My thoughts exactly. Into Darkness was easily the best film I've seen all year. I thought it was great.
I guess I can see where he is coming from but I can't imagine that the game did that much damage to the actual movie. This isn't the first time that some terrible videogame got released along a movie.
Did that Lost game hurt Lost, too, because that Lost finale Abrahms. Let's talk about that.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I adored Star Trek 09, but Into Darkness was pretty mediocre. I didn't even know there was a video game.
I actually finished Star Trek: The Video Game and the "plot" was not that bad compared to the movies. Need I say more?
The new movies are just too heavy on action, and too light on story to be called Star Trek. But I liked Into Darkness as an action movie. You just have to turn off your brain in order to enjoy it, or else all the inconsistencies, plot holes and scientific inaccuracies will make you mad.
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