No it's not. Multiplat games do exist you know and not everyone is a PC gamer. Therefore BF4, CoD, AC4, etc are all games PS4 owners have been playing. If you think most people are buying PS4's for future inFamous and Uncharted, you're wrong.
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Japan claims another victim (PS4)
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No it's not. Multiplat games do exist you know and not everyone is a PC gamer. Therefore BF4, CoD, AC4, etc are all games PS4 owners have been playing. If you think most people are buying PS4's for future inFamous and Uncharted, you're wrong.
nelsonroyale
Member
Japanese devs have really gone down hill sadly
BoilersFan23
Member
It takes a lot of time for Japanese developers to move onto the next console generation. PS4 will see more sales as more Japanese specific games are made. It's not going to sell massive numbers, but we'll see sales go up when FFXV, KHIII, new Tales, etc. come to it. Until they come, Japan is not going to buy a new console at launch "hoping" all these games come to it one day. They buy the console when the games come.
Aquamarine
Member
PS3 First 5 Weeks:
Week 1 (11/6/2006): 88,443
LTD: 88,443
Week 2 (11/13/2006): 43,378
LTD: 131,821
Week 3 (11/20/2006): 37,261
LTD: 169,082
Week 4 (11/27/2006): 30,467
LTD: 199,549
Week 5 (12/4/2006): 43,597
LTD: 243,146
Wii U First 5 Weeks:
Week 1 (12/3/2012): 308,570
LTD: 308,570
Week 2 (12/10/2012): 130,653
LTD: 439,223
Week 3 (12/17/2012): 122,356
LTD: 561,579
Week 4 (12/24/2012): 76,760
LTD: 638,339
Week 5 (12/31/2012): 70,662
LTD: 709,001
PS4 First 3 Weeks:
Week 1 (2/17/2014): 322,083
LTD: 322,083
Week 2 (2/24/2014): 52,697
LTD: 374,780
Week 3 (3/3/2014): 30,766
LTD: 405,546
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
The Wiiu launched with a Mario game. The PS4 launched with Knack.
KNACK.
KNACK.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Isn't PC becoming bigger in Asia?
Idiol Master VR edition with "bio" feed back if you know what I mean. Outside that well console gaming can be officially declared dead in Japan.
Interfectum
Gold Member
Mobile gaming.
Red Liquorice
Member
TheSpoiler
Member
Is that why Japan is still leading in the fighting games department? Or how about their deeper action games like Bayo and DMC?
Hell, my favorite TPS game was Vanquish, and they somehow changed that whole outlook of what a TPS could turn out like.
I really do think the industry is in decline.
People are holding onto the great PS4 numbers as some sort of counter example, but it's a bit like the falling of the Roman empire in that people will keep saying everything's fine until it's too late.
Where do we go from here? Honestly I don't know but I suspect Apple will have a say in where gaming goes next. I'm watching their moves with AppleTV very closely. They have something up their sleeves for sure.
People are holding onto the great PS4 numbers as some sort of counter example, but it's a bit like the falling of the Roman empire in that people will keep saying everything's fine until it's too late.
Where do we go from here? Honestly I don't know but I suspect Apple will have a say in where gaming goes next. I'm watching their moves with AppleTV very closely. They have something up their sleeves for sure.
Graphics Horse
Member
I'm not convinced it's going to sell worse than the vita yet, at least once some games come out for it.
And yet, Knack outsold 3DW in the UK.
Not true at all, and what does this have to do with sales?
plasmawave
Banned
You forgot Dark Souls!
TheSpoiler
Member
And people are calling the death of the PS4 and praying that they are right, and once it doesn't happen, they'll pretend they never said such silly things.
We can play this both ways.
Damnit! Dark/Demon Souls too! And a bunch of fun, overlooked games like Way of the Samurai 4, Folklore, 3D Dot Hereos, and The Last Remnant.
Honestly be stupid of them to launch in Japan just throwing money away. Use that savings for lots of money hats.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
It's Japan's lost. I won't mind getting one of those "Made in Japan" PS4s tho since they seem to be in abundant supply xD.
Amazon's more interesting than Apple in the core console market space. Apple is a non-starter.
Yeah, they have something up there alright. All the worms from their growing stock of rotten apples.
Amazon's more interesting than Apple in the core console market space. Apple is a non-starter.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Smartphones are taking over Japan. There's no stopping it.
Risk Breaker
Member
Not really. Handheld on its third year vs console on its first year at twice the price, it would be pretty logical *shrug*.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Japan is goingg full mobile, we can only hope that the next nintendo handheld is succesful , so we can at least get some of their games .
Obviously , the big publisher will continue their support of consoles , but they are going to be more focused on the western market ...
Obviously , the big publisher will continue their support of consoles , but they are going to be more focused on the western market ...
Why are you surprised? The best selling western games all released on day 1. The best selling Japanese games aren't there on day 1.
PC has always been big in asian.. just not Japan.
thats depressing.
entremet
Member
Asia or Japan? Big difference.
SkylineRKR
Member
There were only 90k Ps3's ready for launch. But you can see that in the long term it kept selling better than what the PS4 is going to do (judging by its drop, I doubt it'll hold even 30k a week for the next month).
Console gaming is done for in Japan. And Sony isn't stupid ofcourse, they didn't prioritize this market and they made no effort to exclusively develop something for it too.
Console gaming is done for in Japan. And Sony isn't stupid ofcourse, they didn't prioritize this market and they made no effort to exclusively develop something for it too.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I really hope Nintendo's next handheld is amazing, I need to keep getting Japanese games.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Well, maybe because the PS4 is technically a western console? 
I don't know. It's no games, that's why. Wait till FFXV hits. It'll skyrocket. Whenever that may be is the question!
I don't know. It's no games, that's why. Wait till FFXV hits. It'll skyrocket. Whenever that may be is the question!
Agree. PS4 will be awesome in time, but not yet. The PS3 is still getting good stuff.
Obviously the Western market is important for bigger pubs, but Japanese attitudes seem to imply that Japan is still the primary market.
Yeah I'm kinda worried about what happens to handheld games if Nintendo's handhelds don't succeed. They'd probably go mobile, or not get made at all.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
Then why did it sell so well in the US? Were Killzone and Knack the primary driver for the console? Most of the other games were available on PS3.
I think the US was just hungrier for Next Gen than Japan is.
KillerMan91
Member
Nope. COD, AC, FIFA and BF are the biggest system sellers you can get in west. Especially BF is completely different experince on next gen consoles (60fps, 64 players).
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Smartphones are going to erode Nintendo's grip on the Japanese handheld market as well. I don't expect their next handheld to match 3DS's sales.
Bomber Bob
Banned
No place for home consoles in today japan busy society
This is why Sony launched the PS4 in other areas other than japan, it's just not worth the launch over there. They sold more at launch, by launching it in N.America and European countries first compared to even japans launch of the PS2. I think Sony was smart in this way. No point in launching it over there if they are only going to get 500k at the most or even 300k which I believe was what they sold at launch in japan....300k.
They are to much into their handhelds over there, I think they are quite done with consoles.
They are to much into their handhelds over there, I think they are quite done with consoles.
TheSpoiler
Member
I'm not going to completely disagree with you there. But DW8 will do gangbusters, FFONLINE will do alright, and the awful "wait three months before releasing any information about a game' will come into play soon.
I'm not saying that's a good idea, or that it's not an indication of something terrible, because it possibly could be. But it's better to just wait a few months and see where things stand before calling it in.
Justice_Bolt
Member
There is no Japanese games because Japanese devs don't support the console. With over 6M consoles sold , you would expect something from them..But no! I guess i will play JRPG Indies and WRPG this gen then.
BoilersFan23
Member
I only expected 400k to 500k PS4 consoles to be sold. The only thing disappointing to me is Yakuza Ishin not selling more (I thought it would do 200k on PS4 alone). Japan isn't going to buy a console in large numbers until it has the games they want. They have no interests in games that sell well in the west.
JP devs have games in development for PS4, but they will take a while to come out.
Sorrowfully, I agree. Games just aren't selling well over there that aren't on handhelds and this pattern has been going on for years. I wonder how much a DQ game on a console would sell.... DQ10 is online and on wii but that didn't even break 300k. 9 sold what...4 million on the DS. I can't believe not even a million wouldn't buy it, if just for a month of free service.
Interfectum
Gold Member
Home consoles will not be revived and Japan is only a sign of things to come worldwide.