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Japan claims another victim (PS4)
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zeopower6
Member
The Wii U also debuted just before the holiday season in Japan....
I sure am glad that no other manufacturers follow this logic.
"Shit guys we sold less of our device at the end of the month than we did launch day when we filled the world with ads and hype!"
"Well we got plenty of software coming but if the next month or two isn't going to sell a lot of systems I guess we have to throw our entire plan for the next 7 years in the trash!"
*wads up paper and shoots it into a corner trash can*
"Shit guys we sold less of our device at the end of the month than we did launch day when we filled the world with ads and hype!"
"Well we got plenty of software coming but if the next month or two isn't going to sell a lot of systems I guess we have to throw our entire plan for the next 7 years in the trash!"
*wads up paper and shoots it into a corner trash can*
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It had a worse week 3 than the PS3 which was supply constrained with $599. That's fucking awful whichever way you look at it.
But I was told Wii U was an undesirable system that no one wanted. If it's trending a drop 400% lower than that of an undesired platform, regardless of when things are being sold, it may not spell ultimate doomsday, but it's not an inconsequential thing.
EDIT: also, the above post. It's not fuzzy statistics, it's a problem.
The hopes of increased Japanese relevance on next-gen consoles was always a pipe dream.
The market has changed, probably irreversibly. Many of the big developers have either shut down, drastically downsized, or pulled out of video games altogether. The game development culture that made Japan such a powerhouse up through the PS2 era has evaporated over the last decade and it isn't coming back.
The market has changed, probably irreversibly. Many of the big developers have either shut down, drastically downsized, or pulled out of video games altogether. The game development culture that made Japan such a powerhouse up through the PS2 era has evaporated over the last decade and it isn't coming back.
iamvin22
Industry Verified
Sonys, ultimately, but its a no brainer that people make more purchase during the holiday season vs the month of February. Also add a better launch line up for the wiiu.
Considering sales seem to exist of the back of KNACK, I think they could have gotten away with not waiting at all.
So Sony started this thread, interesting.
This sentence can totally be read both as case for and against PS4, ahaha.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Well obviously it's gonna sell on pure hype alone considering it has no notable announced Japanese software for the entirety of 2014
Pretty much proves that Sony was smart to avoid launching in Japan until last. At this point I honestly wonder if Microsoft will even bother launching in Japan or not. It has to cost them more to manufacture consoles, region specific games with Japanese languages and get the Kinect to understand Japanese than it would make them in profits.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Wow, nintendo really has japan on lock...
eXistor
Member
A split has happened. Gaming used to be on consoles and handhelds. Three quarters of the public has now split off towards smartphones and they're not coming back. The remaining quarter isn't big enough to sustain the insane expectations Sony and Nintendo have. Traditional gaming is dead and it will never come back unless something big happens. Games will come and things will get marginally better, but the tide will never truly turn.
I hope I'm dead wrong about this btw.
I hope I'm dead wrong about this btw.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
PS4 Japanese console sales are terrible full stop. People need to stock looking at the holidays and see the bigger picture. These sales are bad.
Unless the hype factor is great in this there's a real chance it'll sell below 10k a week.
Astral Dog
Member
Im not saying that is going to do great, but can we really blame japanese developèrs/ publishers? they mostly cant compete with graphics, the mayor titles are years from now, who is going to buy a ps4 for Persona 5 or Dark souls?
I think Sony is the only company that can do anything to help that market, Nintendo tried but failed miserably, but they dont seem to care for now , and who can blame them?
Wow that's really underwhelming.
I was in Japan last month and I didn't see much interest in PS4 preorders @ Akihabara, but never expected this.
Nevertheless I was surprised by how packed Arcades were, specially by some weird cardboard MTG-ish type of games.
maybe we will see a revival of Arcade gaming?
I was in Japan last month and I didn't see much interest in PS4 preorders @ Akihabara, but never expected this.
Nevertheless I was surprised by how packed Arcades were, specially by some weird cardboard MTG-ish type of games.
maybe we will see a revival of Arcade gaming?
No, but those games aren't going to die anytime soon.
Astral Dog
Member
Paracelsus
Member
It doesn't have exclusive AAA Japanese games, not even two or three B-tier ones. It seems Sony has to learn the hard way once again.
Agreed. February is notoriously quiet in Japan plus PS4 has already sold 400,000+ which the OP doesn't even mention. No panic stations yet. Also we do not know the full stock situation 100%.
Wait until at least after Xmas until the doom and gloom.
zeopower6
Member
I don't really understand why the PS3's sales being higher in its third week are being brought into it when its total sales in its third week were much lower than the PS4's or does that figure not matter...?
Whatever the case is, the sales were good at launch but there are no games for the Japanese public to buy or even anticipate outside of a small handful. :/
wondermega
Member
How is that vita TV device doing over there?
I expect to see a lot more cross gen PS3/PS4 titles in Japan's future. That's the only way they can stay afloat if the numbers keep on looking bad, especially through what little support the PS4 is getting from Japan. I do think though, that, if we see the PS4 sales pick up a lot of titles that were previously only PS3 titles have a chance of getting a PS4 port/GoTY/Cross release. Looking at you, Dark Souls 2.
I do think it's a little early to spell doom for the console. That being said, I don't see a bright future in the upcoming months in terms of games. There's the obvious bump it will receive from MGS V and FF XIV and possibly Watch_Dogs, but the amount of the games with confirmed dates just seems rather barren.
It could be a rough first year for the PS4 in a country that simply doesn't like consoles as much and I'll reserve judgement for after that first year.
It could be a rough first year for the PS4 in a country that simply doesn't like consoles as much and I'll reserve judgement for after that first year.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Because Nintendo is doing so hot by now.
I didn't mentioned because is you usual fanboy narrative.
PS4 sales are bad compared to a lot of other launches, nevermind the Wii U's.
I think the writing was on the wall. Japan has moved on to handheld and mobile. It'll be interesting to see the next few weeks but there is a definite trend.
The question is: Does the rest of the mainstream world eventually follow?
Edit:
Horribly, although the Vita itself has made a bit of a comeback. Vita will never catch the 3DS LTD but it's alive and well.
I think Vita TV would have been a better sell in the US and EU. Repurpose it with all the video apps PS4 supports and sell it as Sony's Roku box that just happens to play Vita games. In the US at least, people have shown that they will pay $99 for a Netflix/Amazon/Hulu player.
The question is: Does the rest of the mainstream world eventually follow?
Edit:
Horribly, although the Vita itself has made a bit of a comeback. Vita will never catch the 3DS LTD but it's alive and well.
I think Vita TV would have been a better sell in the US and EU. Repurpose it with all the video apps PS4 supports and sell it as Sony's Roku box that just happens to play Vita games. In the US at least, people have shown that they will pay $99 for a Netflix/Amazon/Hulu player.
Astral Dog
Member
zeopower6
Member
It's not doing as well as people hoped. :<
If Mario Kart has a yet to be announced secret big feature, they can take Japan by storm.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
If only the same were true worldwide.
They (Sony) have moved on to the international market. No one should expect a home console to succeed in Japan anymore. It is a poor metric to gauge overall reception in any other territory besides Japan. No hard way about it. Besides, Japanese devs are making games for PS3 and Vita.
It's Japanese 3rd party publisher's fault for focusing so much on dedicated portable gaming handhelds & mobile gaming over consoles since the Wii/PS3/360 era. They made themselves irrelevant in console gaming by doing that & is the reason why Western 3rd party publishers have taken over Japanese 3rd party publishers at this point.