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Give it to respawn
came here to say the same thing
Give it to respawn
No. Because it's never about what u just described. It's almost exclusively about pandering for a exta few bucks, media mentions, and twitter backpats.why?
cause it has a meaningful and causal relationship impact on the possible quality (don't know how we would measure this) of the game that couldn't be more likely attributed to another factor of the game development?
What percent of the population is gay? A couple percent? What percent are straight? 98 percent. Yea let’s cater to the smallest demographic.
Just revive SSX already
And give Burnout back to Criterion for christ sake
Why would this be important or even be relevent?
Honestly, I want the lead to be an engineer that constantly uses the armor and never takes off.If he is a she,or what colour is the skin,is completely irrelevant.
I just want a good Dead Space again.
Even if it's true, it's EA so that alone is a red flag.
Don't forget who killed this franchise in the first place.
I didn't say it was done on purely innocent (looking for a better word) motives. I just said it doesn't matter. The game's quality is what matters.No. Because it's never about what u just described. It's almost exclusively about pandering for a exta few bucks, media mentions, and twitter backpats.
Its not genuine.
If being a man, and having the color of your skin being white, would make a bad game, then gaming in general would suck ass. That principle can be applied to any industry or product in fact.The reason it's important is because a majority of video game characters have always been white, straight cis males.
Anyway, I wouldn't look into it at the moment as this is only a rumor. Personally, I'd rather see a full trilogy remaster, then a full blown sequel.
2008 EA isn't the same as 2021 EA. I used to loves EA for Mass Effect, Burnout, SSX, C&C... but it's not the same company anymore.I mean...they are also the ones that made the franchise in the first place. Using this logic, EA should have been your "red flag" to never play any of the 3 games so......yea
It failed because they forced coop in it. DS3 is full of good ideas completely ruined by the constant reminder that you are not alone and the action gameplay with big explosions. The original DS3 was scrapped for what we got and it's a shame.I don't think EA hates Dead Space, they simply want a game that moves units, thus....after 3 failed, they felt like it made sense to move on.
Don't forget who killed this franchise in the first place.
Hopefully it will be real and Xbox exclusive!
From the creators of Dead Space, they're working on it:
I hate EA as much as the next guy but let's not pretend whiney fans didn't way over exaggerate how bad Dead Space 3 was.
That didn't help matters one bit.
Personally I'm curious what EA is going to do with Fallen Order 2. The first game was a huge critical & financial success for them, but I think a large part of it was that it was a strictly singleplayer, mtx-free product. I don't think it would retain this positive aura and friendly attitude from the flayers if they added microtransactions and some form of forced multiplayer in the sequel.It’s ea they are going to include micro transactions,and loot boxes.
Nice hyperbole there. Exactly the shit I'm talking about.Those pesky fans, having opinions and stuff about a game in a series they love. Very whiney indeed. And entitled, to boot. They should've just let EA ruin one of their most beloved franchises with a soulless, creatively bankrupt, poorly paced, microtransaction-ridden, bruteforced co-op shooter.
Isn't the original DeadSpace team making a new horror title?
Schofield and his crew are working on Callisto Protocol. Downside is that its apparently set in the PUBG universe.
Why do you need a reboot? The game was great already. If you want to do anything, just remake the gfx.
After 3 I dont know if I want another one from EA.
Haven't played that one? Was it bad?They should reboot the third game.
2008 EA isn't the same as 2021 EA. I used to loves EA for Mass Effect, Burnout, SSX, C&C... but it's not the same company anymore.
It failed because they forced coop in it. DS3 is full of good ideas completely ruined by the constant reminder that you are not alone and the action gameplay with big explosions. The original DS3 was scrapped for what we got and it's a shame.
I'm not saying they don't care, I'm saying that I have absolutely ZERO faith they let the dev make the game it needs to be (aka in the same spirit as DS1 & 2). I really hope I'm wrong but as I always says with EA: hope for the best, prepare for the worst.You make good points, but even if you believe that, why would EA not being the "same EA" even make a Dead Space if they no longer care about that?
Unfortunately, we don't have a lot of information about the true DS3, but we do have information about how EA fucked things up:Also do you have a link to any original Dead Space 3 being scrapped info, cause I don't recall anything like that. (its not to say its not true either, simply that a link can go a long way so we can talk about it vs a claim)
Yeah but we don't know that for now. What we know for sure is that EA is shit, you have proof of that. I can't be excited. I just can't trust them anymore.If EA felt stopping it after that made sense, it also means they likely won't return to that action type thing if THAT is the thing that failed vs the original darker horror stuff. So I think 4 will be a mix of 1 and 2.
Dead Space 3 is the one who has sold the most... but EA wanted 5 millions copies sold (completely unrealistic) so don't be so sure they gonna take 1&2 as reference.Think about it like you are greedy EA. 1 did well, 2 did well, 3 flopped. If they want to make money and run with the nostalgia angle, then it makes sense to focus on 1 and 2. So I agree EA has changed, but I also feel this gen they changed for the better in many areas.
And why? Maybe because EA is tired of being the worst company of the year? It's not because they made 3 good decisions that I'm gonna forget the last 10 years. I'm gonna wait and see how all of this goes.Next BF's they delay and give proper time, then they give free maps and dlc, now with BF 2042 all maps are free.
Titanfall 2 all maps free
Battlefront 2 all maps free and a story mode
Mass Effect for better or worse was delayed and given more time.
Star Wars Fallen Order exist and thus shows they indeed are ok with single player games.
Dragon Age 4 is now just single player only, which means they are listening to fans, they are adjusting and focusing on what makes sense for each property.
EA wanted to make profits after the game was released so micro-transactions were needed
Yet we also don't know that it will be this MP, Co-op filled MTX type thing either.....Yeah but we don't know that for now
I see it as they know 3 failed based on what they wanted, they'd save lots of money making a game closer to 1 and not expecting a massive number to move loot boxes or mtx, ie Star Wars Fallen Order. They already did great with that and could easily apply that to Dead Space 3.Dead Space 3 is the one who has sold the most... but EA wanted 5 millions copies sold (completely unrealistic) so don't be so sure they gonna take 1&2 as reference.
I don't fucking care, leave your feelings about EA out of it. You care more about the "why" then you do that it happened all at.Maybe because EA is tired of being the worst company of the year? It's not because they made 3 good decisions that I'm gonna forget the last 10 years.
Btw we all know who is to thanks for Battlefront 2, Dragon Age 4 & Titanfall 2 and that's not EA, it's the players.
Man that whole message scream the opposite but ok.So I'm not saying to love EA
Yes they can, and they have. The backlash about Battlefront 2 was so big that they completely reworked the way the game work. Don't say EA did it because they are nice, they done it because they had no choice and Disney said fix it or your done with SW, and that was a direct result of the players screams.Nah bud, the publisher made those moves to have free maps, remove MP etc Players don't own EA and can't make them make those moves
Wth are you talking about. I don't hate EA, I just don't care anymore. If they do a good game I play it. Fallen Order is a perfect example, here is what I said about the game on the PC Screen thread:Not if you love a company with this deep passion or trust them with your kids or something lol I get it....you hate EA, but I feel that is the thing that hurts many of your points.
I do. The difference is I'm not taking into account what happened 10 years ago, no no no.I can't assume EA will do something this year based on some shit that happened 10 years ago
Not really. Shit its just saying that they've done that this gen, thus could continue to do it.Man that whole message scream the opposite but ok.
THEY NEVER FUCKING NEEDED TO! Listen to what you are saying. The backlash over the beta they never needed to have, the feedback they never needed to listen to and IP they own and team they own that they factually DO NOT NEED to tell to rework, they told to do just that.Yes they can, and they have. The backlash about Battlefront 2 was so big that they completely reworked
I disagree. Your personal issue with this publisher has had you ignoring the entire generation with any excuse that anything good by the publisher wasn't them, but anything bad was 100% them.Wth are you talking about. I don't hate EA, I just don't care anymore.
Thats nice.But we have ton of exemples about EA messing with dev teams, IPs, studios, sequel etc.
I'm taking into account what happened SINCE then. And yes Fallen Order is good, but it's far from being enough to say "EA is making the right choice now"
Can you please calm down? Anyway you do understand that it was Disney that forced EA to rework the game right? The needed to, no choice. Read this:THEY NEVER FUCKING NEEDED TO! Listen to what you are saying. The backlash over the beta they never needed to have, the feedback they never needed to listen to and IP they own and team they own that they factually DO NOT NEED to tell to rework, they told to do just that.
If EA was so fucking evil, why listen? Why give in to any feedback? Why rework the game? Why give free DLC? They announced all free DLC BEFORE anything regarding the beta btw. You spent more time crying over an almost, then acknowledging the publisher actually giving a beta for feedback, listening to fans and following thru. Kinda fucks up that whole narrative of big bad evil EA bad bs that many keep trying to force.
I'd argue an evil publisher won't give 2 shits.
Doesn't put out a beta.
Doesn't listen to fans.
Rushes the game out.
Zero free DLC and a fuck you to fans.
I'm sorry but, none of that was happening.
I literally NEVER said that. And you know my issue with EA better than me. Cool. And what about Fallen Order? I liked this game as I said, even acknowledging I was wrong but I'm still ignoring the entire generation?I disagree. Your personal issue with this publisher has had you ignoring the entire generation with any excuse that anything good by the publisher wasn't them, but anything bad was 100% them.
No, we don't. Great singleplayer game by EA since the PS4 and Xone mmmmh I see Fallen Order and....... ?We have tons of RECENT examples
Again, maybe yes, maybe no. They need a lot more than free map for BF 2042 to win me back.If they did such things this gen, I must assume they are likely to do that next gen with stuff like Dead Space.
Disney forced EA to also have free Maps in Titanfall 2, Battlefield V, 2042 etc? Are you sure all those moves are based on Disney?Anyway you do understand that it was Disney that forced EA to rework the game right?
what about Fallen Order? I liked this game as I said, even acknowledging I was wrong but I'm still ignoring the entire generation?
The thing is you can't take ONE singleplayer game and say "EA is redeemed". Or maybe for you,
Oh we do though.No, we don't.
Again, maybe yes, maybe no. They need a lot more than free map for BF 2042 to win me back.
Moot point, what we do know is that EA has removed MP to focus on Single player, the teams strengthWe don't know if Dragon Age 4 is gonna be good but the last entry was bad so...
Moot pointWe don't know if the next Mass Effect is gonna be good but the last entry was bad so...
Moot point and I don't know if 9 million units and free maps is "bad" by any means. So what we do know about 2042 is that they will have free maps for all.We don't know if BF 2042 is gonna be good but the last entry was bad so...
We don't know if the Dead Space reboot is gonna be good but the last entry was bad so...
Damage control. That's all. And they are most likely based after the BIG backlash about Battlefront II & Disney. So yeah, those move are kind of based about Disney.Disney forced EA to also have free Maps in Titanfall 2, Battlefield V, 2042 etc? Are you sure all those moves are based on Disney?
Of course it is, EA has some of my most loved IPs like C&C, Mass Effect, SSX etc... so yeah, I want them to succeed and do great games again and have some kind of redemptionlol well there you go. This indeed is some redemption thing for you. Win you back?
I though we talked about singleplayer games but ok:Oh we do though.
They rushed BF4, yet delayed other titles that generation, clearly something has changed.
Add in Titanfall 2 having all free maps, Battlefront 2, Battlefield V, Battlefield 2042, clearly something has changed.
Single player titles like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Mirrors Edge, Titanfall 2 SP, Star Wars Fallen Order, Squadrons etc
The fact that they are still doing single player titles, delaying titles to make them better vs rusing out, BF2042 was literally delayed to skip this next gen launch, it shows you are not really talking about 100% the exact same EA.
The EA from last gen was going to rush that shit out to get it on next gen systems day 1, here is a season pass, no free dlc and have fun. Thats not what is happening here.
That doesn't make a good game, as I said wait and see but the past prove me right.what we do know is that EA has removed MP to focus on Single player, the teams strength
Sales ≠ quality. Look now and the game is deserted, BF4 and BF One are more played. Free map is good for sure.I don't know if 9 million units and free maps is "bad" by any means. So what we do know about 2042 is that they will have free maps for all.
Yes you can speculate but the previous entry say otherwise and give me reason to be perplexed.what we can speculate is they have done Single player with no MP and no MTX and it has worked for them. We can speculate that Dead Space reboot might not have MTX or an MP etc.
Those aren't moot point, we could look at user reviews but I know you know.Moot point
You can. I wont. I need actual good games before taking EA seriously again and what they've done in the last year or two is far from being enough in my opinion.This shit on if its good or not is moot. We don't know that about any game by any team by any publisher.
So if you can bring up all the shit that happened that was bad, 99% sure you can bring up all the things that happened like EA delaying a game to make it better vs rushing shit out, removing modes that are not used or not done the best by the team, giving free maps and modes etc.
Make it fair. All i'm saying is all that shit can't be ignored simply because you dislike the publisher. I'm not saying to love em, but look at what was done this generation and at least see its only fair to assume they might apply that same thing to Dead Space 4.
I disagree. The free DLC was announced BEFORE the backlash, it was the beta that cause the backlash, but the free DLC was announced months before that beta ever came. Also Titanfall 2 released BEFORE that entire thing occurred, it had free maps..... So you can't really just claim all of that is a Disney thing.Damage control. That's all. And they are most likely based after the BIG backlash about Battlefront II & Disney.
Thats fine, but the point of this is simply showing that EA has done it before, thus could be done in Dead Space 4, not "can EA win me back again" like, huh? If you want to talk about that sure, but this has nothing to really do with that.Of course it is, EA has some of my most loved IPs like C&C, Mass Effect, SSX etc... so yeah, I want them to succeed and do great games again
The examples used are showing that they've recently done things, those things can be argued that they would likely continue, thus Dead Space 4 likely to not have MTX or MP etcI though we talked about singleplayer games but ok:
Thats not what I'm debating.. so... yea.That doesn't make a good game
I don't disagree in general, but BFV still moved units and the fact that they kept the free maps shows they are willing to keep things that work.Sales ≠ quality. Look now and the game is deserted, BF4 and BF One are more played. Free map is good for sure.
You can be perplexed as much as you want lol, the point is simply that EA did things last gen that can be assumed they'd do again.Yes you can speculate but the previous entry say otherwise and give me reason to be perplexed.
Oh it is. Any game can be good or bad, simply not the point I'm making.Those aren't moot point,
Sure, but this is about what EA would likely do with Dead Space 4 based on their recent moves.... You keep trying to see this as a "EA, can I trust you" or "EA, can I take you seriously again and can you win me BACK"I need actual good games before taking EA seriously again
This game shouldn't had multiplayer in the first place ffs.
The fact that they wasted time on this just prove that we need to be careful with EA.
Copy past because I responded to this already...I disagree. The free DLC was announced BEFORE the backlash, it was the beta that cause the backlash, but the free DLC was announced months before that beta ever came. Also Titanfall 2 released BEFORE that entire thing occurred, it had free maps..... So you can't really just claim all of that is a Disney thing.
I'm not debating this. I'm not saying Dead Space 4 is gonna be shit because it's EA. I said I'm not convinced by "EA has learned his lesson" especially after ME Andromeda, Dead Space 3, ME Catalyst etc etc... the list is quite long.Thats fine, but the point of this is simply showing that EA has done it before, thus could be done in Dead Space 4, not "can EA win me back again" like, huh? If you want to talk about that sure, but this has nothing to really do with that.
Yep, and I'm not gonna praise EA as soon as they do one good thing or because a game doesn't have MTX. You can be happy by the turnover, for me it's just normal and how it should be from the start. Remember we talk about a millions dollar company.The examples used are showing that they've recently done things, those things can be argued that they would likely continue, thus Dead Space 4 likely to not have MTX or MP etc
See above. No MTX and free map isn't enough if the games are actually bad for whatever reason, and the output of EA on the last gen is quite bad that's a fact.Thus, the example used is to show they have done it recently, will likely do it again. JUST LIKE having a Single Player with no MTX or MP. Thats all.
I'm not taking this as a personal thing, like I said I don't care about EA but if they start doing good games again I will play them.Oh it is. Any game can be good or bad, simply not the point I'm making.
Sure, but this is about what EA would likely do with Dead Space 4 based on their recent moves.... You keep trying to see this as a "EA, can I trust you" or "EA, can I take you seriously again and can you win me BACK"
This is why I'm saying you are talking this a personal thing. This is simply about what they might do, based on what they've done recently. Not if EA loves you, or if you'll take EA back lol Like...huh? I don't know how much more that can be stated btw. It shows you keep seeing this as some redemption thing or something.
Of course I'm focusing on this we have nothing more. That was a bad decision, the team has lost time and resources focusing on an element they knew didn't had it's place.I agree, but notice your focus is to complain that it should have NEVER had this or that, vs being happy that EA is actually listening. You literally only want to focus on a bad thing almost happened or a bad thing did happen.
Ignores that EA is making the call to not have MP in such a title.
I could argue you are searching any positive to point while ignoring all the other things. Still we all know there is a lot more negative than positive about EA, it's sad and I hope it change.You basically are seeking any negative thing to point out while ignoring any positive.
Yeaaaaaah I'm not sure about that.I'm not debating any of that, you actually are.
Why do you keep bringing Microsoft in this talk?It would be like if someone told me they think this next MS
My emotion? Really?and then continue to just express my emotions regarding MS instead of just looking at the objective fact about what they've done