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Jesus Christ music snobs, your music blows ass

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Triumph Dolomite 1300cc said:
You can't listen to that man. He enjoys Kevin Costner's "acting".
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He also sings like a pre-pubescent boy who has had his voice altered to hit proper pitches every time by studio wizards.
 
I can't stand hipsters and music snobs. Mother****ers everyone of them. Unfortunately I've received good recommendations from some of them so I have to tolerate their overall shittyness as human beings.

As far as the NMH album in question, I've only listened to it a few times many years ago and it did nothing for me. Maybe it's time for a revisit and reassessment.
 
I had to listen to Tom Waits for a long time before I really, really liked his music. I bought Bone Machine for Going Out West, and there was maybe one other song on there I really liked. After keeping it in my iPod rotation for a few months, though, it's become comfort music....I don't know how or where that happened, but I sing along, and I feel good listening to it...which is a weird thing to say about Bone Machine, if you've ever listened to the album, but it's true. :P

Definitely not an easy artist to get into, he has a huge catalog and not all of it is classic, but definitely worth a few chances.
 
The Very Best.

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I've made better threads than this that got locked. It's pretty established that people other than "music snobs" like ITAOTS; it is a legitimate contender for a top 10 list of finest albums from its decade, whether the OP likes it or not.

There is such a good thing as objectively well-crafted/seminal work that doesn't do it for a particular individual. Railing against "music snobs" -- or, more accurately, people who like it -- is weaker than Kid A.

lol!
 
Spruce Moose said:
I can't stand hipsters and music snobs. Mother****ers everyone of them. Unfortunately I've received good recommendations from some of them so I have to tolerate their overall shittyness as human beings.
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I don't even know what a hipster or music snob really is.

Maybe I am one and I don't even know it. Oh well. F it. :D
 
Dr_Cogent said:
I don't even know what a hipster or music snob really is.

Maybe I am one and I don't even know it. Oh well. F it. :D
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Us Rush fans are the antithesis of hipsters and music snobs! In fact, we are the butt of many of their jokes. That's probably why I dislike them so much. :lol

Man the grief I had to put up with in College in the early to mid nineties. I remember at one dorm party someone had the Pixies or Sonic Youth or Pavement ... whatever playing and I popped in Counterparts. You should have seen the looks of horror. Classic.
 
Spruce Moose said:
Us Rush fans are the antithesis of hipsters and music snobs! In fact, we are the butt of many of their jokes. That's probably why I dislike them so much. :lol

Man the grief I had to put up with in College in the early to mid nineties. I remember at one dorm party someone had the Pixies or Sonic Youth or Pavement ... whatever playing and I popped in Counterparts. You should have seen the looks of horror. Classic.
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Oh, then I can't stand those types and their taste in music blows ass. :)

Supposed set list for the concert:
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Limelight
Digital Man
Entre Nous
Mission
Freewill
The Main Monkey Business
The Larger Bowl
Secret Touch
Circumstances
Between The Wheels
Dreamline
(unidentified song)

Intermission:

Video Intro
Far Cry
Workin' Them Angels
Armor And Sword
Spindrift
The Way The Wind Blows
Subdivisions
Natural Science
Witch Hunt
MalNar
Drum Solo
Hope
Summertime Blues
The Spirit Of Radio
Tom Sawyer

Encore:

One Little Victory
A Passage to Bangkok
YYZ
******************************


HOLY SHIT
 
Spruce Moose said:
Us Rush fans are the antithesis of hipsters and music snobs! In fact, we are the butt of many of their jokes. That's probably why I dislike them so much. :lol
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Rush fans booed Primus back in the day. That's why we hate you.
 
Flynn said:
Rush fans booed Primus back in the day. That's why we hate you.
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Thats because Primus is ****ing terrible and not even close to not-terrible. I'd gladly have booed them had I been there.
 
QVT said:
Thats because Primus is ****ing terrible and not even close to not-terrible. I'd gladly have booed them had I been there.
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Primus had their moments. You gotta admit that they made an unique contribution to alternative American music in the 90s. I mean, there's nothing else that sounds like 'Frizzle Fry' or 'Sailing the Seas of Cheese'. Unique, whimsical, Out-There, Inventive... how can you be against that?

Of course, Primus is no longer relevant, but that applies to so many bands. Almost all bands go on after they've stopped being relevant. Just judge them at their best moments.

I don't get this bad music/good music business, why not let a hundred flowers bloom? I can see debates about which band is better than which other band, but 'good' or 'bad'? I don't even know what that means.

Some bands that were mentioned are Radiohead and Neutral Milk Hotel. I would maintain that, while Radiohead has had a more steady output of quality, NMH is the better of the two cuz it's reached higher peaks. I guess Jeff Mangum burned brightly but not long.
 
Flynn said:
Rush fans booed Primus back in the day. That's why we hate you.
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I think we were at the same concert! Great Western Forum in Los Angeles...?

Actually, Primus got booed by everyone as an opening act. They opened for Metallica at one show I went to, and the crowd was merciless. After they finished a number, Les kind of stared at the crowd, and then started playing the guitar riff from "Master of Puppets" on his bass. The crowd started going nuts...and then he stopped and said, "Oh, you like that shit? Too bad!" and launched into the next song.
 
Flynn said:
Rush fans booed Primus back in the day. That's why we hate you.
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It doesn't matter who opened for them would be my guess. I didn't boo personally at the Counterparts tour where they opened, but RUSH fans want RUSH and only RUSH. We don't like bands opening for them.

Since then, they haven't had an opening act yet. Thank God.
 
Does anyone like modest mouse? Ive been listening to we were dead before the ship even sank and Ive been impressed by just how good the album is.
 
-jinx- said:
Actually, Primus got booed by everyone as an opening act. They opened for Metallica at one show I went to, and the crowd was merciless. After they finished a number, Les kind of stared at the crowd, and then started playing the guitar riff from "Master of Puppets" on his bass. The crowd started going nuts...and then he stopped and said, "Oh, you like that shit? Too bad!" and launched into the next song.
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:lol I don't listen to primus, but I'd loved to have seen that
 
psycho_snake said:
Does anyone like modest mouse? Ive been listening to we were dead before the ship even sank and Ive been impressed by just how good the album is.
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If you like that album, listen to their first two albums. Their whole discography is great.

edit: if someone put ****ing Rush on at my party I'd tell them to leave. No joke. Ugh.
 
Diablos said:
**** Pitchfork, man. Thom Yorke could record himself shitting into a paper bag and they'd give it a 10 for the most nonsensible reasons.

Kid A is a timeless album!
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Kid A is a piece of shit. I literally like only ONE song on the whole ****ing thing. (The first track.) Their fumblehanded "I wish I was on Warp Records" bullshit was so unbelievably cloying and boring I don't know how anyone can con themselves into thinking it's worthwhile. It's amazing people bother defending it when so many bands before and since have done the "claustrophobic electronics + rock" thing to better dramatic and melodic effect, probably writing less-annoying lyrics in the process, I might add. Easily the worst album in their discography, and that's really saying something about the band that pooped out Pablo Honey. Seeing Pitchfork lick their chops over such meager horseshit is the perfect serendipity of tastelessness and self-aggrandization. The album should come with that review printed out and folded into the liner notes, just so you know that you're face is being peed on.
 
Modest Mouse is pretty decent. I was listening to The Moon and Antarctica yesterday.

And yes, I like both Rush and MM. Suck it down music snobs!
 
Spruce Moose said:
Modest Mouse is pretty decent. I was listening to The Moon and Antarctica yesterday.

And yes, I like both Rush and MM. Suck it down music snobs!
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Never heard Modest Mouse before. Guess I'll give em a shot.
 
terrene said:
Kid A is a piece of shit. I literally like only ONE song on the whole ****ing thing. (The first track.) Their fumblehanded "I wish I was on Warp Records" bullshit was so unbelievably cloying and boring I don't know how anyone can con themselves into thinking it's worthwhile. It's amazing people bother defending it when so many bands before and since have done the "claustrophobic electronics + rock" thing to better dramatic and melodic effect, probably writing less-annoying lyrics in the process, I might add. Easily the worst album in their discography, and that's really saying something about the band that pooped out Pablo Honey. Seeing Pitchfork lick their chops over such meager horseshit is the perfect serendipity of tastelessness and self-aggrandization. The album should come with that review printed out and folded into the liner notes, just so you know that you're face is being peed on.
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I know terrene despises me, and I'm not particularly fond of him either, but the above post was just too awesome.
 
Dr_Cogent said:
It doesn't matter who opened for them would be my guess. I didn't boo personally at the Counterparts tour where they opened, but RUSH fans want RUSH and only RUSH. We don't like bands opening for them.

Since then, they haven't had an opening act yet. Thank God.
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I guess that's the difference. Music snobs like music. Rush fans like only Rush.
 
SnakeswithLasers said:
... but Kid A is still a good album, regardless of what Terrene or Pitchfork say.
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I think most people confuse "interesting career move" with "good music." They acheived little well on Kid A, other than subliminally authoring Warp Records for Dummies and supplying a vehicle for spooky artwork. In both their attempts to branch out and titillate with a newfound electro-minimalism, they are exposed as weilding such a limited vocabulary so poorly one can actually visualize the ACID timeline progressing over the waveforms as their hamfisted "loops" embarass themselves. If anyone other than Radiohead had made the album it would have gotten accurate reviews rather than the breathless ball-polishing that 40-Year-Old-Virgins-With-A-Keyboard like Brent DiCrescenzo puked on the internet's face.

Some of their b-sides from that era actually top the album tracks, and had they kept them and the better tracks from Amnesiac, which I guess was at least partially recorded at the same time, they would have had a good album -- the type of thing that is unifyingly interesting instead of divisively abhorrent. As it is, Kid A's only use to me is that it singularly seperates Pitchfork/Radiohead fanboys from people that I ought to take seriously.
 
I disagree with terrene, but I can't fault his critique of the record. And to be honest, I haven't listened to the record (or much other Radiohead) for three or four years, so he's certainly onto something.
 
Diablos said:
**** Pitchfork, man. Thom Yorke could record himself shitting into a paper bag and they'd give it a 10 for the most nonsensible reasons.
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http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/37216-the-eraser

terrene said:
I think most people confuse "interesting career move" with "good music." They acheived little well on Kid A, other than subliminally authoring Warp Records for Dummies and supplying a vehicle for spooky artwork. In both their attempts to branch out and titillate with a newfound electro-minimalism, they are exposed as weilding such a limited vocabulary so poorly one can actually visualize the ACID timeline progressing over the waveforms as their hamfisted "loops" embarass themselves. If anyone other than Radiohead had made the album it would have gotten accurate reviews rather than the breathless ball-polishing that 40-Year-Old-Virgins-With-A-Keyboard like Brent DiCrescenzo puked on the internet's face.
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Or maybe some of us really think it's their best album and, yes, 'good music'. You namedrop the Warp-referance several times, subliminally communicating that you know your electronic music and as such can be allowed the final word on Radioheads "electronic trip": Well, that doesn't quite cut it. Some of us do like all sorts of electronic music, from Warp to other labels quite capable of refining their own styles. It is however an old cliché in arguments against Kid A that it's a tame Warp-wannabe attempt.

Their electronic soundscapes on Kid A are bleak, simple, minimal - obviously willingly and skilfully so, mirroring the themes and emotions - not 'cheaply' and poorly done. Arguing that you can observe the techniques behind the music is a relevant argument now? When was physical, technical finesse and advanced engineering ever the end-all say in music history? The barren electronic sounds are actually perfectly fitted for Thom's particularly 'chilly' vocals on this album. But somehow you know that they're just a result of limited expertise as they furiously copied the latest Autechre gig, right?

I'm sorry, this shouldn't be another Kid A argument thread, but your bold attitude and absolute claims to seperate 'real' Radiohead fans from some sort of posers based on your very forced perspective of the album provoked a response. Keep that nonsense to yourself.
 
I have never heard of Neutral Milk Hotel before this thread and after looking them up on youtube I wish I never clicked on this thread.
 
I love Kid A. I think it's cold and heartbreaking at the same time, which is quite a feat. Like the NMH record, it speaks to me.
 
I still maintain that there is a single good album between Kid A and Amnesiac. The standout tracks are nice, but there's a lot of stuff there that should have been left in the recycle bin.

And Morning Bell (Amnesiac) is one of the worst songs of the millenium.
 
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