I don't understand why people are upset. He's just doing his job. Both sides are the same anyway. The overseers on my great, great, great grandfather's plantation were just doing their job too. I'm not sure why the outrage PC police have to get so outraged about a late night host with millions of viewers making a white supremacist seem like a big lovable orange teddy bear. Why all this hate for the white man lately?
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Jimmy Fallon faces backlash for Donald Trump interview
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I don't understand why people are upset. He's just doing his job. Both sides are the same anyway. The overseers on my great, great, great grandfather's plantation were just doing their job too. I'm not sure why the outrage PC police have to get so outraged about a late night host with millions of viewers making a white supremacist seem like a big lovable orange teddy bear. Why all this hate for the white man lately?
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ZackieChan
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Don't legitimize Trump? He's the fucking Republican presidential candidate. He's legitimate. You guys are really odd sometimes.
Vermillion
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Goodness, are people asking for hard-hitting journalism or not playing around with a racist? This is real life. This man is reinforcing hate. Politics isn't just some game, and racism in politics can't just be ignored.
entremet
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Exactly.
Subpar Spatula
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If Cosby was favored highly by a lot of people you would then see him on talk shows. The person doesn't matter, the ratings matter.
yeh as a foreigner it's really interesting to see these reactions
A Link to the Past
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And they would be criticized in like, especially if they softballed and joked around with alleged rapist Bill Cosby. It would be considered irresponsible by many people to have had Cosby on the air.
People aren't talking about that. People are talking about how Fallon's set makes Trump humanizes him.
bob_arctor
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I mean, I'm at the gym, posting between sets, this is hardly a waste of my energy. Fallon should have went in on Trump, not to the point of a political attack, but needling just enough to acknowledge Trump's monumental baggage. That's as far as it goes for me. If the interview matters so little as you say, it follows that Fallon would not really have lost viewership if he decided to actually show some balls, if only a little bit, wrapped in his brand of humor.
Do you honestly think, given the hate in this country that has unveiled itself this election, that if Fallon had David Duke on it wouldn't draw big ratings?
The way you just described Trump could be used to describe Duke, especially when his movement this year.
zer0blivion
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Yup.
Apologies if this has already been posted.
Stephen has a question for Donald Trump
https://youtu.be/Rxf8-E2v9og
So, Donald Trump was on The Tonight Show, and Jimmy joked around with him. Now people are pissed at Jimmy for being so lighthearted about the whole situation and social media is fucking mad.
There are too many articles to link; so here is a google link of all the news about it. Most of the headlines and blogs talk about this.
LINK
Thoughts? Is this hate deserved? Is it his job to be more critical and be serious, or he did what his job actually is; to fuck around and have a laugh.
It's pretty normal for the Tonight Show and Fallon. Unfortunately, Trump isn't a normal candidate. He's a white supremicist enabling fascist.
Subpar Spatula
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Then they would. That's fine. You can still shoot down those criticisms as just not wanting to see the bad man on television.
fart town usa
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Fallon should be the least of what people are pissed about considering cable news outlets have been entertaining this Trump crap for years. Not to mention the GOP created this environment for Trump to thrive in and for his talking points to be taken seriously, which also never gets called out.
Fallon gets a pass. Trumps rise didn't start last year, it started decades ago.
Fallon gets a pass. Trumps rise didn't start last year, it started decades ago.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
Honestly, if it was David Duke in that chair, would people be cool with it? I totally understand why.someone would find this outrageous.
If David Duke was a major presidential candidate, he also would on be late night show hosts. It would mean he had a major coalition of voters supporting him, and people would be interested to see what he had to say.
In my country, the far-right candidate (whose party is above the voting threshold and hence part of parliament) also gets interviewed and invited to talk shows. I've never considered that a moral wrong since he is representative of a portion of the electoral reality.
While I agree with you that some of the suggestions presented here are unrealistic you're quite literally the poster with the second highest number of posts in this thread asking people (say exerting energy while doing so) not to waste energy or get too invested in a topic not worthwhile discussing.
7DollarHagane
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What's the reason that people here call trump factually a white supremecist, fascist, bigot, etc.
I though he was a little more open about social conservative issues and doesn't care about them as much?
I though he was a little more open about social conservative issues and doesn't care about them as much?
Bringing Duke on would draw boycotts of the sponsors. That would cost them money not make it. Remember the comedy is only a way to get viewers and the viewers are only a way to sell advertising. Companies only pay for advertising because it helps sales. If you want to affect the shows content you need to organize a way to impact sales.
TheChewyWaffles
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Is that what he is?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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This is ridiculous. It's a comedy/topical talk show. Fallon has no reason to get involved with politics.
I think the election of trump could bring about WW3 but even I have to understand why Fallon took the approach he did.
Not to mention the reaction from the left over this is only further emboldening his supporters.
I think the election of trump could bring about WW3 but even I have to understand why Fallon took the approach he did.
Not to mention the reaction from the left over this is only further emboldening his supporters.
Dubbedinenglish
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When his campaign manager is the CEO of Brietbart, yes he is.
Yes it should be legally ok to have him on. Same with Cosby.
Just like I don't like Trump being on, I wouldn't want to watch either of them on but if they were presidential candidates that got this far and a meaningless comedy show whose audience was primarily republican and independent brought either on I wouldn't treat it like the end of the world.
The debates will have a more impactful role then 10 Fallon interviews. There is a reason a debate bump is real and a Fallon bump is not.
I'm not talking about ratings, I'm talking about electoral support. Trump has broad electoral support (hence, record of votes in a GOP primary) and is part of the mainstream. David Duke does not, and is a fringe element.
Ninja Scooter
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Spending energy to get the great people of GAF to stop wasting their's when there is more important matters abound. Admirable cause I'd say lol.
But this just reinforces my original point: people do not want to acknowledge Trump for what he truly is.
You're seeing this in how cable news is covering him. People can acknowledge, in the abstract, that Donald Trump is a racist hatemonger. A demagogue. And yet they can't stop covering him and giving him unprecedented amounts of coverage.
Only in this climate can someone like Trump who has peddled this kind of hate can continue to be a ratings draw.
Coverage quantity in the news isn't the problem imo. It's the coverage quality amongst several major networks. Though to be fair, lots of news outlets are doing great work.
DragonSworne
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Hopefully Fallon loses his show over this.
shadowsdarknes
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The more Trump can comfortably go on these shows, the more comfortable people feel voting for him.
A lot of people won't vote for someone who is widely accepted as a racist. The more his shtick is normalized and not challenged by those with large audience platforms, the easier it becomes for people to vote for him.
A lot of people won't vote for someone who is widely accepted as a racist. The more his shtick is normalized and not challenged by those with large audience platforms, the easier it becomes for people to vote for him.
Not sure I can go over it all on a phone, but he has often retweeted white supremicist/ neo-nazi accounts, his campaign has directly taken white supremicist memes and imagery using them in their advertising, had white nationalists as part of his delegations, has made racist comments in his speeches, hired racists as his spokespeople, expressed great admiration for dictators, has support of David Duke and the KKK, welcomes white nationalists at his rallies, kept a volume of Hitler's speeches by his bedside, was a major proponent of the birther movement... that's off the top of my head.
Skellig Gra
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I'm the biggest Fallon hater around but I see no issue with this.
Dreams-Visions
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Short and sweet. Stop making Trump seem cute and innocent. He's neither and that image is keeping him in the race. No responsible person should be doing anything to help him get anywhere near the White House.
I'm probably one of the few people under 50 who misses Letterman. The guy didn't buy into celebrity culture. He was just a weird anti-comedian with a platform to give no fucks. He wasn't perfect. Or even a good person really, but he entertained me.
Fuck Trump. I'm sure Fallon made the right, possibly only, career choice in what he did, but that doesn't make me like his show.
kame-sennin
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'This problem is too big to criticize, so why start now?'
KefkaPalazzo
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I saw the interview last night and was worried because Trump came across as somewhat charming. However, after sleeping on it, I'm less concerned. There has been a (rightful) crusade against Trump throughout the internet and several media outlets, so much so that it has likely reached most Americans by now. So if one good interview can take away all of that and cause people to vote for him, they probably were voting for him in the first place, were they not?
Not what I said at all but thanks for playing.
Fallon is as exciting as watching a saltine cracker grow mold. He plays it safe and loves using his fake laugh. No one cares for his interviews. His platform is built on all those games he plays with his guests.
He has no backbone. He will suck up to and massage any guests ego no matter how much of a shitty person they are. He has no line at where he stops being a kiss ass and where he starts saying "I can't allow this dirt bag to get a platform on my show."
He has no backbone. He will suck up to and massage any guests ego no matter how much of a shitty person they are. He has no line at where he stops being a kiss ass and where he starts saying "I can't allow this dirt bag to get a platform on my show."
A Link to the Past
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And the TC wasn't whining either, yet that didn't stop you from erecting strawmen.
Wuthering_Heights
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Not a huge Fallon fan, but I enjoyed the interview. Zero problems with it.
It's just the outrage of the day, tomorrow it will be something else and this will be forgotten.
It's just the outrage of the day, tomorrow it will be something else and this will be forgotten.
Did you even read what you linked to?
that was his father fred trump that did that.
Fred Trump told him to encourage black tenants to find other housing in order to decrease the black population at that particular complex.
You forgot hired Stephen Bannon, head of Breitbart news and self-acknowledged white supremacist, as his campaign CEO.
Do you have a logical fallacy book at your side that you accidentally got in the wrong language?
Christopher
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Cosbys on trail - what happened to innocent until proven guilty?
A Link to the Past
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Nothing more humorous than someone not reading an article and then criticizing people who they claim did not read the article.
What? lol
"And to get so worked up as to actually start a thread whining"
What person started a thread and began whining? TC's contributions to the thread have been pretty balanced and talking about the controversy, they didn't even choose sides. The closest thing they did was to share images of Donald Trump edited out for Hitler and a pile of manure as a laugh.
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