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John Carmack on Joe Rogan

I remember listening to countless interviews of John Carmack discussing the tech behind DOOM 3 and I could just watch that for hours...the dude is insanely creative/intelligent.
 
Oh god dammit

I thought was is a Joe Rogan vid with this guy in Gaming

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But I quickly see my mistake.
 
Is he going to talk about how easy it is to steal acquire a company's digital files and intellectual property as you're walking out the door? When he was a kid, he was caught breaking in, as an adult breaking out. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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damn i just realized, yeah Romero was the dude w long hair, and Carmack was the tech wizard who invented the WOLF3D and DOOM and Quake engines, IIRC. the dude is a technical genius. anyone who was playing PC games in the early 90s knows that they did not do scrolling very well, they were having a hard time even duplicating Mario-style scrolling, meaning PC gaming was more adventure games and CRPGs and stuff. if you had an action game, it would be stiff and slow and uglier than even an NES. the Indiana Jones games were a good demonstration of this. PC gaming was still in the stone age.

then one day my dad came home from work, he had this 3.5" floppy disk, it had WOLF3D on it. i installed the game on my 386x and started it. instant jump from pre-NES style gaming to 60fps first person shooter. that leap was just mindblowing, how well it performed, and how stunning the visuals. DOOM was a similar revelation, and with the angled walls, (trick) floor/ceiling heights, and varied lighting, it was even more immersive than WOLF3D.

DOOM was huge for me, I read the book, I downloaded mods from BBSes, I made WADs, etc. it was so cool that Carmack had not only created the technology, but that it was made so user-friendly, so easy to modify and play around with, and that he and his team had openly celebrated and encouraged DIY tinkering with their games. they were early adopters of interacting with their fans via the internet, and the game demos were first dropped on a public FTP server. John Carmack is kind of a futurist IMO, the perfect person to nerd out w Joe Rogan on AI & VR and all kinds of shit.
 
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Really looking forward to a long-form Carmack interview.
 
I really love this podcast and I do hope Carmack gets to introduce Joe to VR in a manner that he won't just make it a talking point in this episode.
With the Quest being such a nice option to spread beyond PC hardcore gamers it seems like a perfect time to reach that audience.
 
12Goblins said:
Quake 3 *

guy set up a T1 line directly to his house it cost him like 10 grand a month LOL
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Both wrong it was Quake 1. Source I actually played with him back then, I showed him Thresh's time demo's. Thresh quit in 1997 I think and Quake 3 came out I think in 2000. I'm sure he played 3 but his main game was Quake 1. Guy had Voodoo video cards and all the best stuff on release, got Voodoo 2 sli before release I remember him talking about it on IRC.
 
dkny1121 said:
Both wrong it was Quake 1. Source I actually played with him back then, I showed him Thresh's time demo's. Thresh quit in 1997 I think and Quake 3 came out I think in 2000. I'm sure he played 3 but his main game was Quake 1. Guy had Voodoo video cards and all the best stuff on release, got Voodoo 2 sli before release I remember him talking about it on IRC.
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lol nice. quake 1 had multiplayer?
 
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Shad0w59 said:
As I remember, it didn't out of the box but QuakeWorld came out which added/improved internet play.
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out of the box it was only suitable for local network play. quakeworld was the internet optimized multiplayer add on that came out after. it was a separate executable multiplayer only that read the existing pak files and was the single greatest multiplayer game ever released.
 
I dont pay much attention to Rogan because sometimes he talks a lot of nonsense but I will try to watch the Carmack episode.

#Phonepunk# said:
damn i just realized, yeah Romero was the dude w long hair, and Carmack was the tech wizard who invented the WOLF3D and DOOM and Quake engines, IIRC. the dude is a technical genius. anyone who was playing PC games in the early 90s knows that they did not do scrolling very well, they were having a hard time even duplicating Mario-style scrolling, meaning PC gaming was more adventure games and CRPGs and stuff. if you had an action game, it would be stiff and slow and uglier than even an NES. the Indiana Jones games were a good demonstration of this. PC gaming was still in the stone age.
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What? No, you are completely wrong. The IBM PC was bad at platformers but was great for adventures, RPG, simulations, 3D games and strategy.
 
Futaleufu said:
I dont pay much attention to Rogan because sometimes he talks a lot of nonsense but I will try to watch the Carmack episode.



What? No, you are completely wrong. The IBM PC was bad at platformers but was great for adventures, RPG, simulations, 3D games and strategy.
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I think they are referring to some of the older 8-bit computers of the day like c64, that couldn't do the scrolling as well.

I remember reading that Carmack was able to recreate super mario bros with the scrolling and they even pitched a pc port to Nintendo.

Iffy memory but it's something like that.
 
John Carmack is in really good physical shape in his older years. He looks like he has been working out.

Shad0w59 said:
What do you know, Joe actually knows his shit.
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I dunno. Joe Rogan doing the best he can. But when Carmack started talking about the importance of releasing the source codes and how it has given the fan communities more control over the fate ID's classic games. Rogan's response was something like: "Yeah, it's amazing the levels these people make. I downloaded a map that looks like somebodies room."

But I think Joe Rogan does look at little dumbfounded when Carmack speaks at times. But then again, who doesn't when Carmack starts talking about technical things? Still, Joe Rogan is doing pretty well with this interview.

This is great exposure for John Carmack. People are going to be watching this video for years. It is also great to see a legend like Carmack get more exposure from non-gamer audiences.

Joe Rogan's podcast has a pretty robust demographic. You have the MMA people, people who like stand-up comedy, the conspiracy people, political people, or anyone who likes watching long-form interviews. Also, the people who are pulled in through random recommendations.
 
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BLAUcopter said:
Pity that other site doesn't allow any discussion relating to JRE podcasts. So much for it being a gaming forum lol.
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Really? What's the reasoning for this one? I don't watch much of the JRE, I just pick and choose based on the gusts. The last JRE podcast that I watched from start to finish was the one with Bob Lazar. But, from what I can tell, Joe Rogan seems pretty neutral when it comes to 'politics'. Plus Joe Rogan brings guests on from every walk of life. he could have Alex Jones on the show, or Bernie Sanders. Like I said earlier, Rogan seems to have a robust viewership.
 
People like to make fun of Joe's intellect, I personally find someone who is interested in listening and learning to be a more valuable trait than someone who thinks they know everything.
 
JCK75 said:
People like to make fun of Joe's intellect, I personally find someone who is interested in listening and learning to be a more valuable trait than someone who thinks they know everything.
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Pretty much, his Graham Hancock ones are awesome
 
Carmack has this weird ability to provide you with context and prerequisite knowledge while explaining something, so even when you don't fully understand the technical aspect he's talking about, you still come away understanding why it matters and you can still grasp the overall point.

Maybe that's why he's so long-winded. He knows he has to put in some more setup so people who aren't in his line of work can understand wtf he's getting at.
 
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