SleepDoctor
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Im about halfway through and enjoying the story. Gameplay tho, isn't anything special.
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Im about halfway through and enjoying the story. Gameplay tho, isn't anything special.
BlackM1st
Banned
I completely forgot H story and characters. Not a good sign. Game is nothing more than an eye candy 4 me. "MC is fugly". That's the only thing I remember. Oh, and that cool futuristic costume being totally wasted design wise and being given to you the very moment before the final fight. Ugh.
geordiemp
Member
The desperation of some xbox fans to find anything to troll ps5 and sony amazes me, not just the triviality but the stupidity of the logic never ceases to amaze me.
nowhat
Member
He was the narrative director - you can bet the narrative is done way before the game (or individual story points even) is completed. So, pretty impossible to tell how complete the game is at this point.
Vaelka
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MiyazakiHatesKojima
Banned
OP is Phil Spencer's brother-in-law
ZywyPL
Banned
That's how IT works in general, if you know how to code you can code anything, work for anyone, in every branch not just video games. It's like racing drivers switching between not only different teams but different race types/organizations like F1, WRC, WTCC and so on, they just know how to drive fast, that's their skill, and can do it for anyone with big enough wallet. Not to mention people simply burn out by working on the same title years after years after years - HZD was in the works for almost a decade, dunno at what point he joined it, but imagine working on a single game for half a decade or so, only to get ordered to work on the same game again afterwards, which will take another half a decade... Even Kojima eventually got sick and tired of making MGS. And I think we will see many such departures in the future from a single-title studios like Coalition, Studio Santa Monica etc. from highly positioned personas, simply because they'll need a breath of fresh air and work on something completely new, to let loose their creativity.
Aion002
Member
That's rude!Your dick is extremely boring
Maybe?
I don't know.... Boring is fine.... Could be worse.....
I agree that the gameplay against humans is meh and travelling is ok....But fighting against machines is awesome and the world is great. While the story to me was so uninteresting that every time someone started talking I was:
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Sygma
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'Horizon Zero Dawn' Wins Writers Guild Award For Best Video Game Writing
'Horizon Zero Dawn' takes home another well deserved award.
www.forbes.com
To you maybe
Aion002
Member
'Horizon Zero Dawn' Wins Writers Guild Award For Best Video Game Writing
'Horizon Zero Dawn' takes home another well deserved award.
To you maybe
Sure! For me.
Everything I post is about my opinion and my personal taste. If my opinion was the universal truth Way of the Samurai 2 would have an MC score of 95 while Skyrim would have an MC score of 20 or something.
Elder Legend
Banned
No, the plot is not done, the narrative direction will forever be stuck since the day he left and the game will ship with an unfinished story. /s
diffusionx
Gold Member
I thought HZD's story was excellent but I don't think it is something that this one guy is uniquely capable of.
Jon Neu
Banned
Fix'd.
I didn't know there was a Barcelona based Studio doing an AAA game.
Really looking forward to it.
GymWolf
Member
Well, time to grab my pitchfork and fly to amsterdam
recursive
Member
Please do. I would love to read your analysis.
hyperbertha
Member
Aloy/Shepard survived a disastrous event (the Proving/Akuze incident) and is chosen by the Matriarchs/Citadel Council to become the Seeker/Spectre, a title that grants special rights, extra freedom and immunity from the more mundane laws of the society.
Aloy/Shepard discover Helis/Saren are mere pawns of a far more ancient foe called Hades/Sovereign that has simply appealed to Helis/Saren's ideals by saying what they want to hear and are using them to amass the power and armies (Eclipse/Geth) required to carry out its plans.
Further investigation and tips from allies lead Aloy/Shepard to the Old one Hologram/Prothean Beacon and learn where they need to go next and understand what caused the extinction i.e the Faro Plague/Reapers.
Aloy/Shepard thus head to All-Mother Mountain/Ilos Prothean Facility and meets an ancient AI called Gaia/Vigil which was created by the Old ones/Protheans with the task of guiding the new races and preventing them from making the same mistakes that caused extinction.
The Zero Dawn Scientists\Prothean Ilos Scientists survived the extinction and sacrificed themselves in order to aid the future races against the Faro Plague/Reapers. Gaia/Vigil explains that in order to prevent another extinction, Hades/Sovereign must be stopped from getting to the Spire/Citadel Relay, which is its true goal.
The Spire/Citadel Relay is an ancient artifact that reactivates and recalls the dormant Faro Plague/Reapers and thus triggers the extinction event all over again.
Using help from multiple Tribes/Races and allies gathered throughout their mission, Aloy/Shepard is able to kill or convince Helis/Saren and stop Hades/Sovereign once and for all.
Aloy/Shepard discover Helis/Saren are mere pawns of a far more ancient foe called Hades/Sovereign that has simply appealed to Helis/Saren's ideals by saying what they want to hear and are using them to amass the power and armies (Eclipse/Geth) required to carry out its plans.
Further investigation and tips from allies lead Aloy/Shepard to the Old one Hologram/Prothean Beacon and learn where they need to go next and understand what caused the extinction i.e the Faro Plague/Reapers.
Aloy/Shepard thus head to All-Mother Mountain/Ilos Prothean Facility and meets an ancient AI called Gaia/Vigil which was created by the Old ones/Protheans with the task of guiding the new races and preventing them from making the same mistakes that caused extinction.
The Zero Dawn Scientists\Prothean Ilos Scientists survived the extinction and sacrificed themselves in order to aid the future races against the Faro Plague/Reapers. Gaia/Vigil explains that in order to prevent another extinction, Hades/Sovereign must be stopped from getting to the Spire/Citadel Relay, which is its true goal.
The Spire/Citadel Relay is an ancient artifact that reactivates and recalls the dormant Faro Plague/Reapers and thus triggers the extinction event all over again.
Using help from multiple Tribes/Races and allies gathered throughout their mission, Aloy/Shepard is able to kill or convince Helis/Saren and stop Hades/Sovereign once and for all.
These are only the major plot points in the story, but I can go even further into the details if you are not convinced yet, and they also play out in the exact same way. Its too much to be a coincidence.
Fbh
Member
A shame, hopefully they can get someone skilled to replace him.
I really enjoyed the world and plot of HDZ and, maybe more importantly, it was a massive step up in writing and Storytelling for Guerilla. Killzone had a nice backstory but the actual plot in the games was trash.
For videogame standards? Sure.
I really enjoyed the world and plot of HDZ and, maybe more importantly, it was a massive step up in writing and Storytelling for Guerilla. Killzone had a nice backstory but the actual plot in the games was trash.
For videogame standards? Sure.
Entroyp
Member
10/10 for me. It got me hunting for the audio devices and vantage points so I could learn a bit more about how things went to shit so fast.
Plus I watched all the videos from that YouTube channel that specializes in HZD lore.
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nowhat
Member
The vantage points are the only collectible I can recall in a long time where there was actually a point to collecting them, the backstory behind them is quite interesting (and harrowing).
Just make sure you read the full text log, the audio snippet you get automatically is just a small part of it.
Entroyp
Member
Yup, I did. I read the whole text files from the audio recordings as well. The story reminded me to the matrix a lot, but with a very interesting twist.
Tomeru
Member
Thats the most I've seen any butcher a story ever. There is much more nuance to both games, and one friggin' huge difference between the two that makes it very much not a rip off.
And ME2 is my favorite game of all time (well, one of my top 3). I fucking baught 3 copies of ME3 (one normal for ps3, one CE, and one for pc). Boy was I taught a lesson there.
Anyway, most of these similarities are universal to most plots of this type. HZD managed to be as fresh as it got, and I really can't tell why you think one is a ripoff of the other. I seriously can't.
A major point of difference is that in one game mankind brought extinction on themselves, while in the other its a race of highly advanced space race. How can you say both are the same?
Vawn
Banned
Yes. I naturally assumed a game about robot dinosaurs would have a throw-away story (which would have been ok), but the story was actually a really cool sci-fi armageddon story.
Lionel Richie
Member
Good, the story was absolutely atrocious.
Joshmyersbv
Member
I remember the thread of when they hired him. I'm pretty a lot of people praised this move because of the story he worked on in New Vegas. Having played Horizon, the story really wasn't that good. A lot of that had to do with the boring ass characters.
yurinka
Member
Smilegate is a new one, they're opening it, I just realized they were here.
There's other AAA studio: Ubisoft Barcelona (AC Vallhalla, BGE2, R6S...), who are moving/recently moved from Sant Cugat to a 4000m2 office in the Telefonica tower, next to Fòrum de Barcelona. It's the white building next to the Primavera Sound entrance.
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