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Jonathan Pie goes in on Theresa May / Tories
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Is there video of this?YEAH BUT JEREMYY CORBYN DIDNT SING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM.
But seriously, when Corbyn drills David Cameron on the NHS in PMQs, and Cameron only need to tell Cornyn to do up his tie as an answer for why the Tories are fucking up the NHS, then of course were fucked.
Corbyn: Stop fucking up the NHS. People need it to survive.
Cameron: Tuck in your shirt and do up your tie.
The country's reaction:
Infact that's literally all UK politics is right now.
Someone calls out the government for being shitty. The Tories say some shit like "strong and stable or "your clothes are of low quality" and that's basically all that's required of them to have no accountability for ANYTHING. The papers, the radio shows, the TV news will all parrot the diss instead of talk about how all the prime minister had to say about his dismantling of the NHS was that Corbyns shirt was untucked.
People are stupid as fuck.
It's gutter trash though. He just says his piece and runs away.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....om-the-script-with-corbyn-do-up-your-tie-jibe
Daffy Duck
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Wow, that was spot on.
The hilarious thing is too the sheeple of the country eat it up too.
The hilarious thing is too the sheeple of the country eat it up too.
And the May-lovers rear their face again.
Royal_Phalanx
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And this fucking country will just reelect them.
Green Yoshi
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He wouldn't be the first European politician this year who will have beaten a woman that wants to leave the European Union. ;-)
TheRealTalker
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blah with anything to do with Corbyn
the extreme left sometimes merges with the extreme right when it comes to foreign diplomacy (even though he tries to hide it as much as possible)
screw the Putin stooge
the extreme left sometimes merges with the extreme right when it comes to foreign diplomacy (even though he tries to hide it as much as possible)
screw the Putin stooge
As opposed to Theresa May who wants to get in bed with Trump and therefore Russia as we won't have anyone else to trade with.
You're also ignoring that Jeremy Corbyn has been left wing and stood for the same policies since long before Putin was in power.
TheRealTalker
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You just need to follow the dudes trail to see were he stands.
May is bad as well but literally Corbyn will sell out Nato, UKs allies and anything else to please his "anti imperialism" agenda which in reality is just wanting Russia to do whatever it wants while everyone else has to sit back and take it.
Look at the "stop the war coalition" to see some hypocrisy or Corbyn's silence and secret love for the Leave campaign.
His politics has holes in it, usually individuals that overly root for the guy have some simple assumptions that the dude is all for rainbows and unicorns but he basically aligns himself with similar foreign views as alt right or alt left stooges of Putin.
He tries to cover it up too with his ambiguous blabber of negotiation and peace via certain means but you just need to research a bit of his so called approach and would notice it is a impossible endeavor were Russia has complete and utter control (via vetoes, military build up, policy, etc...).
He is a sell out and he actually really doesn't care about innocents as much as he thinks he does. A big ass hypocrite, genocide supporter of Bashar al Assad, anti EU and overall stooge.
31GhostsIV
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That's weird, I was at Hyde Park that day. I have no recollection of Corbyn being there and giving this speech though. I was probably hungover.
MadJackChurchill
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Corbyn. Extreme left. sensiblechuckle.gif.
The severe amount of horseshoeing here is making my head spin.
And who are the 'alt left'? People that don't want 4 more years of Blair/Thatcher-with-100-extra-quid-a-month?
31GhostsIV
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Apparently it's so easy to see what Corbyn 'is really about' that there was no need for the poster to leave sources for any of his claims.
Maybe it's FAKE NEWS!
31GhostsIV
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Nah, I was probably hung over. I caught up with old friends from uni the night before, then we did the march the next day. I was not feeling my best. I was probably thinking more along the lines of where could I buy some painkillers and/or a salt-ridden KFC than the people talking on stage.
Spuck-uk
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/r/iamverysmart beckons
Spuck-uk
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YEAH BUT JEREMYY CORBYN DIDNT SING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM.
But seriously, when Corbyn drills David Cameron on the NHS in PMQs, and Cameron only need to tell Cornyn to do up his tie as an answer for why the Tories are fucking up the NHS, then of course were fucked.
Corbyn: Stop fucking up the NHS. People need it to survive.
Cameron: Tuck in your shirt and do up your tie.
The country's reaction:
Infact that's literally all UK politics is right now.
Someone calls out the government for being shitty. The Tories say some shit like "strong and stable or "your clothes are of low quality" and that's basically all that's required of them to have no accountability for ANYTHING. The papers, the radio shows, the TV news will all parrot the diss instead of talk about how all the prime minister had to say about his dismantling of the NHS was that Corbyns shirt was untucked.
People are stupid as fuck.
You forgot the bit where the Lib Dems frantically look around for the latest policy of the week to flail about in the hope that everyone has forgiven their treachery.
Spuck-uk
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Corbyn is a social democrat. Sadly the Tories, Lib Dems and papers have been allowed to paint him as the second coming of Lenin*
*I mean, in a bad way.
I'd like to see any circumstance where the return of Lenin is good.
TheRealTalker
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people's characters can change
I am talking about the current Stop the War coalition and its one sided views
As if criticizing Corbyn and what he became by default means that you are a supporter of Blair and Thatcher
everything has to be one sided with some people
Spuck-uk
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Ascendency of the monarchy to direct power again.
MadJackChurchill
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Bring Ed Miliband back again? What other milque toast rubbish is there? Who could possibly contend? Owen Jones? Corbyn is absolutely far from perfect, and is stuck in a 70's socialism mentality, but how does the left ever expect to be in power again with the same old schtick that pissed off the common worker a decade ago? More drastic change is needed. At least Corbyn is that.
Also please explain to me how getting rid of Trident is "selling out Nato" when our next door neighbour has superior nukes to us, and is also apart of Nato?
The British Parliament??
TheRealTalker
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This future election is shitty all around but placing bets on the overall Future of the Left on Corbyn is a poor choice.
Also his foreign policy circle is far from pleasing
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Stop the war coalition
https://twitter.com/TehmoorKhalid/status/850388943422070784
https://twitter.com/STWuk/status/850284504619118592
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...kad-stop-the-war_uk_58e7e78be4b058f0a02f1c89?
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...ghting-for-syrians-russia-assad-a7461316.html
Corbyn on US attack on Airbases in Syria
http://uk.businessinsider.com/labour-jeremy-corbyn-us-missile-attack-assad-syria-2017-4
Corbyn saying we need a political settlement via the UN for Syria and a invisitagation on proving who used chemical weapons
https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/857554698299166721
Same political settlement that is barred by Russia
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...ted-nations-investigation-of-syria-gas-attack
Corbyn on Brexit: UK can be better off out of the EU
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-better-off-out-of-eu-with-managed-migration
Jeremy Corbyn Says Nato Should ‘Demilitarise' Its Border With Putin's Russia
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...ith-putins-russia_uk_58286811e4b0ec3145f89573
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Either he is overly gullable or he is fine with everything around the world entering the shitter as long as he is able to do what he wants to do in the UK. His views would be fine if the world wasn't escalating as much as it was right now, in which we can't afford to weaken our collective international whole while some NEO cold war like scenario is showing its fangs.
It is poor judgement and literally pushes politics to either extremes. Be it May or Corbyn.
I also wasn't arguing about Corbyn's views on Trident.
These "quick-witted" replies are what bothers me most about PMQs now. For the last few years, Labour has brought up important issues that are threatening country and the only thing we see in the media is how snarky the Tories replies were.
We should be seeing more of Labour backbenchers decimating the PM.
travisbickle
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I wouldn't mind an investigation into the Syrian gas attacks, and I'm not a stooge of Putin.
TheRealTalker
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No one would but literally everyone in the UN tried to do it but Russia who claims via its media that they want an investigation literally veto any chance for it.
Corbyn knows this but he never criticizes Assad and he always repeats the same nonsense over and over again without stating as to why it is impossible.
Again either he is super gullible or has some other motive.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
Spot on. The UK is so fucked 
MadJackChurchill
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Your argument seems to be centred around a world police conception of international relations and is pretty absolutist. "Don't condemn a regime whom you have no connection with? You're clearly in support of them!" What good is that going to do for a country already in coalition with the US and selling bombs to, Saudi Arabia? The current position is already strongly anti-Assad.
Wanting to talk both sides down and enable dialogue with a hand-over process, in the presence of the international community, isn't inherently pro-Assad. Notice also how the Independent puts a spin of "Assad is the only one murdering civilians"
Will just leave this here: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...nsoura-human-rights-observatory-a7642781.html
STWC doesn't have a global presence, are you going to argue that Quakers sabotaging RAF jets are 'pro-Assad' because they don't do the same to his MiG's? I don't think so.
With you on the silencing of Syrians though. It should be their battle, and they should be given the mic. It affects them much more than you, I or STWC, and they were primary witnesses to the situation on the ground a few years ago.
TheRealTalker
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A) I am only propping a more level headed approach to global politics since Russia itself is being aggressive and we have no time to try some lax approach with things as that would not only prove pointless but will also currently weaken our allies as a whole.
B) I am also not saying to go guns blazing without any objectives or reasoning but instead actually countering Russia aggression with strategic moves that will isolate and hold back Russia.
Yes you can do this without triggering WW3 like every single random person usually fears. Yes you can do it without attacking civilian areas, like the attack on Assad airbases.
The link you gave me about US airstrikes in Raqqa doesn't even have to do with anything that I am talking about since that is the US fighting against ISIS with the YPG, not Assad or attacking Assad regime forces, rather ironically the YPG currently is allied with Assad and Putin against Turkish supported FSA.
Assad is literally the main enemy to the Syrian people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/...rocities-civilian-deaths-gas-attack.html?_r=0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War#Government_forces
My approach is again containment of future civilian causalities, and also building up/ supporting Nato defense and preventing Russian build up and influence in multiple regions.
Russia can't afford to continually poor money into a front that will have no end, especially if their equipment that they give to Assad is destroyed and they are further squeezed.
Putin's goal with Syria is to make a bargain chip to further is ambitions and to also free him from Sanctions in the future.
C) You can do the above without tossing cash to Saudi Arabia, etc...
This wanting to "talk both sides down and enable dialogue with a hand-over process" has failed as shown countless times in the UN, the talks in Turkey and the current Astana talks.
Russia and its allies clearly don't want to negotiate and only use it to re-stock, and resupply arms and militias.
The Syria war ended a long time ago from being a civil war but to a proxy battle like Ukraine.
D) The anti war coalition hasn't protested against Russian crimes and Assad massacres but get up in arms when people attack a airbase?
Either they are blind or have morphed into some distorted Russian tool, unfortunately.
User Name Here
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So the Tories are the UK's Republicans I see. Everything sounds like it's going to shit based on what he said. I mean... Wow.
travisbickle
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The Stop the War coalition has always been about, and will always be about, stopping the UK, and by extension its allies, from committing to continued war and conflict.
They're a political movement to pressure the UK government, not a hippy movement to protest all countries in conflict.
They're a political movement to pressure the UK government, not a hippy movement to protest all countries in conflict.
Spuck-uk
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Closer to your Democrats, very much in bed with big business. They, and bear in mind I HATE the Tories, legalised gay marriage in their administration, which is something the Republicans would never support.
European politics skews more the the left than the US
gutter_trash
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his post November 8 rant was the most anoying thing that I ever watched that month
nope, I went to watch GotG2.
nelsonroyale
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What about actually critiquing what he says? It seems like you aren't sufficiently level headed to look at content, so you just dismiss what he says based on historical positions that you disgree with, and characterise in a rather dubious way anyway. I mean from the way you articulate, your own bias comes through even stronger than his position.
Real Talk:...many broad brush strokes. The civil war is still on going, it is just highly fragmented.
IrishNinja
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wait, wasn't this the same dude who gave that weak rant about why trump got elected? if so, pass
He has, but god forbid you do the bare minimum of research before shitposting.
IrishNinja
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yup, that sounds exactly like the dude/video i had in mind - standing by my hard pass
Zvonimir Boban
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Nah he had some great points in the Trump vid, many liberals don't like to put the blame on themselves in any way of course.
Dirtyshubb
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While i do think a lot of blame should go to the right, a portion does also belong to some of the left.
Once it was down to Hillary and Trump the only real option was to vote for Hillary. Before that point though the only decision that would have not only worked (IMHO) but also moved the US more to the left was to vote for Bernie. Those who criticised him for his lack of recognition or that wouldn't vote for him because they thought Hillary was a better candidate are the ones who deserve some blame too. Polling at the time showed that Bernie was more popular than Trump by quite a margin yet for some reason lots of people though that going with the historically tainted and unliked candidate that at best matched Trump but more often than not lost to his in polls was the better choice.
People say that things would be different during the campaign if it was Bernie vs Trump with them throwing words like communist around to put people off but that wouldn't have worked. Bernie ran on a campaign very similar to Trump, Sanders focused on actual policy about how he would help the majority of Americans giving specific examples of what he would do and Trump merely promised he would help with more references to policy than Clinton had.
Trump wouldn't have been able to fight Bernie with the same tactics as he did Clinton, many times he was basically calling for the same things Bernie was so you cant go up against someone who agrees with you and call them out for being shit as it weakens your own argument.
Finally with regards to his recognition, if he had the same backing as Clinton he would be even higher than he is now with his likeability rating (most popular politician in America right now) so it wouldnt have been a problem.
Those people Pie references share a little blame too of course, but the 2 biggest ones to blame are the Republicans and corporate democrats and their followers. People wanted a change, not the same old thing. Only 2 people came across as something different and now one of them is the president and the other is the most popular politician in the country.
Still not answering my question.
Personally, I loved his post nov 8 rant because I agreed with him at almost everything.
Pretty much agree with all of this.
I think it touched some nerves lol.