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Jurassic World Official Trailer

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Guy.brush said:
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It won't be like this, or will it? Not like this.
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I just see it as Chris Pratt riding with a pack of dogs...swinging with monkeys looks ridiculous no matter how you look at it.
 
Lys Skygge said:
I just see it as Chris Pratt riding with a pack of dogs...swinging with monkeys looks ridiculous no matter how you look at it.
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Dogs that were the main villains in part 1-3 ?
I get that they wanted to get that "boy and his pet dinos" demographic, but why use raptors for it?
 
Neverwas said:
i think some of you are just dead inside. Raptor Squad is going to be baller.
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Yeah, how the fuck did like 4 people compare it to monkeys swinging in Crystal Skull on the first couple pages of this thread?

Those are MONKEYS. With Shia LeBoeuf. On VINES.

These are RAPTORS. With Chris Pratt's moustache. On a MOTORBIKE.

One I can forgive, one I can't.
 
My rule concerning movie trailers that has very rarely, if ever, let me down is this:

The better the trailer, the worse the movie.

The worse the trailer, the better the movie.

This is not an ironclad rule, but it has served me well. Whenever I see a movie trailer that has me going, "OMGBBQ!!" I tread carefully.

Whenever a movie trailer for a movie that I have at least a passing interest in has me going, "Yawn," I tend to go into the movie with a lot more openness.

This rule started with Three Kings, actually. Terrible trailer. Loved the movie. From that point on, I started carefully observing my own personal ratio between how many movies I was interested in that had weak trailers ended up being great movies, and how many movies had amazing trailers that ended up being weak movies.

This year, my theory was proven by X-Men: Days of Future Past. Not a single trailer had me interested in that movie, and then I saw it in the theaters, and loved the movie to death. Rewatched it again on Blu Ray, and, yup, still loved it.

The Jurassic World trailer was decent. Nothing to get me excited, but nothing to make me roll my eyes in boredom either. I'm expecting the movie to be entertaining as a result.
 
Busty said:
It's too early to make such a definitive statement either way given that this is just the first trailer for the film.

But we can say that within the context of the trailer that shot with Pratt is cringe worthy.
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That's a subjective statement. We can't even tell if the raptors are running with him or simply beside him/away from something. As you said it's too early to say.

But the fact is he's simply riding a motorbike, which is no way as insane as some randomass dude managing to Tarzan swing through a bunch of conveniently placed vines
 
Figboy79 said:
My rule concerning movie trailers that has very rarely, if ever, let me down is this:

The better the trailer, the worse the movie.

The worse the trailer, the better the movie.

This is not an ironclad rule, but it has served me well. Whenever I see a movie trailer that has me going, "OMGBBQ!!" I tread carefully.

Whenever a movie trailer for a movie that I have at least a passing interest in has me going, "Yawn," I tend to go into the movie with a lot more openness.

This rule started with Three Kings, actually. Terrible trailer. Loved the movie. From that point on, I started carefully observing my own personal ratio between how many movies I was interested in that had weak trailers ended up being great movies, and how many movies had amazing trailers that ended up being weak movies.

This year, my theory was proven by X-Men: Days of Future Past. Not a single trailer had me interested in that movie, and then I saw it in the theaters, and loved the movie to death. Rewatched it again on Blu Ray, and, yup, still loved it.

The Jurassic World trailer was decent. Nothing to get me excited, but nothing to make me roll my eyes in boredom either. I'm expecting the movie to be entertaining as a result.
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That is probably the best guide to seeing movies. Typically for me if I get too hyped for the movie thanks to amazing trailers it will turn out to be shit. The exception to that rule has been Batman movies and Guardians of the Galaxy.
 
Looks dumb to me but I was wrong about Guardians of the Galaxy so what do I know. Pratt obviously is on to something.

I liked the nod to the original score at the end, though.
 
Guy.brush said:
Dogs that were the main villains in part 1-3 ?
I get that they wanted to get that "boy and his pet dinos" demographic, but why use raptors for it?
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Raptors really weren't the villains at all in 3 in the traditional sense. If anything Humans were the villains being hunted by a bigger villain in the Spinosaur. The Raptors just wanted their Eggs back. Which greatly expanded on the concept that these things are super smart
 
Guy.brush said:
Dogs that were the main villains in part 1-3 ?
I get that they wanted to get that "boy and his pet dinos" demographic, but why use raptors for it?
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They were never villains, in any of the movies. The humans were pretty much always the villains in the movies. Raptors were supposed to be carnivores that were just acting "naturally" and hunting, although JP gave them a cool but unfair "sinister" undertone and behavior.

Lys Skygge said:
I just see it as Chris Pratt riding with a pack of dogs...swinging with monkeys looks ridiculous no matter how you look at it.
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This.

Even the first movie established that there is a kind of Alpha, or leader, of the group. This movie is set, what? 20 years after Jurassic Park? Jurassic World opened in 2005. There is plenty of time for someone to have spent time studying raptor behavior and/or having raised some from birth on his own.

Neverwas said:
i think some of you are just dead inside. Raptor Squad is going to be baller.
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I said it before, but I'm betting that I'll care more about the well-being of the raptors than any of the humans.
 
Maybe I'm missing something that you guys have already brought up today, but I took the last scene to be Pratt and the Velos all running away from the apex predator together. Like we don't dig humans (still), but this other shit is way more threatening so let's all bounce.
 
Guy.brush said:
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It won't be like this, or will it? Not like this.
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Are you seriously trying to say that JW is as ridiculous as that scene? Because it's not, at all

For one it makes sense. Pratt's speciality in the movie is studying raptor behavior, a non-violent raptor that are friendly to humans was in the books, and we have trained animals like lions, bears, and chimps to act in movies. Hell, people have even lived with tigers and bears in their homes and kept cheetahs as pets

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Two, raptors have been shown to be extremely smart. Enough to set ambushes and learn how to open doors. Why couldn't they be trained and domesticated?

Three, there have been real cases of animals raising and accepting humans
http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=80914&page=1#.UIWu_mk6XwF
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...6797/Real-life-Mowgli-kept-alive-by-cats.html
So the idea of a group of raptors, perhaps even trained by birth, to be docile and treating a human as their pack leader, isn't even that farfetched. It actually could make a lot of sense if portrayed well in the film

And that Indy scene was stupid for so many reasons. Fuck physics, stupid CGI monkeys, CGI Shia swinging through the trees like a cartoon.

Come on, let's be real now
 
Watched it again...

Such a weeiiirrd f'ing trailer. Like, it just seems like that's all they had and threw it out there just beat another certain trailer that everyone is looking forward to.
Seriously, there's nothing to it.

"Jurassic World..... it exists"
 
More_Badass said:
Are you seriously trying to say that JW is as ridiculous as that scene? Because it's not, at all

For one it makes sense. Pratt's speciality in the movie is studying raptor behavior, a non-violent raptor that are friendly to humans was in the books, and we have trained animals like lions, bears, and chimps to act in movies. Hell, people have even lived with tigers and bears in their homes and kept cheetahs as pets

Two, raptors have been shown to be extremely smart. Enough to set ambushes and learn how to open doors. Why couldn't they be trained and domesticated?
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I don't have a problem with the concept. I have a problem with the execution.., in the trailer.

It looks utterly ridiculous.
 
What is making people say that he has tamed the Raptors?

I thought it was clear that they both must have been running from the Hybrid dinosaur, hence they're not interested in munching him, they're more interested in bailing and saving their own arses.
 
Dingotech said:
What is making people say that he has tamed the Raptors?

I thought it was clear that they both must have been running from the Hybrid dinosaur, hence they're not interested in munching him, they're more interested in bailing and saving their own arses.
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There was a leaked scene of Pratt telling the raptors to back off and they listen
 
aFIGurANT said:
Maybe I'm missing something that you guys have already brought up today, but I took the last scene to be Pratt and the Velos all running away from the apex predator together. Like we don't dig humans (still), but this other shit is way more threatening so let's all bounce.
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Then what is the scene showing that gates opening and letting the raptors out?
 
Dingotech said:
What is making people say that he has tamed the Raptors?

I thought it was clear that they both must have been running from the Hybrid dinosaur, hence they're not interested in munching him, they're more interested in bailing and saving their own arses.
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The plot details came out a while ago about Pratt's team of raptors.
 
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VFX artist here.

To those making comments about the quality of the CG critters in this trailer — and to anyone who has ever wondered how it's possible for the original Jurassic Park to have had such awesome CG, while [insert some more-recent movie] didn't — those are both interesting observations, and here's the deal with both.

First of all, it's important to remember that the further we are from releasing the movie, the further the VFX are from completion. Early trailers and commercials will always feature VFX that aren't "done," because our target for delivery is like six months from now, and our team doesn't find out for sure which VFX shots they're going to need for the ad campaign until... hold on... juuuuuuust about the moment they need those shots right this fucking second oh my god.

Papers get thrown, people run down hallways, it's a whole Broadcast News thing.

So, we take whatever work is done on one of those shots, save off a copy, and rush a quick alternate version to completion. Maybe the animation is final, but the comp isn't. Maybe nothing is final. Maybe everything is final, but later someone changes their mind and adds another thing to the shot. Whatevs. We give them Some Version of the shot — complete with, like, color and everything, it's super official — and they release the trailer, and we go back and keep workin' on it like we were already doin.' This is how you end up with comparison albums featuring, for instance, the difference between trailer and movie VFX for Guardians of the Galaxy. Happens all the time.

As for the more general complaint that I hear a lot — "but, we were able to make everything photoreal in Jurassic Park in 1993, what gives?" — there's a lot that gives. It's complicated.

Aside from utilizing a whole slew of fairly basic (albeit smart) tricks that make it easier to look photoreal, Jurassic Park also had a few things going for it, historically speaking.

As a thing to attempt doing, it was more or less unprecedented. Just a ton of work, a ton of question marks, unforeseen innovations were certain to be required, and custom scripts and software would have to be written. They knew what it had to look like, but they didn't know exactly how to get there. Their target was a look. They'd know it when they saw it.

So, they started hammering away at it. There wasn't even a solid optimism that it was possible to pull off so much CG, at that level of quality, at that point in time — much less an absolute goddamned foregone conclusion that obviously it's possible to do twenty times as much CG at that level of quality — and so they benefited, a bit, from the exploratory nature of it. As far as executives and producers and studios and expectations go, the attempt to make that first CG dinosaur movie was akin to Apollo 11. "Oh god, I hope this is fucking possible."

When it actually worked, it was an accomplishment.

That was the context for that CG work. These days, the context for the CG in, like, The Avengers, is akin to Southwest Flight 782, service from Oakland to Burbank. "Oh god, I hope I'll be able to rent a red car when I obviously make it to Burbank."

It became "obvious" (to the higher-ups) that we could do CG VFX. The process got figured out, the pipelines established, the groundwork laid, the procedures sorted... and now, the process of arriving at the end of the VFX process is seen as the goal. First you do your story art, then you do your modeling, then you do your layout, then you do your animation and sims, then you do your comp, then you render out the result. "That's how ya do it." Once the process is complete, your VFX are complete. Congratulations, let's move on to the next movie.

The problem — and distinction — is that, remember, Jurassic Park's goal was a look. They didn't know what the process would be, but they'd know it when they saw it. Now the goal is, largely, a process. Finish the process.

Are we capable of delivering CG at the level of quality you see in Jurassic Park? Fucking absolutely. (And, "duh," quite frankly. Most movies with big CG setpieces are actually at that level of quality.) When that doesn't happen, these days, it's because we're working under a very different set of limitations. For instance, way, way, way more shots, way more complex shots, way harder shots, an atmosphere of assumed possibility, a wee bit of studio apathy, less-and-less money, higher-and-higher rez, stereoscopic delivery... and, uh, not to put too fine a point on it... not much of a premium being placed on quality of life for the artists. (That's a whole separate thing.)

In addition to that, like I said a few paragraphs ago, Jurassic Park also (smartly) utilized a handful of tricks to make life easier. In CG, realistic shiny things are easier than realistic matte things, so they made the T-Rex wet. They did the T-Rex scene at night. They did a tremendous number of hand-offs between the CG Tippet critters and the practical Winston critters. Not to mention, there's way fewer CG shots in that movie than you're probably remembering, and on and on.

So. Yeah, it was twenty years ago, but they were also climbin' a different mountain.

Now, it's important to note that Jurassic Park deserves every bit of the VFX credit it gets. (That Gallimimus sequence blows my mind.) It's outstanding work, it stands the test of time, it's great — I know I'm basically saying, "yeah, good job with the fucking Coliseum, you guys, you scrappy group of rag-tag weirdos," but. I want to make sure it's clear that I'm not throwing shade at Jurassic Park. I love Jurassic Park.

But, for being a trip to the moon with nothing but a tin can and a calculator — sorry, I'm very analogy-heavy this morning — for being just this impossible thing, it also managed to avoid some of the pitfalls of the modern CG experience. Expectations, mostly. Different flavors of expectations, at different points along the line. Being the first to do a very hard thing well isn't easy. For that matter, neither is being the 6000th to do a very hard thing well, when people are totally unimpressed with the assumption that you can do a very hard thing well. Like "come on, knock it out. We're on a schedule here."

Not that they weren't on a schedule, but. You know what I mean. I've rambled on long enough.

tl:dr — trailer VFX are often a work in progress, and Jurassic Park's CG was incredible, but arguably managed to benefit from "pioneer" culture, and set out to clear a bar much lower than we typically deal with these days
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zma1013 said:
Then what is the scene showing that gates opening and letting the raptors out?
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My first thought was that that was an allusion to when the power went out in JP1 and all the dinos went free. Could it be that they're incorporating the same couple of plot points here with some minor differences?

Dalek said:
The plot details came out a while ago about Pratt's team of raptors.
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Well maybe I'll eat my words then.... The alternative (him hunting with raptors) does seem kind of lame given how we all grew up thinking the raptors were like these uber-demonoid things that were smart enough to enjoy hunting people.
 
Guy.brush said:
Dogs that were the main villains in part 1-3 ?
I get that they wanted to get that "boy and his pet dinos" demographic, but why use raptors for it?
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Because they are smart enough to be tamed in this fashion. What other dinosaur from the previous movies do you think would have been a more suitable choice? The fact that they were previously the villains doesn't mean much to me. At one point wolves would have been a villain to humans and yet here we are.

That actually makes perfect sense to me. Whether or not it will be handled well is another question but the idea of taming the raptors isn't an inherently stupid one.
 
I'm on the fence on whether or not this is going to be a good movie. It probably looks like it's going to be way more entertaining than JP3 at the very least, but I doubt there's any way it will top the first or second movies from the trailer footage.

I just rewatched the trilogy over the weekend. Remember in the first movie, the build-up to the raptors getting lose? How they were toted as the most dangerous, even over the T-Rex? How much tension was built up when it finally came to just the kids vs. the smartest dinosaurs on the island?

Yeah, Riding With Raptors looks cool as fuck, but it's clear there's not going to be any of that kind of tension in this movie.
 
Figboy79 said:
My rule concerning movie trailers that has very rarely, if ever, let me down is this:

The better the trailer, the worse the movie.

The worse the trailer, the better the movie.

This is not an ironclad rule, but it has served me well. Whenever I see a movie trailer that has me going, "OMGBBQ!!" I tread carefully.
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I'm gonna be fucking pissed if Fury Road sucks >:(
 
Look's decent, they still got a lot of time to fix up the CGI.

Highlights:

1. Steven Spielberg
2. DinoCroc
3. StarLord + Pack Of Raptors!
 
People saying the CG in the original looks better than this CG need to go back and watch the original again.

The Brachiosaurus looks like shit now.
 
What I liked about the trailer:

- It actually tries to take the step forward from the first movie that everyone wanted to see: the park idea being realized, being commercialized, and open. It's pretty cool to see that instead of the last two films where it was honestly the same idea repeated again and again: a small secretive group of people go to a remote place to take advantage of something that went wrong.

- The shark scene was cool.

Well, I guess that's about it. Everything else looks like it could be a competent but largely uninspired film which takes advantage of a dead franchise which was once well loved. I'll probably watch it, because fuck yeah dinosaurs, but I don't expect much from it.
 
Dingotech said:
Well per what I posted above I thought the Rapters and the guy on the bike were both running away from the Hybrid Dino rather than running together.
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Yup exactly. As I've said we don't have context for that scene, if they are running from Hybrid Dino then they're not gonna give a shit about going after Dinolord when something is trying to eat them
 
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