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Just caught my 14 year old smoking

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Zenith said:
Smoking reduces the elasticity of the skin and gives you saggy boobs.
Does not compute. If skin becomes non-elastic, boobs will keep tightly compressed, no?
(disclaimer: I neither own nor pretend to understand boobs).
Zeliard said:
Mockery will work. "It's time for dinner, rust-lung. Don't tax yourself coming down those stairs."
:lol awesome.
 
EliCash said:
You have a John Locke avatar. Take the carton of cigarettes off of her and tell her that she can ask for them back three times, and that you'll return them to her on the third time of asking.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

Thanks for the laugh.

Seriously though, having a 14 year old daughter is pure hell.

Everything that I ever did as a fuckwit dumbass shitstain of a teenager is coming back to haunt me in spades.

If I can get her through high school without having a baby, I'll do a victory dance on the roof of my house. I'm already starting to have conversations with her mom about putting her on birth control. A dad doesn't want to even think about his daughter having sex, but I'm not going to bury my head in the sand either. All I thought about at age 13,14,15,16,17....etc, was fucking anything with a female vagina and a pulse.
 
What are you gonna say when she catches you posting on GAF ?
;)

Good luck and remember kids Winners don't use drugs.
 
Whoompthereitis said:
You have to accept that they're gonna try everything. And smoking, man, hard to do anything about that.

Sorry to hear about it though.

Not every kid has to try everything. I certainly didn't. I've never done any kind of illegal drug, and while I have taken both tobacco and alcohol in moderation, I never did so before my 18th and 21st birthdays, respectively. Discipline, yo.

Of course, in my case I had the advantage of two united parents. In this situation your hands are somewhat tied as a father since you can't control what goes on in the other household. The best thing seems to already have been done: express disappointment and set clear boundaries for this behavior.
 
JeTmAn81 said:
Not every kid has to try everything. I certainly didn't. I've never done any kind of illegal drug, and while I have taken both tobacco and alcohol in moderation, I never did so before my 18th and 21st birthdays, respectively. Discipline, yo.

No, you're just a nerd.
 
I kinda want to be a parent, but in reality, I'm fearful of shit like this. My parents spanked me when I did something wrong. Granted they instilled dicipline in me when I was young. I can't give you any advice (hey I'm only 18 :lol ) but with the custody thing, any advice would fall on deaf ears. At least in the future, if she goes to shit, you can always tell her you warned her.
 
bill0527 said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol

Thanks for the laugh.

Seriously though, having a 14 year old daughter is pure hell.

Everything that I ever did as a fuckwit dumbass shitstain of a teenager is coming back to haunt me in spades.

If I can get her through high school without having a baby, I'll do a victory dance on the roof of my house. I'm already starting to have conversations with her mom about putting her on birth control. A dad doesn't want to even think about his daughter having sex, but I'm not going to bury my head in the sand either. All I thought about at age 13,14,15,16,17....etc, was fucking anything with a female vagina and a pulse.

Great. This is what I have to look forward to as a parent?
 
Fersis said:
Good luck and remember kids Winners don't use drugs.


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funkmastergeneral said:
No, you're just a nerd.

If being a nerd means you end up a well-adjusted, happy and healthy adult with no dependency or major mental issues, then count me in. Also, birds of a feather :)
 
FunkyPajamas said:
Does not compute. If skin becomes non-elastic, boobs will keep tightly compressed, no?
No. Elasticity as a property means that the material will hold/return to its original shape, me thinks.
 
FunkyPajamas said:
Does not compute. If skin becomes non-elastic, boobs will keep tightly compressed, no?
(disclaimer: I neither own nor pretend to understand boobs).

Sounds like you're thinking of "elastic" meaning "stretchy," whereas really it's the ability to snap back into place after being stretched (to behave like a rubber ball rather than clay).

Gravity is always pulling boobs down. If the skin isn't elastic enough, then gravity wins, and you get saggy boobs. If the skin is elastic enough, the skin wins, and you get awesome boobs.

It's science!
 
JeTmAn81 said:
If being a nerd means you end up a well-adjusted, happy and healthy adult with no dependency or major mental issues, then count me in. Also, birds of a feather :)
Amen brother. Hell, I still haven't tried smoking at 19 because I really just don't see the point. I have my own ways of dealing with stress, I hate the smell, and I don't want to support an addiction out of my pocket.
 
bill0527 said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol

Thanks for the laugh.

Seriously though, having a 14 year old daughter is pure hell.

Everything that I ever did as a fuckwit dumbass shitstain of a teenager is coming back to haunt me in spades.

If I can get her through high school without having a baby, I'll do a victory dance on the roof of my house. I'm already starting to have conversations with her mom about putting her on birth control. A dad doesn't want to even think about his daughter having sex, but I'm not going to bury my head in the sand either. All I thought about at age 13,14,15,16,17....etc, was fucking anything with a female vagina and a pulse.

Fuck man. I don't want to have a daughter now. Just considering the things I'VE DONE and the shit I'VE KNOWN HAPPEN... oh gawd. Good luck to you, sir.
 
The_Technomancer said:
Amen brother. Hell, I still haven't tried smoking at 19 because I really just don't see the point. I have my own ways of dealing with stress, its disgusting, and I don't want to support an addiction out of my pocket.

Good to hear, man. Even when I did smoke it was just a few cigars to add a little panache to poker games with my friends. So it's not that I'm a teetotaller...I just know if I ever have kids I'm going to do my best to instill in them the value of moderation. There's way too much lung cancer, drunk driving, etc. in the world to treat this stuff like it's totally harmless.
 
Dead Man Typing said:
Congratulate her on being open minded enough to try something that every one is always telling her is bad. She has found out for herself, showing that she is an individual who will not always follow orders just because an authoritarian figure has told her to. Much better than being a mindless sheep who always follows the rules, like I was.

Once you actively approve of the new hobby she's bound to take another look at the situation and realise what a mistake she's making. But at least she now knows that you're cool with letting make her own mistakes and supporting her when things go wrong.

Better to learn this lesson with a cigarette than with something a lot more serious. You show her respect, she'll show you respect. If she doesn't she's a bitch...

:lol What the? I thought loving parents were supposed to help their kids avoid the same mistakes they went through. Most kids end up hating parents who are "buddy buddy"...

For instance my 10 yr old niece started stealing from a teacher no less because she wasn't feeling she got enough attention (two other toddlers)...Should my sister have "actively approved of the new hobby in hopes she would be bound to take another look at the situation and realize what a mistake she's making?" Be a parent topic person, not a friend, not a buddy, not a neighbor...a parent.
 
McLovin said:
Such a nasty habit. Seriously if a girl is a solid 10 and I find out she smokes it bumps her down to a 6. Why anyone would pick up smoking beyond me. Your breath stinks, your hair and clothes stink. You car, your home, everything fucking stinks. You look older faster, you die younger, if you don't get your cigs you become all nervous and irritable. Nothing good comes from it.

Seriously. I could never date a smoker.

A couple weeks ago, I was on the patio of a bar/restaurant talking with this girl I met. Someone came outside and lit up a cigarette next to us. Started to smell terrible. We moved away a bit and I mentioned to her, "you know? I don't think I could ever be with, let alone go on a date with, a smoker." I go on for a couple minutes and then go... "oh, wait.. you don't smoke, do you?" Thank God she said no and basically agreed with everything I said! :lol oh it could've been bad.
 
JeTmAn81 said:
If being a nerd means you end up a well-adjusted, happy and healthy adult with no dependency or major mental issues, then count me in. Also, birds of a feather :)

But it doesn't, nerds can be miserable too. Following all the rules all the time works for some, but not for others. I know plenty of people who "lived the life" while in high school, but were still very successful. I also know nerds who never pushed any boundary in their lives and probably never will.

Something about folks and strokes....
 
Well I mean it's not really YOUR parenting that's causing this.

It's hard to influence someone when someone as close as her mother is directly influencing the negative behavior.

I don't know what I'd do. I'd just ask what's her reason for smoking and see what they come up with. I think research has shown that young people smoking do it because someone they are close to does or did it... and this seems to be the case with her mom.
 
Count Dookkake said:
Mention her smell and yellow teeth EVERY TIME you guys meet, but don't sound angry, just mocking.

This has got to be the best advice I've seen yet.

The_Technomancer said:
She won't care.
Exactly. Threats won't work at all. Teens think they are invincible. Directly noticing some "apparent" damage will work wonders.
 
Foxy Fox 39 said:
:lol What the? I thought loving parents were supposed to help their kids avoid the same mistakes they went through. Most kids end up hating parents who are "buddy buddy"...

For instance my 10 yr old niece started stealing from a teacher no less because she wasn't feeling she got enough attention (two other toddlers)...Should my sister have "actively approved of the new hobby in hopes she would be bound to take another look at the situation and realize what a mistake she's making?" Be a parent topic person, not a friend, not a buddy, not a neighbor...a parent.

10 and teenage are worlds apart. Be a parent when their young, but when they're becoming their own person, talk to them like a person. Not a friend, not a buddy, not a neighbour... a person. Because that's what they are.

Treat a young adult like a child and you'll only get more problems. At 14, they've already been told what's right and what's wrong. You aren't going to change someone's behaviour at that age by sending them to their room, or taking away their phone or whatever it is people consider punishment these days (I'm 24, I shouldn't be saying these days).
 
The_Technomancer said:
Amen brother. Hell, I still haven't tried smoking at 19 because I really just don't see the point. I have my own ways of dealing with stress, I hate the smell, and I don't want to support an addiction out of my pocket.
Same here 19 and never tried it.
 
Man, I grew up in a smokers house. Both my parents smoke, and of course I ended up being a smoker around 14 myself... I guess I smoked for about 6 or 7 years :( But I grew up came to a few realizations and I've been smoke free going on 5 or 6 years now, not looking back.

What finally pushed me to quit was a few simple things:

1) cancer... seriously who wants lung cancer
2) money... cigarettes are expensive as hell
3) stink... smokers stink, they stink bad, and once you've quit you realize just how bad. Now when I get near a smoker at the store or something I nearly gag.

Good luck with this man, but you gotta' know, no matter how hard you push, and angsty teen is just going to push back. Let her know you're disappointed, tell her she smells, show her cancer pictures/videos online, but don't get aggressive, that probably won't work. Talk to her like she is on your level and she is more likely to respond.
 
bill0527 said:
Goddamn it.

I knew this day would come.

Parenting am fail.

He had to try it. He is becoming a teen. What do you think is going to happen if you dictate his life, and project it to be some rebellious shit? something as monotone and lame as smoking?

GTFO of here with that man. Your just planting seeds to what he will do when his mind is growing and he becomes really F'ed up in the head.
 
JeTmAn81 said:
If being a nerd means you end up a well-adjusted, happy and healthy adult with no dependency or major mental issues, then count me in. Also, birds of a feather :)

OH SNAPPPPPPPPPPP!

You just schooled him.
:lol


Vigilant Walrus said:
He had to try it. He is becoming a teen. What do you think is going to happen if you dictate his life, and project it to be some rebellious shit? something as monotone and lame as smoking?

GTFO of here with that man. Your just planting seeds to what he will do when his mind is growing and he becomes really F'ed up in the head.


Its a she.

Love how everyone assumed it was his son. :lol
 
brianjones said:
you sound like a bore
Yeah, I get that a lot. Funnily enough though, I don't actually find the idea getting hammered at a party or sitting around lighting up with my friends fun. Exactly the opposite, actually. I'd rather sit around and read a book or engage someone in discussion. Just how I'm wired.
 
Pterion said:
No. Elasticity as a property means that the material will hold/return to its original shape, me thinks.
Ri'Orius said:
Sounds like you're thinking of "elastic" meaning "stretchy," whereas really it's the ability to snap back into place after being stretched (to behave like a rubber ball rather than clay).

Gravity is always pulling boobs down. If the skin isn't elastic enough, then gravity wins, and you get saggy boobs. If the skin is elastic enough, the skin wins, and you get awesome boobs.

It's science!
Oh, that makes sense, thanks! But I'm still going to have to do some research.
 
Pein said:
Same here 19 and never tried it.

I'm 22 and never smoked anything at all.

I tend to get annoyed when people say things like 'that's what kids do' just because that's what they did. Not all kids are the same and not all try smoking cause it's "cool" or cause of peer pressure.
 
dorkimoe said:
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Remember: never take shit from your kids. You make payments on the house, utilities, their clothes, school, and their food. You own them. If they don't like it, they can move out. If you love your kids, love them enough to beat them so that they don't grow up to be idiots.
:lol :lol

I agree 100%.

To add to this. I like the idea my friend has that his kid's room is not his kid's room. He is simply allowing the kid to sleep and keep their "loaned" possessions in it. Therefore, they don't have a lock on the door. They shouldn't be doing anything in there that would require them to lock the door.

I got beat. Never smoked. :lol
 
JeTmAn81 said:
Not every kid has to try everything. I certainly didn't. I've never done any kind of illegal drug, and while I have taken both tobacco and alcohol in moderation, I never did so before my 18th and 21st birthdays, respectively. Discipline, yo.

Of course, in my case I had the advantage of two united parents. In this situation your hands are somewhat tied as a father since you can't control what goes on in the other household. The best thing seems to already have been done: express disappointment and set clear boundaries for this behavior.

Sort of true, but that can also be a scapegoat or a way of avoiding things you shouldn't while your wrong. I am saying that with the most contradiction in my fiber as I have some shift of that myself.


Be true to yourself, and find your morale codex, and just go by that. Otherwise you might look back 20 years from now kicking yourself that you didnt more when you were young and stupid.
 
The_Technomancer said:
Yeah, I get that a lot. Funnily enough though, I don't actually find the idea getting hammered at a party or sitting around lighting up with my friends fun. Exactly the opposite, actually. I'd rather sit around and read a book or engage someone in discussion. Just how I'm wired.

have you ever actually tried it?

i hate people who sit around stoned all the time but once in a while it's fun.

how can you really live life if you spend it living inside of a book?
 
Dark Octave said:
:lol :lol

I agree 100%.

To add to this. I like the idea my friend has that his kid's room is not his kid's room. He is simply allowing the kid to sleep and keep their "loaned" possessions in it. Therefore, they don't have a lock on the door. They shouldn't be doing anything in there that would require them to lock the door.
What about masturbation?
 
The erectile dysfunction bit posted on the first page was actually a good idea, until we found out she's female. Appeal to her vanity, if there's one thing I've learned from my sisters it's that teenage girls are incredibly insecure about their appearance.

Inform her that smoking will harm her skin's elasticity, causing her to face to wrinkle and her breasts to sag. This will at least make her think about quitting, but it'll probably take a while for her to decide completely.
 
brianjones said:
have you ever actually tried it?

i hate people who sit around stoned all the time but once in a while it's fun.

how can you really live life if you spend it living inside of a book?
its...more the social aspect, really. I don't like parties in general because nothing interesting (for me) happens. I'm definitely not "anti-social", I'm engaging and outgoing, a good conversationalist, but at the same time I really don't like being around people if we're not doing something constructive or engaging. I haven't really tried it, but I've seen friends drunk and high, and it just isn't something that interests me. *shrug*

I have very weird definitions of "fun", something I've come to accept. ;)
 
That sucks man, I can see why you divorced your ex-wife. :/

Not sure what to do about your daughter smoking. I really just don't want to ever have kids because of stuff like this.
 
Make him eat the cigarettes butts right out of the ashtray. Thats what my mum used to say to me. So I made extra care not to get caught :D
 
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