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[Redshirt]

Dex is a cool little action rpg metroidvania thing that no one played

Yeah. I'm playing through it right now for the first time. Reminds me of the old Neuromancer game in some ways.

I wish the writing was better, but the graphics, atmosphere, side-scrolling action, hacking mini-game and RPG mechanics are all really cool.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

In addition to all the mentioned examples , you can also look up at Transistor

http://store.steampowered.com/app/237930/Transistor/

This.

 

[Shake Appeal]

Invisible, Inc. is also a cyberpunk game, in its way.

 

[Stimpack]

Rise of the dragon

 

[hrab]

Is it safe to say it's ok to pirate Blade Runner on PC? It's a touchy subject but I think it's one that needs to be discussed, seeing as there's zero chance at all of the game being re-released due to the source being lost and the only way to get it is from multiple hand copies at this stage in which the developer will never see money for, etc. Surely this is a case where piracy can be given a nod seeing as people want the content, want to purchase the content, but can never ever do so.

Since there is no way to buy it, no one is losing any money. Buying used copy doesn't provide any money to the creators/copy right holders anyway. And even having a proper copy doesn't mean that you would be able to run it without problems on modern OS, so from my point of view it's totally fine, as long as you are going to buy it if by some miracle it will end up getting a re-release ; If you will like it, you can always buy used CD's later. If you won't be able to run it, you will save yourself some time and money.

 

[Auroradawn]

I dunno, Transistor has such a stylized abstraction to how it approaches cyberpunk aesthetics that it's difficult for me to put it in the same category as a Blade Runner or whatever. There's just too much gloss to it, not nearly enough cultural and structural decay.

It's a fucking cool game though.

I was also hesitated whether to mention it or not , but I decided that it is at least worth a mention

 

[TetraGenesis]

Definitely The Last Night, but it isn't out yet.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/612400/The_Last_Night/ (coming to Xbox One too)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pupdeq1MoVw

Do you love games about killing dirty SJWs and nasty lying feminists, OP? Then you're gonna LOVE The Last Night.

 

[Nintendoga]

Snatcher is pretty much Blade Runner the game.

Unfortunately the options for playing it legally are very limited or expensive. I wish they'd port this to Steam...

 

[rudger]

To the people saying you can’t buy Blade Runner easily, I see it on eBay for $20-40 which doesn’t seem that bad. Frankly it seems low for a loved game where the source code is lost. Am I missing something? Any reason to avoid these listings?

Edit: this has now become more important as the article just released about it will likely drive up prices

 

[w0s]

I know Remember Me is hit or miss for a lot of people, but I really enjoyed it and think it has that feel. Not as noir but I like the futuristic feel.

 

[deim0s]

Rise of the dragon

holy shit! man, this brings memories.

 

[BTA]

Actually; if you really want to immerse yourself in Cyberpunk, you should check out books. Start with Neuromancer by William Gibson, get used to the prose for a bit, but in the end it's a reward that's more immersive and lively than any Deus Ex game. Actually, we don't have to compare - I played Deux Ex Human Revolution after reading Neuromancer and I loved it all the more because they were so similar.

Another author well versed in cyberpunk is Neal Stephenson. I only read Snow Crash, but check out a few of his titles if you're keen.

And as for Last Light; I'm willing to give anyone the benefit of the doubt after saying something stupid but then apologizing for it. Gamergate is absolute shit, but we (the non-alt-right-folks) have to try and be nuanced where everybody's waving around pitchforks and calling out murder. If he didn't use the #gamergate tag in that tweed it wouldn'tve been so bad. It was a dumb thing, but let's wait until the game's out and what the narrative actually says.

What? No, if he didn't use #gamergate everything else in the tweets would still be horrible nonsense that also goes against the point of cyberpunk to begin with.

You have to earn the benefit of the doubt, honestly. And nothing he's said since then has earned him that. So we'll see; maybe it's changed completely since his original idea. But until we know that for sure, why assume it's changed?

EDIT:

Regarding the Last Night, did anyone see the vice article on this?

https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/art...unk-an-interview-with-the-last-night-designer

To me this just reads as "it will include the same backwards ideas I had except now I won't try to say anything with them, promise".

Like sure, imagine that future, but what you imagine is going to say something about you and just going "now it's not mean!" doesn't inherently mean the idea wasn't bad to begin with. Particularly in a genre about fighting those in power...

 

[Neff]

Snatcher is pretty much Blade Runner the game.

Unfortunately the options for playing it legally are very limited or expensive. I wish they’d port this to Steam...

The Japanese version is available on PSN, although it's the PSone version, which sucks.

I think throwing some money Konami's way for the digital version then seeking out an unofficial copy of the in ludicrously short-supply English version is morally acceptable.

The game is a must play and Kojima's best work imo. Nobody should have to shell out $600+ for a copy of the game and a Sega CD to play it on.

 

[pakkit]

there a lot of creators who i disagree with on an ideological basis, and yet i appreciate their artwork and creative expression. lars von trier, for example, has said all sorts of repugnant shit, and yet i still think melancholia is a great piece of work. or, if you want an analogy in the games world, i disagree with a lot of the opinions put forth in blogs by developers the astronauts (usually lame gamergate shit), and yet that didn't color my understanding or interpretation of their game the vanishing of ethan carter (the bad dialogue did). disregarding that those tweets were several years ago, the artist can say fuck all about what he thinks his game represents and it doesn't necessarily carry weight. interpretation is in the eyes of the reader.

that isn't to say i won't be keeping a close eye on textual critiques of the last night when it comes out. but it is to say people can be critical of progressivism in sci-fi by making it hyperreal.

story details of observer below: in observer, one of my favorite games this year, there's this uncomfortable thread line in the game that

Spoiler

clearly draws analogues between gender dysphoria and genetic mutilation. one of the characters relates so strongly with the werewolves he sees in media that he decides to become one. emails and documents about his transition are clearly meant to evoke thoughts of gender affirmation surgery, and it made me wonder, is this game critiquing the progressive understanding of gender affirmation? or just reflecting our current society in a perverse, dystopian mirror?

ultimately, this point is a side story in a much larger game that touches a wide number of issues.

tl;dr the ideology of the creator can inform a piece of work, but interpretation and reading is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[dead_lighter]

Go for:

https://www.gog.com/game/beneath_a_steel_sky

it's free!

 

[More_Badass]

tdr the ideology of the creator can inform a piece of work, but interpretation and reading is in the eye of the beholder.

If we go by the devs’ own comments, this isn’t the case

This isn’t like a racist guy doing an allegory where the other is presented as bad, and thus has a racist subtext informers by the creator’s ideology

This is like a xenophobe writing a story and world of the story where multiculturalism is evil and causes global collapse, while a pure and segregated civilization survives and flourishes

 

[The Last Wizard]

VA-11 HALL-A if you want something about civilian life in a dystopian society.

I’ll play this if they ever get to realeasing the vita version.

 

[peakish]

How excellent was this game? Not just subject matter either, it actually had interesting mechanics and writing too.



I can’t for the life of me understand why someone like GOG doesn’t take it on. Threads like these always demonstrated there’d be a market for it especially with the resurgence in point and click adventure games.

It's a shame this isn't widely available. It's a great and very ambitious game. Westwood was such a cool studio.

 

[Tntnico]

Observer just came out.

It's set in a cyberpunk world. It unfolds in the dilapidated rooms of an apartment building in a dystopian Krakow.

The main character, voiced by Blade Runner's Rutger Hauer, plays an old, beat up Observer--futurist detectives that extract testimony and evidence from witnesses by mindjacking them.

The visuals are insane. The story is tightly woven. The atmosphere is thick. It's one of my favorite games this year.

How is "horror" in this horror cyberpunk game ? Because I can handle horror like Alien Isolation, or RE5 but not like RE7, Until Dawn or any horror film.

 

[LiK]

The official Blade Runner PC adventure game from back in the day. It's considered canon and actually good.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

Do you love games about killing dirty SJWs and nasty lying feminists, OP? Then you're gonna LOVE The Last Night.

is that actually what the game is about?

 

[carlsojo]

Observer is SO GOOD

 

[hrab]

This is like a xenophobe writing a story and world of the story where multiculturalism is evil and causes global collapse, while a pure and segregated civilization survives and flourishes

Seems like you've already played it. Can you share some more story details?

 

[Despera]

The actual Blade Runner adventure game made by Westwood.

Also Technobabylon.

Don't forget Gemini Rue as well. Both fantastic games.

 

[TVexperto]

anarchy online?

 

[pakkit]

How is "horror" in this horror cyberpunk game ? Because I can handle horror like Alien Isolation, or RE5 but not like RE7, Until Dawn or any horror film.

If you can handle Alien Isolation, you can handle this. Also, there's plenty of downtime spent doing sleuth work, interviewing tenants, and exploring. It's more scary in its themes, ala SOMA.

If we go by the devs' own comments, this isn't the case

This isn't like a racist guy doing an allegory where the other is presented as bad, and thus has a racist subtext informers by the creator's ideology

This is like a xenophobe writing a story and world of the story where multiculturalism is evil and causes global collapse, while a pure and segregated civilization survives and flourishes

well, yeah, that's what he said. but, i think, given his clear trouble expressing himself in english (outlined in that waypoint article), and the three years that have passed since he made those comments, as well as his publisher saying they didn't detect any of those themes in the game, i'm willing to at least wait until the final product has come out before saying that's what his fiction will contain. it may be naive of me.

ultimately, intention doesn't matter as much as the text. i'm thinking of Squeenix Montreal now, where, despite their best intentions, Letitia the trash lady came off as an extremely ham-handed handling of sensitive social dynamics.

 

[EvB]

Beneath a steel sky
Remember me
Syndicate
Perfect Dark

Then you could possibly go for some other non-Sci Fi noir games

LA Noir
Max Payne
Heavy Rain

 

[Wollan]

Deux Ex: Human Revolution (2011). Loved it.
Can't speak for the latest one but it seems less liked.

Syndicate Wars was awesome. It might still hold up.

TechnoLust for PC VR.

 

[Grief.exe]

How excellent was this game? Not just subject matter either, it actually had interesting mechanics and writing too.



I can’t for the life of me understand why someone like GOG doesn’t take it on. Threads like these always demonstrated there’d be a market for it especially with the resurgence in point and click adventure games.

Licencing is very difficult.

 

[Freezasaurus]

Dex is a cool little action rpg metroidvania thing that no one played.

I'll second this. I had a blast with Dex. I found it on PSN completely by accident.

 

[MasterOfPastures]

If we go by the devs’ own comments, this isn’t the case

This isn’t like a racist guy doing an allegory where the other is presented as bad, and thus has a racist subtext informers by the creator’s ideology

This is like a xenophobe writing a story and world of the story where multiculturalism is evil and causes global collapse, while a pure and segregated civilization survives and flourishes

But we do not know that for sure, not after his apology and mea culpa. I'll wait until release and get as much of a spoiler free impression of other gaffers wether or not the game argues feminist values are a negative for society. If that is the case, even after his written contrition, fuck him. Until then, i'll give him the benefit of the doubt thanks to that article (regardless of the possibility it might be a calculated move).

 

[Spring-Loaded]

Seems like you've already played it. Can you share some more story details?

Oh

 

[serenewarfare]

Every time I am reminded of Cyberpunk 2077, I get sad that it is undoubtedly so far away. Especially given its recent reboot.

 

[joe2187]

But we do not know that for sure, not after his apology and mea culpa. I'll wait until release and get as much of a spoiler free impression of other gaffers wether or not the game argues feminist values are a negative for society. If that is the case, even after his written contrition, fuck him. Until then, i'll give him the benefit of the doubt thanks to that article (regardless of the possibility it might be a calculated move).

You can read the subtext there already in his "Apology".

The philosophy of the game is supposed to be a feminist "Utopia" because women are free to do what they want because they dont gotta worry about carrying babies anymore.

 

[spad3]

Deus Ex: Machina
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

Straight up Blade Runner vibes.

Human Revolution being the best of the bunch, Mankind Divided has some pretty solid moments and great areas to explore. It's practically a Blade Runner Simulator haha

 

[Godcannon]

Snatcher
Deus Ex
Deus Ex HR
TRANSISTOR
Nier Automata
ROM 2064


Quick drive by list cuz I'm working. Saw it last night too, was pretty amazing.

 

[Reckless Abandon]

Deus Ex: Human Revolution & Mankind Divided are tight.
Perfect Dark is great and has similar vibes if you're looking for more shooter-ish action. Has a great soundtrack too.
Some of the stages in the WipEout series remind me of Blade Runner if you're looking for a racer.

 

[jmizzal]

Observer
The Deus Ex games

 

[MasterOfPastures]

You can read the subtext there already in his "Apology".

The philosophy of the game is supposed to be a feminist "Utopia" because women are free to do what they want because they dont gotta worry about carrying babies anymore.

I doubt the foundations of his "early" horrid miopic views that filtered into the game since the beginning of production can be changed, but I stil want to see if his contrition shows up in the game. Hence, I need impressions of gaffers when it comes out.
People plagued by demons and remorse can make some beautiful art that speaks to the human condition... if they are skilled enough.

 

[D4rth Man7iz]

Observer! Be warned it's a bit of a horror game. There's not a lot of it, but It's got that run and hide from monster stuff in it.

Check Observer!

Just got back from the theater... This work of art will be in my mind for a long time.

 

[TheFawz]

For recent releases to a point Satellite Reign and the Shadowrun games on steam.

For something really similar though you'd have to go back to the much older games.

 

[jediyoshi]

Gemini Rue

Thankfully it's been brought up a bunch, but Gemini Rue 10000%

 

[Joco]

We're all waiting on Cyberpunk 2077.

 

[Masonica33]

E.Y.E: Divine Cybermancy.
Under-appreciated gem of a game, complete with funky Pathologic-esque engrish dialogue and WH40k-esque over-designed space marines. Has to be seen to be believed.

 

[Mutombo]

You have to earn the benefit of the doubt, honestly. And nothing he's said since then has earned him that. So we'll see; maybe it's changed completely since his original idea. But until we know that for sure, why assume it's changed?

EDIT:



To me this just reads as "it will include the same backwards ideas I had except now I won't try to say anything with them, promise".

yeah, nice discussion opportunity right there.

I swear; taking someone down for saying something incredibly stupid and sticking by it is one thing, but jumping on bandwagons for someone saying something inredibly stupid but then, in hindsight, not wanting to see any sense of apology or excuse or context is putting your head in the sand and nobody is going to get helped by that sort of mentality.

But you do you.

Edit: a lot of science fiction books in the 60's are brilliant, but written by racist writers. You can still see the brilliance in the work yet fault them for that. But as a body of work it's interesting to see how we've evolved since then. Society was different then, and society is different now.

Right now, a lot of our e-culture, alt right, gamergate, or the PC police, is influenced by a post-feminism or anti-feminism extreme. Developers put in diversity; get called out by gamergaters. Developers put in sexist shit; get called out by the PC police. Between the one and the other extreme there is no place for nuanced discussion anymore. As soon as you get called out you're done because the whole finger pointing side remains in the extreme. My point: don't be a part of the fucking extremes man. Games these days can't not NOT be a part of either sexism or feminism. But we, as a society, can't go forward if we reduce ourselves to mob mentality.

 

[flatearthpandas]

Observer just came out.

It's set in a cyberpunk world. It unfolds in the dilapidated rooms of an apartment building in a dystopian Krakow.

The main character, voiced by Blade Runner's Rutger Hauer, plays an old, beat up Observer--futurist detectives that extract testimony and evidence from witnesses by mindjacking them.

The visuals are insane. The story is tightly woven. The atmosphere is thick. It's one of my favorite games this year.

This sounds sick. Checking it out

 

[cHaOs667]

Love Flashback Dreamweb, Dex and the old Blade Runner adventure.

Never been able to play Snatcher.

The creator has explicitly stated that anti-feminism is a major theme of the game.

So what? He is free to express what he believes. Especially in his own creative product.

The freedom if speech is one of the highest goods we have and you have to respect that - even if you don't like what he says and believe.

I'm still pretty excited for the game and will judge his work when the game is released.

Edit: My questions about snatcher have been answered a page before -.-

 

[AerialAir]

Deux Ex: Human Revolution is the closest you will find to Blade Runner in videogames. You might also want to take a look at Hotel Dusk: Room 215, Shadowrun: Dragonfall, Heavy Rain, Max Payne 3, L.A. Noire and Grim Fandango Remastered.

 

[valkyre]

Deus Ex

 

[wetwired]

Satellite Reign, not that I worked on it or anything...