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You need to watch End of Evangelion
Seven Force
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Yeah, I watched EoE for the first time a few months back, too. I'm... still not entirely sure how to feel about it.
XANDER CAGE
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Shit, I forgot about these. So good.
Yeah it sounds really dumb but I actually get teary eyed when I see the menu lol. Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring and all the footage. It's like a sensation of pure awe.
surrealist
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I'll get to it soon. Just started The Hakkenden.
Vulcano's assistant
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Yup. You can actually very clearly see the fluidity and visual fidelity change before and after his scene.
Cuban Legend
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TheVampire
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I love this part:
3.33 was great. I don't want to turn this into a 3.33 thread but it's a great eva movie. Maybe my favourite of the 3. could PM you my reasons why sometime lol
Also, obligatory:
That sounds awesome. I don't watch a lot of anime, but if I ever spot a theatre screening of End of Evangelion, I'd be down.
That sounds awesome. I don't watch a lot of anime, but if I ever spot a theatre screening of End of Evangelion, I'd be down.
Also, obligatory:
That pic is pretty hilarious lol. But I hope nobody in this thread actually genuinely hates Shinji?
Episode 15 Those Women Longed for the Touch of Other's Lips, and Thus Invited Their Kisses is my favourite as I've said in many eva threads
SteveWinwood
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This is hilarious.
CURIOSITY
Oh man... This movie.
The first time I saw this I has having problems with headaches and a doctor prescribed me this medication that used to be used as an antidepressant. I think this was back in early highschool, I would have been around 14-15. Didn't help for my headaches but it made me depressed as shit. Then I decided to lighten the mood by watching this.
I wanted to kill myself.
That movie really does take, like, 3 damn days to recover from.
The first time I saw this I has having problems with headaches and a doctor prescribed me this medication that used to be used as an antidepressant. I think this was back in early highschool, I would have been around 14-15. Didn't help for my headaches but it made me depressed as shit. Then I decided to lighten the mood by watching this.
I wanted to kill myself.
That movie really does take, like, 3 damn days to recover from.
Appropriate song, even.
SO WITH SADNESS IN MY HEART
I FEEL THE BEST THING I COULD DO
IS END IT ALL
AND LEAVE FOREVER
WHAT'S DONE IS DONE IT FEELS SO BAD
WHAT ONCE WAS HAPPY NOW IS SAD
I'LL NEVER LOVE AGAIN
MY WORLD IS ENDING
I don't, but I just thought it was a pretty hilarious summary of Shinji in a way.
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I just realized this now: why is it Kaworu on the cover, and not Rei?
lol damn
As I said on post 39, I felt totally the opposite. It felt like I had a reason to live lol.
a Master Ninja
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Quoting my own question because this thread is digging up old wounds.
EDIT: I choose to believe Replicant's interpretation.
3.33 was great. I don't want to turn this into a 3.33 thread but it's a great eva movie. Maybe my favourite of the 3. could PM you my reasons why sometime lol
Eh 3.33 seems universally hated by gaf, just look at the 3.0 spoiler thread. I don't hate it as much as some people but it has some questionable writing in parts. Though the premise of the movie is pretty ballsy it kinda goes downhill from there and half way through I felt like the movie was basically buildup to Eva: Final
It's not THAT complicated:
THE END
* Misato finds out that EVA project has other purpose
* NERV is being invaded by the JSDF under SEELE's order, initiating massacre, fulfilling the prophecy that the 18th Angel, Humans, are indeed the cruelest Angel of them all.
* Rei III seems to gain self-realization after all of her bitter experiences with Gendou.
* Shinji is in full funk mode resulting him to fap himself to a comatose Asuka
* Misato forces Shinji to pilot EVA again, telling him that it's okay to make mistake as long as he knows why he made those mistakes and try his best not to repeat them again. She conks out.
* Asuka snaps out of her coma, goes berserk against MP EVAs but is eventually overwhelmed and is (assumed) dead.
* Shinji's mind snaps out when he saw Asuka's fate and initiated 3rd impact.
* Instrumentality begins, Rei III rejects Gendou, and merge with Lilith on her own accord. She then liquidifies every humans so they can all become one whole Lilith again.
* Shinji is eventually assimilated too. Much to his dismay, however, instrumentality can't solve his self-esteem issue. Instead, he ends up having to confront his own fucked up/low self-esteem, imagining that everyone actually hates him.
* Kaworu + Rei due to their time with Shinji agrees that despite his flaws, Shinji is the best person to determine the fate of humanity.
* Kaworu + Rei offers Shinji a chance to keep things as is or to revert everyone as humans. Despite the hurt he got from other humans, Shinji felt that he'd rather see them again than existing as one entity together.
* As a result of his wish, Lilith splits and instrumentality is canceled. Everyone who wants to return to their previous individual form can do so.
* The ending reveals that the purpose of EVA-01 was to act as new Noah's Ark in case the sun, the moon, and the earth cease to exist. EVA-01 can live forever even after those stars perish.
* At the end, it seems only Shinji and Asuka want to return to their individuality. Shinji, still thinking that Asuka actually hates him, started to choke him. She, however, stroke his face, implying that most of his issues are on his mind. She doesn't really hate him. Well, not really. She prob still thinks he's a bit pathetic thus her "I feel sick".
* NERV is being invaded by the JSDF under SEELE's order, initiating massacre, fulfilling the prophecy that the 18th Angel, Humans, are indeed the cruelest Angel of them all.
* Rei III seems to gain self-realization after all of her bitter experiences with Gendou.
* Shinji is in full funk mode resulting him to fap himself to a comatose Asuka
* Misato forces Shinji to pilot EVA again, telling him that it's okay to make mistake as long as he knows why he made those mistakes and try his best not to repeat them again. She conks out.
* Asuka snaps out of her coma, goes berserk against MP EVAs but is eventually overwhelmed and is (assumed) dead.
* Shinji's mind snaps out when he saw Asuka's fate and initiated 3rd impact.
* Instrumentality begins, Rei III rejects Gendou, and merge with Lilith on her own accord. She then liquidifies every humans so they can all become one whole Lilith again.
* Shinji is eventually assimilated too. Much to his dismay, however, instrumentality can't solve his self-esteem issue. Instead, he ends up having to confront his own fucked up/low self-esteem, imagining that everyone actually hates him.
* Kaworu + Rei due to their time with Shinji agrees that despite his flaws, Shinji is the best person to determine the fate of humanity.
* Kaworu + Rei offers Shinji a chance to keep things as is or to revert everyone as humans. Despite the hurt he got from other humans, Shinji felt that he'd rather see them again than existing as one entity together.
* As a result of his wish, Lilith splits and instrumentality is canceled. Everyone who wants to return to their previous individual form can do so.
* The ending reveals that the purpose of EVA-01 was to act as new Noah's Ark in case the sun, the moon, and the earth cease to exist. EVA-01 can live forever even after those stars perish.
* At the end, it seems only Shinji and Asuka want to return to their individuality. Shinji, still thinking that Asuka actually hates him, started to choke him. She, however, stroke his face, implying that most of his issues are on his mind. She doesn't really hate him. Well, not really. She prob still thinks he's a bit pathetic thus her "I feel sick".
THE END
XANDER CAGE
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I hate him, but I think he's a fantastic character. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Sort of hard to forgive him for a lot of stuff, especially by EoE.
I think it's portrayed as a bad thing in the end, as without any barriers we can't be hurt anymore but we no longer have the opportunity to love, either. Shinji ultimately rejects it after realizing this and
recreates the world using EVA-01 and Adam/Lillith, leading to Rebuild.
Also, though your question is about how it's portrayed in the anime,
Evangelion 2 for the PS2/PSP suggest that there are multiple versions of instrumentality that could take place. It can be inferred that the version of instrumentality seen in EoE was Seele's failed attempt at their plot in which Rei initiates instrumentality, where in Rebuild it appears as though Seele is dead, meaning that Rebuild's instrumentality (if it occurs at all) will either be initiated on Gendo or Shinji's terms.
I do, he is the most obnoxious whiny little bitch ever to grace animation.
He is a little better in the Rebuild movies though.
I would say it is portrayed as a bad thing considering Shinji chooses to reject it at the end of the film. That's why I have never been able to understand when people say that EoE had a downer ending. If you just look at all the death and destruction then sure, but the film is about Shinji ultimately coming to terms with his fear of hurt and rejection. He comes to understand that the potential of finding happiness in another person outweighs the potential pain. It also gives everyone a potential out of instrumentality. The film is more bittersweet than outright depressing.
Razgriz-Specter
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Negative right? The point being that instrumentality is all about erasing all of the insecurities in our hearts and becoming one. The whole point was that Shinji realised that this was wrong. It's okay to feel pain and its essential to allowing us as beings to grow. To have restrictions and to have other people we can compare yourself to. In doing so we become ourselves.
Seele wanted to become merged inside an Evangelion unit with the S² Engine. They wanted to place only their own souls within the Eva. The point being that once they were merged with a god like being, and with the Lance destroyed (that being the only tool that can hurt the Eva) they would have pretty much created an immortal being that is merged with the human soul which would then represent the pinnacle of human existence, and it would exist throughout eternity.
I remember watching this when I was younger and I was okay with the series until the very end where things just made no damn sense at all. At the time I figured it was the translation. It wasn't official. It was a fansub. Then I saw it with the official subtitled translation and dubbing it still didn't make a damn bit of sense to me. I just washed my hands of the series at that point and didn't look back. It's always amazed me that people were so crazy about it and would be willing to rebuy it over and over again.
Now a series that I did very much enjoy that I guess is similar from what I remembered of Eva and how people try to negatively hit as Eva-lite was RahXephon. Fully understandable and enjoyable.
Now a series that I did very much enjoy that I guess is similar from what I remembered of Eva and how people try to negatively hit as Eva-lite was RahXephon. Fully understandable and enjoyable.
You Can (Not) Have Enough.
Lemon Crest
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The Komm Susser Tod sequence is my favorite part of the whole movie.
The movie,on a whole though, is still pretty weird.Watching it after staying up all night might have enhanced the whole experience for me though.
The movie,on a whole though, is still pretty weird.Watching it after staying up all night might have enhanced the whole experience for me though.
This is exactly how I watched it the first time.
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But Kaji is awesome. No one denies this.
Hellsing321
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Possibly my favorite movie ever. It left me in a funk for days afterward when I first watched it in high school. I try to watch it at least once year and I'm still blown away every time.
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