mcz117chief
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I heard the name, literally just heard and expected it to be an RPG but I never once opened a single thread with the name or ever attempted to play it.
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Kamiya: Metal Gear Solid and Monster Hunter are not "World's Famous Game"
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I heard the name, literally just heard and expected it to be an RPG but I never once opened a single thread with the name or ever attempted to play it.
Finale Fireworker
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Don't be so surprised. GAF is still a lunchroom full of cliques, regardless of how they overlap. I bet you there are a lot of people here who have never heard of Dragon Quest. There will be less of them now with the 3DS versions coming west, but until now, it's been on the skirts of obscure.
"How is this possible?" You might ask. After all, it's one of the biggest and most famous franchises in Japan.
But it's just not "World's Famous."
Mr. Nice_Guy
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My hero.
Jonneh3003
Banned
There are members here who haven't played Mario, that's even crazier.
no way. really? at least EVERYONE knows about Mario. no?
almost everyone knows Mario in Russia
Lurgan1337
Banned
Nice oneIs it from Russia, Ukraine or Belarus? Also, he is gaining in popularity in Easter Europe lately too. But 20 years ago? No chance anybody would recognize him.
yeah that photo is a few years old, judging by currency exchange rate banner
and really - Dendy and some more consoles became super popular thought 90s. I bet almost everyone here knows Mario, but elderly. Damn, I remember my mom and dad bought me Mario game cardridge
Vigilant Walrus
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Sonic is completely forgotten. That character doesn't have much value anymore
Jonneh3003
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=182456693&postcount=19
That's just one example but I've seen posts about this more than I care to admit.
The same thing can be said for Zelda and Final Fantasy.
The release of a new Final Fantasy / Zelda game used to be an event for the industry, they basically were the go-to franchises for the "fantasy experience".
This definitely isn't the case anymore.
Freeman
Banned
Dragon Quest has no business in that list. Should have said Resident Evil, Pokemon or Street Fighter.
I'm constantly surprised by how some people I wouldn't expect recognize Crash and Lara as well.
MGS is borderline, its a movie away from being recognizable by people that don't play games.
I'm constantly surprised by how some people I wouldn't expect recognize Crash and Lara as well.
MGS is borderline, its a movie away from being recognizable by people that don't play games.
Still more world famous then Dragon Quest.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
annoying how you can't make a comparison between any aspect of video games without people assuming you've made an implicit value judgment as well.
Then he should speak in clear words. When someone says, X is more world famous then Y, then people think you say that X is worldwide better know then Y.
And its pretty obivious, that Dragon Quest is not as well known as Zelda or Resident Evil.
Wow. i guess indifference towards Nintendo is one thing. But i am still sure that they know Mario. Lucky for him, Nintendo is going no where anytime soon. lol.
I don't know why people are assuming he's trolling or joking. He's clearly being genuine here. The phrase "world famous" is often used just to mean "famous everywhere within my sphere." It's a packed phrase in Japanese, just like it is in English. When someone makes a sign at their restaurant that says "world famous burgers!" they don't actually mean that everyone in a country on the other side of the world knows what it is. Within his sphere, he can go up to anybody and it's more likely they'll know Mario and DQ than anything else, and that's fair.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
what do you mean "people"
"better than" and "more famous than" is a distinction a middle schooler could make
I cut the sides of my hair, put a bandanna on and had a sweater and shorts on for Halloween and at least 6 people recognized me as snake on a vacation
We're almost there
He didn't say 世界で有名 or anything to that extent so I don't see the problem.
This. It's like claiming your restaurant or whatever has the best spaghetti or whatever in the entire country. It's colloquial hyperbole.
Considering the original tweets were made in Japanese, don't be surprised if something is lost in translation.
This. It's like claiming your restaurant or whatever has the best spaghetti or whatever in the entire country. It's colloquial hyperbole.
Yes, of course, more people know what Dragon Quest is then Resident Evil or Zelda
LOL, so I need knowledge of Japan when it comes to the question, if a game if worldwide known?
What a idiot.
Considering the original tweets were made in Japanese, don't be surprised if something is lost in translation.
I mean, his methodology seems shaky at best, but I don't think anyone would consider Monster Hunter world famous. I mean, it's big in Japan, but it's niche as hell everywhere else.
I'd imagine most world famous games are stuff from the 80's like Pacman, Tetris,and Space Invaders, stuff that came with your PC like Minesweeper, or big mobile games.
I'd imagine most world famous games are stuff from the 80's like Pacman, Tetris,and Space Invaders, stuff that came with your PC like Minesweeper, or big mobile games.
Monster Hunter is well/known amongst younger people, but much less so with older folks.
mrmickfran
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You need to study Japanese to be able to declare what is and isn't the "world's famous games"?
Sounds fair enough to me, seems like things got lost in translation after all.
You need to study Japanese to understand the nuance of what he said. I tried to explain above but I guess it doesn't really matter; people just want to fight.
Dragon Quest was fairly well known in the West in the NES days. Dragon Warrior came with a copy of Nintendo Power.
I don't know how much more high-profile a game can be.
The low amount of copies produced of 4 and the lack of localization for 5 and 6 allowed the series to fade into obscurity. 7 was released to no fanfare at the very end of the PS1's life cycle, DQ4 PS1 was cancelled, and 8 was released at the tail end of the PS2's life cycle.
DQ is huge in Japan, though. Slimes are synonymous with gaming, and in addition to the folklore of the government mandating the games not release on school days, I remember reading they even added certain spells from the game to their dictionaries.
I don't know how much more high-profile a game can be.
The low amount of copies produced of 4 and the lack of localization for 5 and 6 allowed the series to fade into obscurity. 7 was released to no fanfare at the very end of the PS1's life cycle, DQ4 PS1 was cancelled, and 8 was released at the tail end of the PS2's life cycle.
DQ is huge in Japan, though. Slimes are synonymous with gaming, and in addition to the folklore of the government mandating the games not release on school days, I remember reading they even added certain spells from the game to their dictionaries.
Snake is definitely more popular than Megaman; Megaman had been all but dead for a near decade outside the spinoff games and MM9 and 10(which didn't exactly set the world on fire). MGS has sold over 10 million copies more than the Megaman series
I read your post and I do understand he's speaking from Japan's perspective and not worldwide, but it isn't really obvious when you say "World's Famous" at first. Also, my post wasn't to instigate some "fight", just a joke post because he didn't exactly explain or tell he meant from his country's perspective but instead made one of his lazy "you're an idiot" tweets he usually does.
I think only Super Mario and Tetris are recognised by a large proportion of the global population.
Everyone needs to remember that in much of the world video games are non-existent. Even Europe I think has less general gaming awareness than the U.S. or Japan, people just drink alcohol and watch football instead.
Everyone needs to remember that in much of the world video games are non-existent. Even Europe I think has less general gaming awareness than the U.S. or Japan, people just drink alcohol and watch football instead.
The Americas sure, but Europe didn't get a mainline DQ game till VIII.
glassgannon
Banned
Wrong wrong wrong.
mario , final fantasy and pacman are world class. i.e. known in west outside of the gaming community by a fair amount.
everyone who games knows of zelda and mgs in the west.
mario , final fantasy and pacman are world class. i.e. known in west outside of the gaming community by a fair amount.
everyone who games knows of zelda and mgs in the west.
Recently I actually asked which game franchises my mom knew out of curiosity for what would reach someone who isn't interested in games
Ones she knew:
Mario, sonic(my family never even had a sonic game so that was a surprise), pacman, Tetris, pokemon, pong, angry birds (simply due to the t-shirts and stuff)
She also knows Zelda but I'm pretty certain that's just cause my sisters and I talked about it a lot. Civilization and the sims also fit in that category
Possibly: (seemed to recognize title but couldn't reliably describe characters or gameplay)
Street fighter, space invaders, Oregon trail
Didn't know:
Halo, Warcraft, Starcraft, skyrim (despite watching my dad play it... She somehow thought it was a scifi game :|), call of duty, doom, tomb raider, Minecraft, final fantasy, megaman, metroid, metal gear solid, resident evil, crash bandicoot, spyro
Ones she knew:
Mario, sonic(my family never even had a sonic game so that was a surprise), pacman, Tetris, pokemon, pong, angry birds (simply due to the t-shirts and stuff)
She also knows Zelda but I'm pretty certain that's just cause my sisters and I talked about it a lot. Civilization and the sims also fit in that category
Possibly: (seemed to recognize title but couldn't reliably describe characters or gameplay)
Street fighter, space invaders, Oregon trail
Didn't know:
Halo, Warcraft, Starcraft, skyrim (despite watching my dad play it... She somehow thought it was a scifi game :|), call of duty, doom, tomb raider, Minecraft, final fantasy, megaman, metroid, metal gear solid, resident evil, crash bandicoot, spyro
Ultimadrago
Member
Well, most certainly not off about his games at least.
lol. who is this person? now i am curious.
FloweryMarston
Member
why take what he said literally. why get angry even if he was being super serious. oh nooooo he said dragon quest is more famous than x franchise despite both of them selling millions oh noooooooo someone call the ambulance
Well, it's funny, in my country people might know Pokémon, Mario and Final Fantasy, but I barely have met anyone who actually knew what Street Fighter was.
Most people assume it's a movie, which well, I know they exist but I kinda doubt many have actually watched that.
Pancake Mix
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Donkey Kong and Sonic games don't do very well in Japan anymore and I don't think Sonic ever did.
Final Fantasy, Mario, and Dragon Quest probably qualify for Japan is my guess.
BishopLamont
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kamiya is the ultimate troll
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