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Kaz Hirai: PS3 to be profitable in '08
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Beer Monkey
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Firewire said:
Um, the original post is a troll. A bald faced lie about what Kaz said = nothing but an attempt to stir shit up.
Beer Monkey
Member
xaosslug said:
Posting the truth of what Kaz said is much more boring and wouldn't get as many responses, depriving the OP of the attention that he so desperately craves.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
beermonkey@tehbias said:
I think Firewire was referring to the OP in his comment.
Well said. Given his druthers, I think KK would have made the PS2 the living room hub he wanted it to be. I wonder if the image of the machine would be different now had he still been in-charge. I really don't like the focus of SCE since his departure. Seems like they're wasting the PS3 with the way they've targeted it. PEACE.andycapps said:
How much have they lost on the PS3 so far? I recall a listing of their finances from the PS2 launch onwards, and it was pretty heavily into the negatives. Excluding the PS2 would make those losses dip into the 'staggering' category, and I don't think that even includes the costs of R&D. So how does the PS3 figure to hit profitability, realistically?
Didn't the PS1 R&D not get paid off until the PS2 was out?
Didn't the PS1 R&D not get paid off until the PS2 was out?
Pimpwerx said:
Well, just to elaborate on what I said earlier, I don't think everything he said or did benefited consumers. He said that consumers would want to work two jobs to get a PS3 and that it was a supercomputer, among other things. We wouldn't have had a price drop if he was still in charge, guaranteed. So that was good for consumers that that decision was taken out of his hands. Kaz Hirai moved in and recognized that a price drop needed to be done to keep the PS3 from completely tanking. Now they're playing catch up. When I said that what he did was good for consumers in that he was giving the consumer a product that was generally beyond what the competitors were doing. They could have gone safe on the PS2 and PS3 and offered up incremental upgrades or cut some things (more things, rather) in the launch units but they didn't. Now we're seeing cuts in the 40 GB unit that would not have been made had Kutaragi been in charge still. No backwards compatibility would have never cut it with him.
squatingyeti
non-sanctioned troll
tjhooker said:
Maybe you should be less emotionally attached to your dust attracter *ends reverse tjhooker*
You totally took the statements and made them into something that was not even said. Who is stirring shit up?
OldJadedGamer said:
Actually no I wasn't! I was referring to the same people who show up in every Sony/PS3/PS3game related thread and start talking shit, (I'm not referring to you) like the guy yesterday trying to convince people certain PS3 games suck, but then admitting he's never played them. Or like in this thread people trying to guess how much money Sony has lost & trying to make their guesses look like fact. Or the last LBP thread were you have 50 people (funny how most of them never showed up in other Sony related threads) saying it won't sell shit, and then admitting they don't know anything about the game.
Its the same bullshit day in day out! A thread can't get passed 2 posts before some idiot attempts to derail it. And I know this is a two way street, the same shit happens in 360 threads I imagine.
As for beermonkey@tehbias post about the OP, I totally agree!
PS: Sorry about the rant, but this shit gets to be annoying!
xaosslug
Member
beermonkey@tehbias said:
but that's not trolling OR stirring shit up. Unless you're saying posting positive PS3 news = trolling/stirring shit up on GAF these days. The OP reading into Hirai's comments and extrapolating his own conclusion (which is what I'd say OP did) is more along the lines of reaching.
these be very turbulent times.
westical said:
Look at the first few of pages of almost any Sony/PS3 related thread. You will see the same names pop up, talking crap! I guess they can't help themselves or something.
I just don't understand it. Most people that frequent this site on a regular basis, pretty well know I don't currently own a 360, but do you see me in 360 related threads talking shit? No! Because I have no business talking about stuff I don't know about or stuff I don't tend to follow.
There are people who I know don't own PS3's, or favor the 360 or Wii, who do frequent Sony/PS3 threads, but they don't talk crap, they bring useful insight into threads, those I don't mind, but the constant bs talkers are fucking annoying!
Anyways I'll stop now, as I don't want to do a meltddown!
Beer Monkey
Member
xaosslug said:
Trolling is posting something controversial in order to bait people into responding. Just the act of lying itself makes a post more controversial, and having it make like Kaz said something silly is more controversial.
If the OP had posted 'Kaz: We hope to be profitable in '08', this thread wouldn't be half the size. Hell, it wouldn't even be postworthy. Of course they hope to be profitable in '08, that's just common sense.
Firewire said:
That's a good practice. I wouldn't be in this thread if I didn't own a PS3.
beermonkey@tehbias said:
Well I know you own a PS3, but I wasn't referring to you in a negative way either, posters like yourself & benjaminberdie and others tend to bring intelligent discussion to threads. Its just some of the others.
Anyways I've managed to do what so many others try to do by derailing this thread.
My Apologies!
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
HEY MAYBE!
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More porn for Blu-Ray. :lol
Nizz
Member
Agreed. This generation of systems in particular has been really bad. And it's not just here, it's everywhere. I was reading a thread on another forum were the topic was about the PS3 Orange Box suggestion thread. I shit you not, the next 2-3 pages were about a couple of people arguing about achievements in the game. Achievements! This whole thing is getting silly. Every system out there has something for everyone. If the system being discussed is not one you favor, you're entitled to your opinion. But to just constantly crap on a system you don't own just cause... It's getting tired.Firewire said:
Beer Monkey
Member
Firewire said:
Hey, no apologies needed. I agree that there are people on all sides (from stuff like the Blu-Ray victory to Live getting 10 million subs) that try to crap on good news. I just think this specific thread is silly and I'm highly suspect about the original post.
Sony getting PS3 profitable is a good thing for this industry. Nobody should want them to fail.
xaosslug said:
It's not just a conclusion, it's a thread where the very title is a lie. Kaz never said that.
Firewire said:
Post like yours help to bring the system wars on topics. Just let them troll, like the 360 trolls and the wii ones and a mod will hit them. No need to help them derailing tthe threads.
and :lol at the title in comparation with the reality. I hope they get 50$ off this year, that way it will be the same price as the 360 here and I will finally get one (in time for LBP, fuck yeah!)
InterMoniker
Member
WTF???beermonkey@tehbias said:
:lol Why do any of you care if Sony profits in '08? It's good for us gamers. Why would xbox fans care if Sony profits or not when the 360 hasn't profited? My god
InterMoniker
Member
Yeah now think of 10 Sony exclusive all selling that goodAnth said:
MGS4,Killzone 2 Resistance 2 Motorstorm 2 Socom GT5 ect ect ect
Wow :loltjhooker said:
So complain about the 360 not being profitable it's in worse shape than the ps3 now.beerbelly said:
:lol
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
everyone in this thread is an economist.
everyone knows the price of components going in the ps3.
everyone
EVERYONE
everyone knows the price of components going in the ps3.
everyone
EVERYONE
InterMoniker
Member
I don't.beerbelly said:
I don't see what u did there.
Supaman223
Member
:lol :lolfps fanatic said:
Dos it matter? The other Sony divisions make big commitment to push Blu-ray (meaning pay out $$$ to Warner) I would hope that the gaming division is making money soon.
BTW, I was reading wiki the other day, Sony paid FIVE BILLIONS to get MGM, and then gave huge chunk (international distribution right) to Fox to keep them in the Blu-ray camp. Sony has invested way more in Blu-ray than the gaming division.
BTW, I was reading wiki the other day, Sony paid FIVE BILLIONS to get MGM, and then gave huge chunk (international distribution right) to Fox to keep them in the Blu-ray camp. Sony has invested way more in Blu-ray than the gaming division.