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Kaz Hirai: PS3 was built with Move in mind

ChryZ said:
Hate hub of the day?
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We are making (up) history here.

10 years for now, people will still believe Sony said PS3 was built with Move in mind. Just look at all the ":lol" here. It's a fact already.

Edit - *points to next post* You see?
 
If the PS3 was designed with Move in mind, why did you go with standard Bluetooth spec, which only allows 7 devices to connect to the machine?

Or was Move/PS3 designed to support 3 players max from the beginning? :lol
 
I believe that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet.
 
gofreak said:
There's a major disconnect between the thread title and his comment.

His comment's a much broader one on why it was good to have lots of power in PS3 to help future proof it. He's covering things like 3D there too, where that kind of comment makes a lot more sense.
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You're damage controlling obvious bullshit PR? Now I seen it all. :lol
 
I believe it. When the Nintendo announced their motion controller Sony kept their lips sealed regarding Move out of good taste, and then out of honor and all around good sportsmanship decided to delay release until this year. They're certainly not the sort of company that would revel in undercutting the competition given the chance.
 
GrotesqueBeauty said:
I believe it. When the Nintendo announced their motion controller Sony kept their lips sealed regarding Move out of good taste, and then out of honor and all around good sportsmanship decided to delay release until this year. They're certainly not the sort of company that would revel in undercutting the competition given the chance.
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Thumbs up.
 
BishopLamont said:
You're damage controlling obvious bullshit PR? Now I seen it all. :lol
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I'm simply pointing out that the thread title (or article title) isn't in tune with the comment.

The quoted comment isn't nearly as controversial as at least one other in interview which I wouldn't remotely attempt to 'damage control', because that one is purely PR bullshit. This one though is being twisted. His comment simply doesn't say what people are getting their panties in a bunch over.
 
gofreak said:
I'm simply pointing out that the thread title (or article title) isn't in tune with the comment.

The quoted comment isn't nearly as controversial as at least one other in interview which I wouldn't remotely attempt to 'damage control', because that one is purely PR bullshit. This one though is being twisted. His comment simply doesn't say what people are getting their panties in a bunch over.
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"Well not just 3D, but the Move and Blu Ray too. Those are things we talked about internally before the launch"
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You seriously believe this? How is this comment not in tune with the thread title, it's exactly what his trying to say.
 
BishopLamont said:
You seriously believe this? How is this comment in tune with the thread title, it's exactly what his trying to say.
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That comment it's not what's in the thread title. It's not what I was taking issue with.

However, I don't think it's incredible that they did 'talk internally' about all those things - in various guises - prior to PS3's release. They may not have have firm plans or finalised implementations or whatever but 'talking internally' hardly implies that.

edit - and no, it's not in tune with the thread title. 'Designing with x in mind' != 'talking internally about x'. Far from it.
 
gofreak said:
I'm simply pointing out that the thread title (or article title) isn't in tune with the comment.

The quoted comment isn't nearly as controversial as at least one other in interview which I wouldn't remotely attempt to 'damage control', because that one is purely PR bullshit. This one though is being twisted. His comment simply doesn't say what people are getting their panties in a bunch over.
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While the rest of his comment clearly talks about planning ahead, these opening lines:

It's interesting you mention the PS3's 3D DNA there. Was that a consideration that Sony had dealt with before the console's launch?

Well not just 3D, but the Move and Blu Ray too. Those are things we talked about internally before the launch.
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can certainly be interpreted as what the thread title suggests. Especially when you consider his answer to the next question:

Kaz Hirai said:
Well, both 3D gaming and the PS Move were things we discussed many many years ago.
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REMEMBER CITADEL said:
While the rest of his comment clearly talks about planning ahead, these opening lines:



can certainly be interpreted as what the thread title suggests. Especially when you consider his answer to the next question:
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The question was in relation to Sony building future-proof consoles. There's nothing there saying PS3 was made with Move in mind, rather it's saying they had ideas for the future in mind when creating it. There's a difference
 
REMEMBER CITADEL said:
can certainly be interpreted as what the thread title suggests. Especially when you consider his answer to the next question:
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Only if you've very poor reading comprehension.

The thread title suggests the PS3 was designed specifically with Move in mind.

That's nonsense, and it's not what he said nor implied. The gist of his comments is that PS3 was designed to be future-proof they gave it lots of processing power blah blah blah, and you're now seeing how helpful that is when introducing things like 3D and Move. And that they 'talked about' 3D and Move some time back, that these were things on their radar.

That does not imply that they designed the PS3 specifically for Move, that the PS3 was built around it, as the thread title suggests he says. Far from it.
 
I think that it's important to look at the preceeding quote:

Regardless of when you bought – or buy – your PS3, it's firmware upgradeable to play 3D games and 3D Blu Ray movies later on this year. That sort of new technology we're bringing in, but any tech that would lead to us having to say “sorry you can't have this” to people who bought PS3 four years ago is a no-go. It's just not a good message to send to our consumers.
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The interviewer then asks specifically about 3D. Kaz's response is intended to show that it wasn't just 3D that they're capable of adding to the system. As for having already considered support for wand-based motion control at some point down the road, surely it would be more surprising if they hadn't "talked about" this at some point during development meetings for a system that was going to be launched at the same time as the Wii? Something along the lines of:

"What if people really like this wand motion control stuff?"
"Well, we're sticking some rubbish sensors in the SIXAXIS - so we can claim to already have motion control, sort of. I suppose if people really want a wand, we'll just send out a firmware update and make a wand. What are the EyeToy people up to these days? I saw some wierd tech demo involving a plate..."
 
Requisite:

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gofreak said:
That does not imply that they designed the PS3 specifically for Move, that the PS3 was built around it, as the thread title suggests he says. Far from it.
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I disagree, it's a statement you can certainly spin both ways, and considering Sony's tendency to lay claims to various things they have no real rights to ("revolutionary" Sixaxis technology, being the "official" leader of the industry, even the recent silly slogan "3D world created by Sony"), it's easy to see why most people would interpret it the way they did. In any case, it was a very poor choice of words.
 
NinjaFusion said:
You guys know that one of the first eye toy demos was a witch tracking a coloured ball, right?
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it's also the first thing you learn to do in computer vision lessons... it doesn't prove anything concerning Sony's strategy and motion sensors.
 
pakkit said:
Requisite:

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This makes me laugh. He was asked what foods each of the consoles was most like, and did not say the wiimote was a lollipop. The reference to being too old for Lollipops was a jab at the lack of mature titles on the system.

Sony have taken a more mature approach to the Move, which will enable casual and core gamers to enjoy it. Thats evident from the launch window titles and some of the announced titles to be using it. Killzone 3, Sorcery, Heavy Rain and SOCOM 4 are good examples of this. If the PS move is a lollipop, it tastes like a steak dinner.
 
Hey guys.. I'm just gonna join in and post "lol" without reading the whole OP. I just need to read the thread title to comment.. right?
 
WTF Eurogamer? That's not what he said. He said the PS3 was built to be as 'futureproof' as possible. It wasn't built with Move in mind at all.
 
Metalmurphy said:
It's like I'm in 2006 all over again


And I'm not talking about the article in the OP
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Seriously. The title of this thread missed the point of the quote entirely, the thread took the title on faith treating it like fact, inanity continues even as people with memories step in (and are accused of 'damage controlling for PR').

Fucking odd, how new GAF works.
Metalmurphy said:
Why wouldn't you believe it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isHJAyCICw4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PtoxKDcCXc

This is from 2004-2005.
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:lol
 
Night_Trekker said:
Wow. That is pretty bad :lol
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He's denying that they ever considered a PSP2. He is trying to make it seem like the motion sensors would be a part of a PSP refresh and not a PSP successor.

Shitty PR that deserves a follow-up question.
 
Gattsu25 said:
He's denying that they ever considered a PSP2. He is trying to make it seem like the motion sensors would be a part of a PSP refresh and not a PSP successor.

Shitty PR that deserves a follow-up question.
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he's denying the pspgo exists
 
gcubed said:
he's denying the pspgo exists
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He's saying that they will not add new features that would make the games impossible to play on older hardware (this line of reasoning only makes sense if you are talking about hardware refreshes/revisions). I'm not even going to lie, I know nothing about the PSPgo and was never really interested in it, but what features did it add that would make games PSPgo-exclusive?
 
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