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Ken Kutaragi : "I can produce the PS3 anytime" (or: DrGAKMAN's meltdown thread)
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BlueTsunami
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Kolgar said:
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What a fucking train wreck this thread is!!
So much unbridled hatred towards Sony and KK with almost no recognition that sony may have in fact contributed something to the industry when the evidence is the opposite.
I swear if Ken K farted in public there would be a massive discussion on the merits of said fart with some of the N-fans claiming that to be the most evil act ever perpetrated.
So much unbridled hatred towards Sony and KK with almost no recognition that sony may have in fact contributed something to the industry when the evidence is the opposite.
I swear if Ken K farted in public there would be a massive discussion on the merits of said fart with some of the N-fans claiming that to be the most evil act ever perpetrated.
SolidSnakex
Member
LuCkymoON said:
And that very good point is what?
Illuminati
Member
If said event would ever occur, I think we would be discussing the ventilation holes in his pants or lack there of.seanoff said:
hukasmokincaterpillar
Member
LuCkymoON said:
You mean that sophomoric nonsense about being enraged because games have become adopted by the mainstream and now his beloved hobby isnt the esoteric domain of geekdom he once knew and loved?
I wonder if this is the way some people reacted when movies started catching on. "I was there before talkies were cool man! You fucking posers!"
That's it GAF...let out all thy anger upon thee. The more you strike me down, the more entertaining I become. I am the epitomy of N-tard's, you just keep me around as the village idiot ignoring my valid arguments and instead pecking at my admitted weakness. One day though...ye shall be scorned. Woah be to those, for ye hath been warned...the hour cometh of crow eatery...
SolidSnakex
Member
Amir0x said:
The only thing I could gather from it is
1.) Games were better off when they weren't as mainstream as they are.
2.) Sony is wrong for having a vision that games could be much more than toys.
SolidSnakex said:
What riled me up about this is the comments about how Sony like somehow invented 3D gaming and that "maybe" or "eventually" someone else would've progressed into 3D gaming if Sony hadn't. That argument is assinine...and I went on a tangent rant about it 'cos I think some people give Sony WAY too much credit and those same people don't seem to give Nintendo enough credit by almost ignoring their efforts in the NES/SNES era.
I have no problem with more people getting into games, but alot of these same people would never have touched games in the past 'cos they weren't "cool" and insuch make fun of the games that I grew up with like as if they didn't matter.
All In The Family paved the way for Married With Children, which paved the way for Family Guy...to give too much credit to one while ignoring another is...ignorant IMO.
Wait, who thought or implied Sony "invented" 3D gaming? How the heck could anyone think that without being laughed out of the forum?
Also, DrGAKMAN, you are seriously unstable. I'm talking seriously, unless you're a joke character. Why the fuck do you care what other people think about the games you like? Discuss your opinions, but in the end it should not cause you to act the way you do. Which is to say, like a maniac.
Also, DrGAKMAN, you are seriously unstable. I'm talking seriously, unless you're a joke character. Why the fuck do you care what other people think about the games you like? Discuss your opinions, but in the end it should not cause you to act the way you do. Which is to say, like a maniac.
SolidSnakex
Member
DrGAKMAN said:
I don't think anyone has argued that they invented 3D gaming. The generation argument is that they had a big hand in pushing it forward. To sum it up, if Sony never entered gaming with the PSone do you think they'd be in the same state they're today? Whatever the answer is to that is what this thread as evolved into.
The Take Out Bandit
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Onix said:
I'm not trying to bring this all down on Onix...'cos I've heard/seen these thoughts elsewhere on this forum and out in...life...I just am amazed by how much credit Sony is given. Ignoring the PC movement towards 3D gaming, let's look at Nintendo and SGI rendering with DKC and their efforts with the FX chip...obviously they were moving towards this. Let's look at Sega/Namco in the arcades specifically back then. To me VF meant as much for the beginning 3D gaming evolution as Mario 64. Yet the mainstream mentality is that N64 was a non-factor and that Sony/PlayStation did it all.
Maybe I'm over reacting, but that sorta just...made no sense to me.
Alot of you seem to think that I don't give Sony credit for much...I do, they truly popularized gaming to a point beyond what Nintendo could do...this is both a blessing to us as gamers, but it's also sort of a slap in the face of the efforts Nintendo made with the NES...or even Atari or Sega. Why? Because alot of people seem to think Sony like invented gaming or downplay what Nintendo had done...not saying you guys are like this, this is more dirrected fury at casuals who know not what they do.
I appologize for my "meltdown" but back before it was acceptable to talk about games in public there were N-tard's like me who were ridiculed just for playing them. Not calling us martyr's or anything, it just kills me a lil' inside when people won't put credit where credit is due.
SolidSnakex
Member
DrGAKMAN said:
The N64 gets alot of credit. Just go click on the thread about what people consider to be the defining games of a generation. Almost everyone, whether they be Sony, Nintendo, Sega or MS fans picked Mario 64 for the defining games of last gen. It meant alot.
DrGAKMAN said:
They're what's referred to as the Playstation generation. For them, Sony is what brought them into gaming so in a sense they did create gaming for them. I don't really think its taking away from Nintendo or anyone that came before Sony. It just shows that as Nintendo, Sega, and Atari meant alot of the previous generation, Sony means just as much to the new generation of gamers.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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I didn't notice the thread title change. Good call! :lol
DrGAKMAN said:
Please do not take my thoughts out of contact in such a manner.
If you read my 'gigantor' post (2nd to last post on page 5), I believe my opinion is at least somewhat clear.
Youre above statements appear to be a combination of putting words in to my (and others) mouths, and in some cases a disregard for the actual historical timeline of events.
You seem to be arguing with someone who isnt even there.
Buffy4ever
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hahahax said:
Actually, their were Video game consoles before the Nes and Nintendo. I guess you haven't heard of Atari 2600, Atari 5200, Celecovision, Intellivision, and even a game cosole in 1967 made by Baer.
1967
Baer and his team succeed in creating an interactive game that can be played on a television screen. They develop a chase game and follow it up with a video tennis game. They also modify a toy gun so it can distinguish spots of light on the screen. that was the first Light gun.
Intellivision ddin't have a joystick , they had a pad you pressed. So Nintendo didn't have the first pad controller.
Atari made the first analogue Joystick for the 5200.
Atari had sport games on the Atari 2600. they had a simple Boxing , Hockey and Baseball.
First platformer was Smurf on Colecovison.
thier were shooter in the arcade before Nintendo. acutally zaxxon made by Sega was one of them. so Radarscope was not the first shumup.
actually. thier were modern 3d games in the arcade before Mario 64. Jumping flash and many others were made by Sony before Mario 64.
Starfox was not the first game to use Polygons. actually EA had a flight simulators that used polygon before starfox. Also hard drivin used polygons. both in the arcade and on the Gensis cartridge.
You have so much mis information it is unreal. Nintendo did not invent all you said. Nintendo is not god of the vido game world.
SolidSnakex
Member
Onix said:
He's a joke character. In another thread he accused 1up of being anti Nintendo because they listed the MSX MG as the real version instead of the NES game.
Buffy4ever
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hahahax said:
Actually, their were Video game consoles before the Nes and Nintendo. I guess you haven't heard of Atari 2600, Atari 5200, Celecovision, Intellivision, and even a game cosole in 1967 made by Baer.
1967
Baer and his team succeed in creating an interactive game that can be played on a television screen. They develop a chase game and follow it up with a video tennis game. They also modify a toy gun so it can distinguish spots of light on the screen. that was the first Light gun.
Intellivision didn't have a joystick , they had a pad you pressed. So Nintendo didn't have the first pad controller.
Atari made the first analogue Joystick for the 5200.
Atari had sport games on the Atari 2600. they had a simple Boxing , Hockey and Baseball.
First platformer was Smurf on Colecovison.
thier were shooter in the arcade before Nintendo. acutally zaxxon made by Sega was one of them. so Radarscope was not the first shumup.
actually. thier were modern 3d games in the arcade before Mario 64. Jumping flash and many others were made by Sony before Mario 64.
Starfox was not the first game to use Polygons. actually EA had a flight simulators that used polygon before starfox. Also hard drivin used polygons. both in the arcade and on the Gensis cartridge.
You have so much mis information it is unreal. Nintendo did not invent all you said. Nintendo is not god of the vido game world.
DrGAKMAN said:
Then stop interpreting things that just aren't there.
I apologize that my earlier post was pretty huge, but I needed to clear up some apparent misinterpretations of my opinion in the matter (if not some of what others have said). I can understand that some people can get a little defensive, what with all the Sony-bots here - but please take my statements for what they are.
I do not believe I am doing anything beyond giving due credit to Sony within the confines of the current discussion. No more, no less.
There are some other (unrelated) favorable things I could say about Sony, just as there are an incredible amount of positive things I could say about Atari, Commodore, NEC, Nintendo, Sega, SNK, etc
I have a love for all of them, and their many contributions to gaming.
BTW - Just for some clarity on my position ...
I am 30 years old, and practically started playing games when I was old enough to hold an Atari joystick. A few years later I moved on to the C-64.
In my life I have owned:
Consoles:
Atari 2600
Sega Genesis (and Master Gear converter)
SNES
Turbo Duo
Saturn
Playstion
N64
Dreamcast
PS2
NGC
X-box 360
Portables:
GB
GameGear
Lynx (2nd version)
NeoGeo Pocket Color
GBA
Computers:
C-64
numerous PCs (Win and Linux-based)
Random:
TI (can't remember the model) calculator hacked to play some games
N-Gage QD
I don't play games nearly as much as I used - only due to my current lifestyle (career, girlfriend, etc.) ... but expect to start playing again more and more.
Back in the day, I used to import games for my Genesis, Saturn, Duo, and DC even (still have some of them laying around) - though I doubt I'll ever be able to be that hard-core again.
At least not until I retire, or hit the lotto
I am 30 years old, and practically started playing games when I was old enough to hold an Atari joystick. A few years later I moved on to the C-64.
In my life I have owned:
Consoles:
Atari 2600
Sega Genesis (and Master Gear converter)
SNES
Turbo Duo
Saturn
Playstion
N64
Dreamcast
PS2
NGC
X-box 360
Portables:
GB
GameGear
Lynx (2nd version)
NeoGeo Pocket Color
GBA
Computers:
C-64
numerous PCs (Win and Linux-based)
Random:
TI (can't remember the model) calculator hacked to play some games
N-Gage QD
I don't play games nearly as much as I used - only due to my current lifestyle (career, girlfriend, etc.) ... but expect to start playing again more and more.
Back in the day, I used to import games for my Genesis, Saturn, Duo, and DC even (still have some of them laying around) - though I doubt I'll ever be able to be that hard-core again.
At least not until I retire, or hit the lotto
SolidSnakex said:
I only brought up the NES games because 1up conveniently forgot to mention Twin Snakes. I felt that had the game been a remake for PS2 they would have mentioned it. What I did was to employ counter-measures:
Letting it be known that for NES-gamers, both games were actually considered to be the real Metal Gear games for a larger audience for a very long period.
Something that now is forgotten, because now its all about Kojima. And he weren't involved so the games now suck and were abortions etc.
Yes, NES-gamers once had the largest Metal Gear mind share.
I felt that 1up spat on the "Nintendo legacy" as I worded it.
For 1up to be fair, they should have mentioned Twin Snakes as at least being the possible defininte version. The CGN remake even had Kojima's official backing, yet it was omitted.
deadhorse32
Bad Art
Lots of old timer know I'm a nintendo fan but DrGAKMAN & hahahax STFU please