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Kid Rock: Beyoncé doesn't have any memorable songs
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Zen_Arcade
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I just looked at your links and the first one has an LCD Soundsystem song as it's number two. The song they picked has literally never charted in America, and has no recognition to most of the public here. Again, these are lists of "Greatest", not most memorable. These are lists that are judging on quality, not longevity, and there are plenty of great songs that aren't remembered by everyone anymore.
The other two were littered by songs I seriously doubt people are going to consider classics years from now. Hell, I can't remember the last time I heard "Crazy" anywhere, and it's the number one song on that Rolling Stones list.
Mercury Fred
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Many people feel this way.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Michael Jackson not more influential than the Beatles? OHHHHHHHHH KAY. I'm gonna bounce off of this one. You can have it.
Firstly, you have no receipts to prove this. And her lip-syncing twice doesn't make her some lack talent who can't sing all of a sudden. Everyone has their bad days, but I have waaaaaaaaaaay to much evidence of Bey singing live than of her lipsyncing, and that's well documented......(Cont. below)
And.......
Yet every artist who jumps at her for this doesn't go ahead and do the same thing. Go figure. The women who makes the music herself never even acknowledged that she makes anything memorable, but the people who either don't like her music, don't like her, don't understand it...is always questioning it as if it changes anything to how big she is and why she continues to be a bigger success, (in his words) than she is WORTH needing to be.
To end this so I can leave, Beyonce really doesn't care. Neither does she entertains it. Because memorable or not, she inspires, she has a talent that she isn't wasting and doing whats she wants making her music that she wants to make. Kid Rock should focus on that before coming at memorable as having a memorable song is not a metric for actual success and acclaim. Maybe not recognizing something as memorable actually makes it memorable if we even have to discuss it. Done.
I don't really agree with the placement myself because I don't use "crazy" or that LCD song, but it was a memorable song to them apparently.
And many more people feel she is memorable.
But Beyonce doesn't have to compete against Prince and MJ. It's an irrelevant comparison since these are different times.
That said I certainly agree that she is not the biggest pop star - you can't call yourself that with no hit single out.
Same with me but it's Solange. She has some really nice collabo stuff with Blood Orange..
Stan for the greatest parking lot performer the world has ever known.
Mercury Fred
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She's the one who got all of the talent in the family. Poor beyonce. Trying too hard when li'l sis is able to make it effortless, cool and relevant.
Nope, she is the superior child of destiny. Shit, Bey isn't even the superior Knowles sister.
Zen_Arcade
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You're saying this like you have evidence to prove me wrong? By every metric I can think of the Beatles were more popular and influential then Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson wasn't even number two on the most number one songs.
I think this is just another example of how you don't have any idea about the popularity of things outside of your scope of reference. Michael Jackson's biggest hit was even a duet with one of the Beatles.
It's my fault for not reading the initial post of the conversation, or I would have seen where you were getting the numbers. I should have known something was up when the premise of the conversation was that "7/10" of Beyoncé's top ten hits went to #1, when she had than ten top ten hits. :|
Well, what is the point of saying that someone lipsyncs [on occasion] if not to suggest that they cannot sing? It came after you called her a terribly generic pop singer, after all.
The Sarcastic Dude
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Single Ladies has had far more impact than that shitty AATB song.
styl3s
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I don't know, i can pretty much sing the entire bawitdaba song and name most songs off devil without a cause and i haven't heard it in like 15 years and i hate Kid Rock. Beyonce? Can't name a single song or a lyric.
But to be completely fair music was never really a part of my life aside from classic rock and when i was forced to watch the grammys i only knew Madonna and Beck and my mind is still being repaired from seeing Beck win a grammy.
robotzombie
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yeah, you probably should
Muffdraul
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Can't say I'm a fan of Kid Rock, but I'm with him on this. Purely down to subjective taste. I have no clue how anyone could listen to Beyonce or any of that other diva pop shit and not want to gouge their own ear drums out with a rusty screwdriver. Just as I'm sure they would think of some of my favorite music. Viva le diferance, makes the world go 'round.
It hasn't. And frankly this comment is low key weight -shamey? I'm not sure.
Really? If it's that difficult for you to Google them, then why even bother responding to the thread?
I can only remember Dilemma, Work, & Motivation from her. All three of those songs are bops though.
Tragicomedy
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"Which is the Beyonce song where it's like we're independent by also you should marry us but like we're super-strong but also pay our bills?"
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Don't play your hand too early, sis.
Chie Satonaka
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Agreed on the first count. I don't know enough about Solange to say one way or the other on the second.
mmm hmmm... if I'm not mistaken, she also wrote some of the Destiny's Child hits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy9W_mrY_Vk and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjQYLgNhMU8 she's pretty good
Uncle Rupee
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And she's better looking than Beyonce, too.
True. Dark and delicious beats bleached and boring all day, every day.
Yep. Some of Destinys child stuff comes close. But none of her solo stuff.
i mean like a little bit
honestly the only one i can think of off the top of my head is work (freemasons edit)
but then again
what
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fucking
SONG
The Sarcastic Dude
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Let's not....
Kelly Rowland: The true Child of Destiny.
Rowland may be better in every way but it's still kinda weird to know more songs by her than Beyonce, come on. She's only on the radio during leap years.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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I'm not discrediting the Beatles impact at all. But he said modern music artist and Michael Jackson is certainly one of them.
Imo, The Beatles and Michael Jackson can exist on the same parallel.
Q
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Isn't kid rock the guy that a few of his first hit songs were singing over other people's music
At least Kelly doesn't have to resort to showing her body off in public for promo.
AcademicSaucer
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he's one of the few artists that i won't just laugh at someone for suggesting they're on the same level as the beatles
that said
i still think the beatles are on a different level
Nice. You're my favorite right now.
Mercury Fred
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Not even remotely close.
Zen_Arcade
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You can hold that as your opinion, but history would say otherwise. Michael Jackson was by far the biggest music star of our era, but he still doesn't reach the status of the Beatles. Literally no one does.
He did transform modern pop...
Juke Joint Jezebel
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Don't like the man or his "music" but I have to agree with him. "Single Ladies" & "Shine Bright Like A Diamond" in particular are fucking awful dreck. Especially the latter.
Off the top of my head Single Ladies (probably her best shot at an iconic song), Baby Boy (with proto-Pitbull Sean Paul), Drunk in Love (mainly because of that insipid SURFBORT shit), Crazy in Love, and Irreplaceable are all that spring to my mind. There are more good songs alone on Talk a Good Game which is out now on iTunes.
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