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[Apeopleman]

Forget an RPG.

I want an action adventure game. A hack and slash one.

 

[Canis lupus]

Nooo I want a Killzone RPG! Although I don't think this is the end of KZ, SF will probably sell lots (its a launch title) and GG will want to make another quick one before shelving the IP.

Where is the evidence that either Killzone sold millions?

Everything KZ does is done better by other developers. Hence why they're not a A tier developer. To count Guerilla among the biggest FPS developers in the world is lunacy. A lot of the love for them comes from people who have a great affection for Sonys WWS. Outside of this, they're unknown.

Killzone 2 is the best shooter of the gen, it was truly something unique before they went after the CoD crowd.

 

[TheRealTalker]

Still a long way off? I thought they had been working on it for years now.

I'm guessing that they where working on what genre for it to be, story, etc....

and not telling on what Genre it is right now is just them trying not to have the limelight of KZ SF be taken away before it's released

 

[Twix]

I'm not sure getting a FPS specialist to make an RPG out of nowhere will end well.

Naughty Dog was never a TPS specialist but they ended up making one of the bests ever (Uncharted 2).

 

[EmptySpace]

Forget an RPG.

I want an action adventure game. A hack and slash one.

quantum-mechanical high five from EmptySpace.

 

[Endo Punk]

Killzone 2 is the best shooter of the gen, it was truly something unique before they went after the CoD crowd.

If they went after the COD crowd with their last(latest )game, what makes everyone trust them now?

 

[HigherLevel]

Open world RPG or an action RPG would be sweet.

 

[Glorified G]

Where is the evidence that either Killzone sold millions?

Everything KZ does is done better by other developers. Hence why they're not a A tier developer. To count Guerilla among the biggest FPS developers in the world is lunacy. A lot of the love for them comes from people who have a great affection for Sonys WWS. Outside of this, they're unknown.

Killzone 2 alone has past a million in the first month it released over four years ago

It's not that hard to extrapolate with Killzone 1 and 3 that the series well into the millions.

And the rest of your post is just personal opinion that doesn't hold any weight in the grand scheme of things. I could go on and on about Ubisoft and Team Meat producing better and more innovative platformers than Nintendo has with nsmb series and the only reason people play them is because of great affection and nostalgia to Nintendo's history. Or talk on how Forza is a low tier franchise because GT sells much more.

Lots of trolls in this thread that think reality is shaped around their opinions.

You just summarized my post in one sentence

 

[Finalizer]

It's like he doesn't use words correctly.

I mean for fuck's sake, the Forza titles sell multi-millions, and Turn 10 is a cult developer now? I can understand there's bigger kids on the block, but the exaggeration is just nonsensical.

 

[NoMoreTrolls]

I mean for fuck's sake, the Forza titles sell multi-millions, and Turn 10 is a cult developer now? I can understand there's bigger kids on the block, but the exaggeration is just nonsensical.

His opinion > facts. I guess the only thing that can be done is to avoid feeding the troll.

 

[bLaiSe]

I always thought they have been working on it for a while now. Huh...
I wonder who will make the KZ games from now on. Does GG has another team besides of KZ team? (I really hope GG Cambridge stays a handheld dev)

 

[RoboPlato]

I always thought they have been working on it for a while now. Huh...
I wonder who will make the KZ games from now on. Does GG has another team besides of KZ team? (I really hope GG Cambridge stays a handheld dev)

They have two teams at the main studio.

 

[Hindle]

@GlorifiedG;84111Killzone 2 alone has past a million in the first month it released over four years ago

It's not that hard to extrapolate with Killzone 1 and 3 that the series well into the millions.

And the rest of your post is just personal opinion that doesn't hold any weight in the grand scheme of things. I could go on and on about Ubisoft and Team Meat producing better and more innovative platformers than Nintendo has with nsmb series and the only reason people play them is because of great affection and nostalgia to Nintendo's history. Or talk on how Forza is a low tier franchise because GT sells much more.


Killzone 3 sold signifantly less in its first month. 288k to be exact. To me that makes the franchise very niche. It's obvious Guerilla struggled to get people's interest.

As I said, hopefully any new IP can be less generic and offer something unique.

 

[RoboPlato]

Killzone 2 alone has past a million in the first month it released over four years ago

It's not that hard to extrapolate with Killzone 1 and 3 that the series well into the millions.

And the rest of your post is just personal opinion that doesn't hold any weight in the grand scheme of things. I could go on and on about Ubisoft and Team Meat producing better and more innovative platformers than Nintendo has with nsmb series and the only reason people play them is because of great affection and nostalgia to Nintendo's history. Or talk on how Forza is a low tier franchise because GT sells much more.


Killzone 3 sold signifantly less in its first month. 288k to be exact. To me that makes the franchise very niche. It's obvious Guerilla struggled to get people's interest.

As I said, hopefully any new IP can be less generic and offer something unique.

Selling almost 300k copies in a debut month is nowhere near a niche franchise.

 

[TheRealTalker]

I always thought they have been working on it for a while now. Huh...
I wonder who will make the KZ games from now on. Does GG has another team besides of KZ team? (I really hope GG Cambridge stays a handheld dev)

They have two teams at the main studio.

I can't see why they can't keep both I.Ps.... why are some people saying how they'll drop the KZ series

KZ SF in my guess will be a trilogy

 

[RoboPlato]

I can't see why they can't keep both I.Ps.... why are some people saying how they'll drop the KZ series

KZ SF in my guess will be a trilogy

I expect them to keep doing KZ and the new IP.

 

[bLaiSe]

They have two teams at the main studio.

I remembered correctly then. They have been working on this before surely. Maybe it's just the actual development that's started now.

 

[EmptySpace]

Killzone 3 sold signifantly less in its first month. 288k to be exact. To me that makes the franchise very niche. It's obvious Guerilla struggled to get people's interest.

As I said, hopefully any new IP can be less generic and offer something unique.

kz3 still sold 1.6 mill in its first 5 months. that is nowhere near niche, so shut up already.

 

[bLaiSe]

I can't see why they can't keep both I.Ps.... why are some people saying how they'll drop the KZ series

KZ SF in my guess will be a trilogy

I wasn't sure if they had two teams. I hope they'll continue KZ and not another dev.

 

[HigherLevel]

I remembered correctly then. They have been working on this before surely. Maybe it's just the actual development that's started now.

I'm guessing the story, concept, idea, and art has all been established already so like you said full development is just now starting with Killzone almost out the door.

 

[Hindle]

Selling almost 300k copies in a debut month is nowhere near a niche franchise.

Sales for the game dropped off a cliff after the first month. It's obvious they've had trouble generating interest in the franchise.

Sales in the UK were very low as well.

Edit. Anyway, I don't want to derail the thread any further.

 

[BloodMoney]

It is a niche IP.

Even L4D sold better then either KZ game.

CoD sold better than everything and it fucking sucks...........

 

[TetraGenesis]

Exactly, which is why it's a terrible game.

In your opinion.

Man, you sure do miss the point a lot.

 

[EmptySpace]

Sales for the game dropped off a cliff after the first month. It's obvious they've had trouble generating interest in the franchise.

Sales in the UK were very low as well.

Edit. Anyway, I don't want to derail the thread any further.

that 300k first-month sale was because killzone 3 released on feb 22 which is 6 days from the monthly npd. so in fact it was 300k first-week sales.

and as EmptySpace have said, kz3 sold 1.6 million in 5 months. so yes go ahead and shut up already.

 

[jett]

Nice. GG's games are superlative from an artistic and technical perspective, Killzone 2 has some of the strongest art design seen in a game. Will be interesting to see what they can do outside of the KZ universe.

 

[Acquiescence]

You must have not read the part where he says something totally different than Killzone. Meaning not a FPS.

I bet its a platformer... with guns.

Please don't be a fps, please don't be a fps. They said they want to branch out to other genres, so that's a good sign.

Dolan pls.

 

[TheRealTalker]

well they had some weird pitches most of which if not all where dropped
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2012/03/08/three-projects-from-killzone-devs-in-the-works
http://www.ps3blog.net/2010/12/27/guerrilla-games-new-ip-a-aaa-fps-with-fantasy-elements/


and they've been expanding on some character artist teams from being small around February:
https://twitter.com/guerrilla_jobs/status/299071682000326656

September more Artist:
https://twitter.com/guerrilla_jobs/status/379879294991736832
https://twitter.com/guerrilla_jobs/status/380228075025215488
https://twitter.com/guerrilla_jobs/status/299071682000326656



I'm guessing that they got the route of their idea now and are busily drawing characters and places for their game

 

[killatopak]

Killzone Kart Racing yo.

THIS!!!!!

I'd like a RPG. Something along the lines of Valkyria Chronicles but with more movement.

I think they'll be making something along the lines of Mass Effect though.

 

[Jeb]

Weren't they doing this sometime ago?

Anyway, this is good.
I always though they had talent when it comes to the tech department, but it always felt like a waste since Killzone is a generic dime a dozen shooter.
They remind me of crytek, best in the graphics department but you just wish they would do another genre...although, I'm not fond of Ryse.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

At least 2015 then?

 

[BibiMaghoo]

SHMUP please!

 

[killatopak]

At least 2015 then?

I think so. They'll probably announce the game E3 2015 then release at Q4.

 

[btkadams]

i'd be really interested to see what guerilla would do with an rpg. i've never been sucked into a wrpg though (tried many times). i've really enjoyed guerilla's games, so maybe i could get into a wrpg from them.

 

[KOHIPEET]

I would really love to see a medieval-fantasy game infused with a little alternative steampunk sci-fi from them. An RPG or MMO. Of course the whole thing executed in their dark, gritty approach.

Spoiler

(And as an FPS. Sorry I love first person shooters)

 

[Opus Angelorum]

I think so. They'll probably announce the game E3 2015 then release at Q4.

Should be crazy looking, I can't see it being anything other than a shooter though.

 

[HigherLevel]

I think so. They'll probably announce the game E3 2015 then release at Q4.

I think we'll see it before then. Maybe Gamescom 2014 or the VGAs next year.

 

[astroturfing]

i just hope it's something they themselves REALLY want to make, and not some Uncharted-clone Sony pressured them to make.

i have faith. we'll see.

 

[TetraGenesis]

I would love to see them do an open world RPG. Even if it's a shooter. WWS needs an open world RPG in its repetoire bad.

Hopefully Guerilla's experiment with more open level design in Shadowfall is a test for both the engine and the team.

 

[killatopak]

I think we'll see it before then. Maybe Gamescom 2014 or the VGAs next year.

Well it depends. If they can reuse assets it'll definitely be earlier. If they're gunning for a totally new game with a new engine then it'll take longer.

 

[skdoo]

If they want to be REALLY different, would like to see a 3D platform game from them. Something bright and cheerful, and able to provide major differentiation to the portfolio of blow everything up games that have become so common.

 

[velociraptor]

If they want to be REALLY different, would like to see a 3D platform game from them. Something bright and cheerful, and able to provide major differentiation to the portfolio of blow everything up games that have become so common.

Knack?

 

[NoMoreTrolls]

If they want to be REALLY different, would like to see a 3D platform game from them. Something bright and cheerful, and able to provide major differentiation to the portfolio of blow everything up games that have become so common.

They did that. It's called Knack, and it's generally shit on by people on the internet. The market just doesn't crave these kinds of games anymore, sadly.

 

[davepoobond]

A puzzle game is my wish

 

[Prince Vultan]

Fuck new IP Guerilla. You know what has to be done here:

G-Police reboot.

 

[GameAddict411]

I hope it's something new and fresh, not another genric FPS(not refering to killzone).

 

[Sidewinder]

Fuck new IP Guerilla. You know what has to be done here:

G-Police reboot.

Colony Wars first then we'll talk.

 

[pushBAK]

Not an FPS, or if so a RPG-FPS a la Dishonored. Stoked to say the lease, Guerrilla makes quality content IMO.

 

[velociraptor]

Not an FPS, or if so a RPG-FPS a la Dishonored. Stoked to say the lease, Guerrilla makes quality content IMO.

Dishonered is such a boring game.

Give me a Mass Effect.

 

[Motley Grue]

About damn time.... I never felt that Killzone was a very strong or compelling IP to begin with. Always seemed like a rushed attempt to have a sci-fi shooter to compete with Halo.
Will admit I am very impressed with Mercenary though.

 

[Derrick01]

In your opinion.

Man, you sure do miss the point a lot.

It's because you're incredibly easy to mess with