aygomyownroad
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Microsoft's e3 showed me that I was right to buy one.
The Sony show told me I should buy one in a couple of years
The Sony show told me I should buy one in a couple of years
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Kinda Funny Games (who won e3?)
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Newtype-001
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People downplaying the significance of sonys conference. 😷😧
Imperfected
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Microsoft had really good content, but their delivery still needs some work. The actual stage show still had some awkward and stilted presentations and completely worthless gratuities (ceiling car). The overall pacing was a bit off, too.
The actual content and "message" were good, though.
The actual content and "message" were good, though.
While I also think Sony should have had at least one major exclusive for the holiday season..I can't imagine it being a big issue at all. I mean this holiday season is STACKED!
Sony won E3 by a mile.
Great focus on games with a ton of gameplay.
New IPs like Horizon and Dreams
Reviving old fan favorites through partnerships Shenmue/FF7
Reviving TLG
Some features/services related announcements
Cool looking indies
Some truly big marketing deals via Call of Duty (which is imho a big blow to MS), BF, Batman etc etc etc
This was one of the most balanced and hype inducing conferences of all time.
Sony won E3 by a mile.
Great focus on games with a ton of gameplay.
New IPs like Horizon and Dreams
Reviving old fan favorites through partnerships Shenmue/FF7
Reviving TLG
Some features/services related announcements
Cool looking indies
Some truly big marketing deals via Call of Duty (which is imho a big blow to MS), BF, Batman etc etc etc
This was one of the most balanced and hype inducing conferences of all time.
E3 is about showing off the future of gaming. Discounting Sony because they don't have much for this year is a fallacy because what is coming out this year is mostly already known, therefore not creating much excitement. We want to see what the future holds, and Sony had an impressive showing in that regard.
Not to mention saying that backwards compatibility, much less Limited backwards compatibility (I remember bc on the 360), is the most exciting thing at the MS conference, I think says a lot. When it should be Halo, or Gears, it's old games people are excited about more that what new is coming out?
Don't get me wrong, I love backwards compatibility, I wish PS4 it, I'm upset that PS4 can't play PS2 and PS1 games. But I'm more interested in future titles coming out than the system being able to play old games.
Though all that seems a bit hypocritical when I'm really excited for FF7 remake...
Not to mention saying that backwards compatibility, much less Limited backwards compatibility (I remember bc on the 360), is the most exciting thing at the MS conference, I think says a lot. When it should be Halo, or Gears, it's old games people are excited about more that what new is coming out?
Don't get me wrong, I love backwards compatibility, I wish PS4 it, I'm upset that PS4 can't play PS2 and PS1 games. But I'm more interested in future titles coming out than the system being able to play old games.
Though all that seems a bit hypocritical when I'm really excited for FF7 remake...
1.21Gigawatts
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I don't think it matters to an E3 presentation how the things shown might actually turn out when they release.
I'm also very sceptical of Shenmue 3, but that doesn't change the fact that it was a huge announcement. Its was one of the most anticipated announcements of all time.
The fact that Last Guardian looks the same as in 2009 is extremely irrlevant. ICO and SotC are two of the best games of all time and no matter what you favorite game of recent years is, these two are likely to have influenced the creators. Beeing a spiritual two these two is huge, and nobody cares about the visuals here. Besides all that, the game still looks fantastic.
This doesn't change a thing about the significance of this announcement.
UC4 demo uninspired? They actually showed something new: Vast environments, insane destructibility and driving.
Its not not like people didn't freak out about the first part of the demo, it was GAFs second best of E3, even before the extende demo release. And in my opinion the first part was more impressive.
But even if that wasn't for you, compare it to all the other gameplay demo shown, there is no doubt that it was 2 levels above everything else except Horizon, especially compared to TombRaider we have a clear winner.
Also the fact that FF7 is not completely exclusive doesn't matter one bit. FF was always a Playstation franchise and I wouldn't be surprised if SE doesn't even bother with porting it after the timed exclusivity is done.
If you want to pick the conference apart like that, you have to do it for everyone.
Ms:
Tomb Raider is only timed exclusive.
ReCore only CGI.
BC only for selected games.
Gears demo was truly uninspired and boring and didn't even look that impressive, the game is also far off.
That one I mean for real. Gears and TR demos were really really bad.
Looks like a crappy conference.
Portugeezer
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E3 has never been solely about this year's holiday.
Tripolygon
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It is very akin to the narrative that Sony has no games for PS4 because they dare to spread out their lineup throughout the whole year and not just stack them for holiday only.
BlackBuzzard
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Yeah i don't know why this now all of a sudden became a thing. Reminds me off the PS4 has no games or Gamescom matters because Microsoft is finally showing something new there.
SprachBrooks
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You mean stuff we already knew was coming out in Fall 2015? MS didn't announce anything new that came out immediately this year.
It's amazing how people constantly move goal posts so as to detract from Sony/PS4 in terms of its gaming line-up relative to the competition when in reality they're doing as well – and not front loading – their games for one season of the year.
geordiemp
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No, the purpose of E3 is to gain market share for your product. Thats it. Its a marketing exercise of future releases to get people to buy into that ecosystem. Works for hardware and software. Its a marketing extravaganza and is probably measured in such ways (although looser metrics can be used like tweets, forum reactions, attendance etc)
The purpose of GDC is not dev kits...
If your market share increases more than your competitors for the months following E3, that is a success and you actually won...as that is the aim of all 3 console makers and why they do it.
I go to trade shows (not game related) and that is why we go (although the beer is nice).
Yes 50 gamers on a forum or a few journalists may vote one way or another, but their significance is much less than THEY think.
If Sony beat MS hands sown this month on NPD, they will chalk it up to their E3 showings, and visa versa so will MS.
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FUNKNOWN iXi
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Listening to Tim defend Nintendo is painful sometimes.
Sangetsu-II
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I thought it was unanimous but i guess not.
haha, That's a good Gif. Now that I think about it.
GankzyMcfly
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If ff7 is multiplat why does sony get e3 credit for it?
BlackBuzzard
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When did they announce other platforms outside Ps4?
LookAtMeGo
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If the objective of E3 is to get people excited about what you are showing, which I think it is. Then it really is no contest.
Regardless of who showed more or when what they showed is coming out. You can usually tell who "won" E3 by the crowds reaction to the conference and the buzz surrounding it afterwards.
Regardless of who showed more or when what they showed is coming out. You can usually tell who "won" E3 by the crowds reaction to the conference and the buzz surrounding it afterwards.
Ok....I just saw the live E3 reaction to FF 7 remake. I missed bits n pieces of E3 this year.
Sony might have won E3 just on that alone....add TLG and ....
I will post this yet again...I followed FF 7 and MGS to the PS One after being a huge Nintendo fan. Those 2 games alone were enough for me to say I was glad I got a PS One.
Sony might have won E3 just on that alone....add TLG and ....
I will post this yet again...I followed FF 7 and MGS to the PS One after being a huge Nintendo fan. Those 2 games alone were enough for me to say I was glad I got a PS One.
you missed the point of that post, being that literally everyone at E3 showed off the future
Shining Sunshine
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Good post.
What has me thinking after seeing reaction videos...that opening is iconic. Some ppl knew as soon as the pan down happened, some didnt believe until they saw the sword on Cloud's back. Some when they heard the music....
Amazing stuff.
Amazing stuff.
Shining Sunshine
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Man, listening to it and they're already wrong. Only No Man's Sky and Uncharted Collection for PS4? LOL
Gipsy Danger
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Was it the company with no major announcements or the company with no releases in 2015? I don't know if it's that clear. But fuck it, these hipster press sneak fucks amirite?
I mean I can understand why everyone thinks that way, but I never played any Shenmue game, or finished FFVII or Ico. Something like Rare replay sounds a lot more exciting TBH. I guess because I played all those games on N64. That said, I'm still looking forward to see how TLG and FFVII remake will pan out.
Well, unless they're being especially cheeky, "First on PlayStation 4" would indicate that there will be a release on a second platform. Possibly more.
AmuroChan
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Because there's not what winning E3 is about. Winning E3 is about who put on the best show and who had the most memorable announcements. The best way to look at is - if you own both consoles and have no fanboy bias for either platform, which conference spoke to you the most? Which conference is the one that you'll remember most a year from now, 5 years from now?
FFVII Remake is SFV scenario according to Kagari. Shenmue 3 is going PC/PS4 only.
AmuroChan
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I think all it indicates is that Sony doesn't have the exclusivity locked down and that there's a possibility that it could come to other platforms later.
A lot of games don't say outright they're exclusive to one platform, but ends up not releasing on any other platform anyway.
So they're both multiplats. Unless PC doesn't count?
The amusing thing about this whole Fall focus is that even now, Sony is quietly dropping exclusives willy nilly, whilst many for some reason are still hammering on about only Fall. Rocket League, Helldivers, Planetside 2, Galak-Z, Ziggurat, Ether One, Everybody's Gone to Rapture, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, FFX Remaster, GOW3 Remaster etc. Game releases ought to be spread out, and we ought to be interested in games releasing throughout the year, not just confined to the already busiest few months, towards only the end of the year.
I thought it was a pretty piss poor showing to be honest, mostly excited about the Rare Collection even though I don't have an Xbone. Then there's Fallout 4, but will it alright on the PC? Skyrim launch was horrible in that regard, and can it even top New Vegas? TLG didn't show me anything we didn't get to see years before, good to know it's still being developed but it takes far too long. FF7 remake is alright, Shenmue 3 is alright, but I want to play good games this year. Mario maker seems more awesome than I thought it would be with a plethora of different options. Horizon looks cool, but it's Guerilla games, not really a developer I have a lot of trust in.
I don't know guys, I guess Ryu in Smash made Nintendo win for me.
I don't know guys, I guess Ryu in Smash made Nintendo win for me.
I actually follow Colin's line of thought in regards to the amount of exclusives this holiday. I would love to see how this plays out, because I honestly don't believe it matters gap wise. PS4 has defied all expectations on basically nothing, and I don't see that stopping.
Plus I really do believe people aren't crediting Sony when it comes to Eastern exclusive titles. That's a big deal for an audience that needs to be swayed.
Plus I really do believe people aren't crediting Sony when it comes to Eastern exclusive titles. That's a big deal for an audience that needs to be swayed.
And now that I've watched the whole thing, this Colin dude is harsher than me on Nintendo but I can see where he's coming from in a lot of ways. Definitely going to be following him going forward since he seems to get it.
Even if you haven't personally played them you have to admit they are heavy hitters and made a huge impact.
Even if you haven't personally played them you have to admit they are heavy hitters and made a huge impact.
I love Kinda Funny but they've been saying this for months and it really isn't that accurate. I think a lot of it stems from Colin's tendency to dismiss anything and everything that doesn't suit his personal tastes.
Sony "won"
e3 tp me because of the awesome Uncharted 4 showing and Horizon: something something looks beautiful.
I might allow myself to get excited about Shenmue 3 closer to when it's finished and The Last Guardian when I see more interesting gameplay. I have not cared about Final Fantasy 7 remake since the PS3 tech demo and that was only because it's pretty. I've never cared about actually playing the remake.
I thought Microsoft had a great conference too, but I guess a lot of people disagree with that.
edit: yeah, I watched these vids a while ago, and as I used to not like Colin in the past I'm starting to really like him more and more the more I hear him talk
Translation: I thought Sony had the best conference at
I might allow myself to get excited about Shenmue 3 closer to when it's finished and The Last Guardian when I see more interesting gameplay. I have not cared about Final Fantasy 7 remake since the PS3 tech demo and that was only because it's pretty. I've never cared about actually playing the remake.
I thought Microsoft had a great conference too, but I guess a lot of people disagree with that.
edit: yeah, I watched these vids a while ago, and as I used to not like Colin in the past I'm starting to really like him more and more the more I hear him talk
This is what you posted
Are you talking about NPD for the month of June, or are you talking about NPD's for the remainder of the year and beyond?
Trojan
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Everything is a contest
Black Duke
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AwesomeI thought it was unanimous but i guess not.
Portugeezer
Member
For real. If Sony had held back Bloodborne and Order 1886 for Holiday people would be jizzing themselves. Meanwhile I don't remember any Xbox exclusive at the same period for comparison (because people compare Sony and MS E3 conference)
Sony's was fanfiction and I'll always remember it as the most hype I've ever experienced watching E3, I doubt anything will ever beat it.
Nintendo was a disaster for me, nothing at all of importance sadly.. but the presentation was fun.
MS's was.. ok but most the games they spoke about or announced I had no interest in, Gamescom will probably be a lot better for me as Scalebound and Crackdown will be there.
Nintendo was a disaster for me, nothing at all of importance sadly.. but the presentation was fun.
MS's was.. ok but most the games they spoke about or announced I had no interest in, Gamescom will probably be a lot better for me as Scalebound and Crackdown will be there.
But those two games were already held back before.
Raonak
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MS would win best lineup of holiday 2015, but that's not really what E3 shows are about. Announcements, trailers/gameplay, and pacing.
Sony without a doubt had the best E3 conference. They had the 3 mythical games + Horizon and Uncharted 4. I personally thought it was the best E3 conference i've ever seen.
Sony without a doubt had the best E3 conference. They had the 3 mythical games + Horizon and Uncharted 4. I personally thought it was the best E3 conference i've ever seen.
Which company has no releases in 2015?
geordiemp
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You know what I meant...the sales following a marketing event is the barometer....I guess some will look at the following month, some will look at following quarter..., some will take a rolling average....who cares ? Its statistics.
My point is that subsequent market sales is the metric of success, not 3 journalists stating what they liked or a poll of 100 votes on a web site, or who shouts the loudest.
All my opinion is I know Nintendo WiiU fortunes will not change, I am undecided if MS or Sony will profit the most from their E3 efforts so it will make the next few months interesting. This months NPD after E3 is the next indicator therefore most interesting.
Kindafunny had some good points about MS winning, BC may help them allot in USA market, but they dont understand why Sony is currently ahead (its bloody obvious, the games run better but what do I know, thats why I moved Ps3 to 360 last gen, and 360 to Ps4 this gen)