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Kinect priced at $150 in Microsoft's official online store
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Stillmatic
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You don't need to use it. You can use the left side of a standard controller (DS3/6XS) for the left hand.acm2000 said:
Hypereides
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derFeef said:
Respectfully I disagree. There are few articles and observations such as in the Your Shape game that has pointed out that there may be a problem with precision.
Taken before (Microsoft conference) and after (ubisoft conference), with the same person.
Alx
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highluxury said:
Precision in height measurement will depend a lot from the distance to the camera... the further you are, the less precise it is. The difference observed in the Ubi demo may be explained by that.
Anyway the important thing is more depth precision, and the silhouette was just as defined in both cases.
SonOfABeep
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highluxury said:Respectfully I disagree. There are few articles and observations such as in the Your Shape game that has pointed out that there may be a problem with precision.
Taken before (Microsoft conference) and after (ubisoft conference), with the same person.
well, they do say you're shorter in the evening than in the morning, right?
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Maybe she wasn't standing up straight in the ubisoft demo. Could be a lot of things.
What isn't arguable is the price. Fuck $150. I'll check it out when it gets clearanced around next September.
Clear
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Anyone else find it amusingly ironic that the arguments about long-term cost versus buy-in cost for Kinect v. Move are a mirror of their parent platform's pricing strategy at launch.
You know, PS3 = high buy-in cost but comprehensive feature-set, versus 360's buy add-ons to match features later, after starting from a more modestly priced base-unit.
You know, PS3 = high buy-in cost but comprehensive feature-set, versus 360's buy add-ons to match features later, after starting from a more modestly priced base-unit.
Katana_Strikes
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Clear said:
Yup it's exactly the same thing.
learnedhand
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It may be good at tracking large body/limb movements, but I have seen nothing to indicate the ability to track smaller, more subtle hand and wrist movements.derFeef said:
I want to buy this, but I have a Wii and a PSeye. For $150, it needs to do something truly exceptional, but for the life of me I can't see what that would be.
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If they pack in Kinect Adventures or Sports or Kinectimals with the $150 package, this thing will sell really well. Bundling it with an Arcade 360 for $299 will also do wonders.
manueldelalas
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I think $99 with a game is expensive for this thing (2 shitty cameras + 4 mics??), I'm sure the actual cost of camera + game is below $50.
This is a marketing strategy to reveal the price at $99 and people will think it's cheap.
I predict failure. Miserable failure
This is a marketing strategy to reveal the price at $99 and people will think it's cheap.
I predict failure. Miserable failure
BattleMonkey
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It will sell at first, but it won't be able to keep up past the initial release window, the Wii this wont be.
Maastricht
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I'm predicting there will be an Arcade Slim bundle with Kinect for $299 including a game, and standalone Kinect will ship for $149 with one game.
fortified_concept
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manueldelalas said:
I agree completely. I mean, this doesn't make sense. Why do they have the price on their official site but they haven't announced it officially yet? This might be my usual suspicious self but I think they might bullshiting us to make it look like 100$ for an SD camera with IR is cheap, later when they announce the new price.
infinityBCRT
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Maybe its intentional that MS is sending this to die, or maybe they are encouraged that its been #1-3 on amazon (along with the 360 S and Xbox Live Gold card) for a week. Who knows.
I think the technology might just not be good enough in this thing. It runs at 480p 30fps. I've gotta think you need a 720p 60fps camera at the very least (1080p 120fps would be ideal but expensive) to have a lag free and accurate motion sensor. MS should just forget this version of Kinect ever happened and then come out with the Xbox 720 next year with a Kinect HD bundled with it for $349.
I think the technology might just not be good enough in this thing. It runs at 480p 30fps. I've gotta think you need a 720p 60fps camera at the very least (1080p 120fps would be ideal but expensive) to have a lag free and accurate motion sensor. MS should just forget this version of Kinect ever happened and then come out with the Xbox 720 next year with a Kinect HD bundled with it for $349.
Alx
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infinityBCRT said:
You would need a better connexion than USB2 to allow that, though...
I think the max bandwidth of USB2 is 480 Mb/s
Quick estimation (if data is uncompressed and depth is 8 bits) :
RGB + depth camera @ 30fps = (3*8 + 1*8)*640*480*30 = 300 Mb/s
There's not enough bandwidth for higher resolution or framerate.
Graphics Horse
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I'm amazed that the standard camera is still the same as DSi camera resolution if those numbers are right.
I don't know if it's 24bit, but isn't the PSEye meant to run at twice the framerate? Edit: oh, that would just about fit actually. 442Mb without sound.
Alx said:
I don't know if it's 24bit, but isn't the PSEye meant to run at twice the framerate? Edit: oh, that would just about fit actually. 442Mb without sound.
highluxury said:Respectfully I disagree. There are few articles and observations such as in the Your Shape game that has pointed out that there may be a problem with precision.
Taken before (Microsoft conference) and after (ubisoft conference), with the same person.
That's actually quite funny lol...
Woo-Fu
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JaseC said:You can substitute it with a SA/DS3, though. You'll look like an idiot holding half a controller in your hand, but at least it saves you money.
You're dancing around your living room waving a wand with a glowing pink or blue ball on the end of it. Is looking like an idiot really a concern at that point?
highluxury said:Respectfully I disagree. There are few articles and observations such as in the Your Shape game that has pointed out that there may be a problem with precision.
Taken before (Microsoft conference) and after (ubisoft conference), with the same person.
The shrinkage factor is not going to go well for the male audience.
Wildstar75
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150 with no game. I am going to hold out hope that Microsoft isnt completely off their rocker, and change their minds before launch.
RoninChaos
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The Move looks like a dildo crossed with a tootsie roll pop. Kinect looks like a chunky web cam.
Why can't we just use controllers?
Why can't we just use controllers?
Dedication Through Light
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SonOfABeep said:
The only issue is that she is farther away in one of them. However as she said in the press conference, she already knew here height so there was something wrong in the one where she is shorter.
Though it can be taken with a grain of salt since the device is still being tinkered with (software wise) and isnt coming until November.
Hopefully it comes with a demo disc or something at $150
TheExecutive
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Hellsing321 said:
They dont even need to do that as the kinect still requires a 360.
infinityBCRT
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I guess compression wouldn't be an option unless the 360 hardware was built with it in mind.Alx said:
So when you use a USB hub, is the max bandwidth of the whole hub 480mb/s or does every individual connection have 480mb/s? If so you could divide the stream among 3-4 USB connections to get something faster.
So maybe theres a technical limitation to the 360. If the next Xbox has USB 3.0, I'm guessing that limitation goes out the window though (4000Mb/s).