Dance Central puts the player in the action with the freestyle/pictures part. I think this mere feature makes it more appealing. I don't see a night and day difference in terms of fun to be had in both games, but overall Dance Central is certainly a better game.InaudibleWhispa said:
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Kinect System & Game Review Thread [Update: Lots Of Reviews Post 223]
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InaudibleWhispa
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If casual players are fully playing along with both games, they'll probably have fairly equal amounts of fun, true. But I know my friends would cheat when playing Just Dance and put in a half-arsed effort to fully dance whilst making sure their Wii remote swings are close to perfect. With Dance Central, if they want to beat me, they're going to have to really get their dance on!marc^o^ said:
MightyHedgehog
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Only for video-specific features, like Kinect ID or picture taking. You can play the games with virtually no light otherwise and the same applies to the Kinect hub navigation.Mashing said:
AlphaTwo00
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Where the hell are you getting this. I was playing with some ambient light, and I don't consider it bright in any way. The MS setup in the Midnight launch was even worse, dark tents, and it had still worked pretty well.Mashing said:
Unless you are playing in a completely dark room, I don't think it's even an issue.
Psychotext
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Yahoo's "we read the manual but didn't bother testing anything" review.AlphaTwo00 said:
Dude Abides
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I think the space requirement will preclude me getting this until I move. Manhattan apartment FTL.
Carl said:
They don't seem to be too impressed with Kinect overall so far.
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/04/kinect-review/
Cornbread78
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From all the predictions and marketing out there, and the fact that GameStop was not doing a midnight launch, I was expecting lines last night at the store (the only 24 hour one around), but there was noone there and only received 1 call on it.... Did anyone else see thi type of activity?
BuggyDClown
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I just don't get it.
The biggest complaint seems to be space requirements and the hub.
The space thing is dumb, you need fuckin room. Period. Standing 4-5 feet from the TV would be pretty close especially for two people your hit one another as well, should be obvious.
The hub could have just been designed better, but regardless its not why i got the kinect.
The only thing I took away was launch games stink, and really I'm not surprised. I am excited on the other hand to see what the XBLA and Indie community does with Kinect as well as up coming games in the next few months. Sure it's disappointing, but really I assumed I'd end up with sports and adventures for the first month or so.
Now if the system doesn't preform well, thats another story, but there's no accounting for people being uncoordinated either. I'll post back later once it arrives with my own impressions.
The biggest complaint seems to be space requirements and the hub.
The space thing is dumb, you need fuckin room. Period. Standing 4-5 feet from the TV would be pretty close especially for two people your hit one another as well, should be obvious.
The hub could have just been designed better, but regardless its not why i got the kinect.
The only thing I took away was launch games stink, and really I'm not surprised. I am excited on the other hand to see what the XBLA and Indie community does with Kinect as well as up coming games in the next few months. Sure it's disappointing, but really I assumed I'd end up with sports and adventures for the first month or so.
Now if the system doesn't preform well, thats another story, but there's no accounting for people being uncoordinated either. I'll post back later once it arrives with my own impressions.
supermackem
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Big One said:
Why would you there totally different things.:lol
Community Forum
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dark10x said:
I have a copy from Amazon out for delivery, so yes.
plagiarize
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we had copies in the back room of my gamestop last night ready for launch today, so yeah, it is.dark10x said:
HenryGale said:
An add on device for a console that requires you to rearrange your living space isn't just a bit silly? How many families do you think have 8 feet of space in front of their TV without rearranging their room?
Also, sunlight.
Chris Kohler said:
plagiarize
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how is it an oversight on MS's part? something like this being camera based, that does full motion tracking is going to require you (or however many players) are far enough away to be seen.JWong said:
the space requirements are on the box, and MS encourage sales people to point them out before completing the sale.
it's not an oversight, it's a reality of tech like this. maybe we'll get tech that fixes that one day, but many of us do have the space and MS have done their best to educate people about what it needs.
motion games require space. kinect does require a bit more yes, but that's not an oversight.
It is a "dumb" complaint because it isn't something that's Microsoft's fault but rather... well, a natural limitation. The camera needs to see most of your body and you need enough space to freely move around (stretch your arms, legs etc) without running into walls and furnitures.JWong said:
If you don't have enough room, then how would you even want to play those full-body motion games?
BenjaminBirdie
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Kintaro said:
The Gamespot video seems to show that this is not an insurmountable problem.
Kintaro said:
While I might fall victim to this as well, it is a limitation of the technology (the camera needs to fit you and the floor in the frame), it is not something that MS can correct easily or obviously it would have been done.
Like you mention, it is an addon...you don't need to buy it
Dunlop said:
But, this is the next step in games! Controller free (Call of Duty comes out the week after btw)! We are free from our shackles! We NEED this!
=) I kid. However, its a very expensive gamble for an add on. MS sure doesn't want a 32x on their hands so I would have thought that space would have been thought out a bit more. Limitation to the technology isn't really an excuse. People don't care. When you ask them to rearrange their homes? They start to care.
Kintaro said:
guess this guy didn´t get the message to rearrange his room.. or even tidy up his room..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj2GIcJQB5s
maybe his X360 is broken.. because it did not tell him to clean up his room..
DangerousDave
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Hanmik said:guess this guy didn´t get the message to rearrange his room.. or even tidy up his room..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj2GIcJQB5s
maybe his X360 is broken.. because it did not tell him to clean up his room..
The icon warning that he is out of focus is too small for the average casual player, it seems :lol
Jack Random
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Kintaro said:
You know, i thought it was expensive too until i put it in perspective with things like rock band and the like (RB3 with keyboard is $130)
plagiarize
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he's got his camera off center too, and it seems to be working in less than ideal conditions.Hanmik said:guess this guy didn´t get the message to rearrange his room.. or even tidy up his room..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj2GIcJQB5s
maybe his X360 is broken.. because it did not tell him to clean up his room..
get2sammyb
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HenryGale said:
Oh I disagree. Whether it's simply a staple of the tech that they couldn't work around or not, it is a big deal.
You can't really pretend it's not important, because it is. The same problems apply to Wii and PlayStation Move of course, but it's slightly easier to accomodate for them as opposed to this it seems.
It clearly is going to be an issue.
Revelation
full body motion games require space --
I can't get kinect because its not wireless, i am in the same (if not worse position) than Dark10x ...I am not running another cable in the wall and through the ceiling.
Isn't there some wireless/bluetooth device that you can plug on the end of a usb to make it wireless (and of course the other side)? would seem like the tech for that exists.
full body motion games require space --
I can't get kinect because its not wireless, i am in the same (if not worse position) than Dark10x ...I am not running another cable in the wall and through the ceiling.
Isn't there some wireless/bluetooth device that you can plug on the end of a usb to make it wireless (and of course the other side)? would seem like the tech for that exists.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Jokergrin said:
Yeah, I'm not understanding the surprise here. It's like being astonished that you can't play your handheld from across the room.
It's a camera tracking your entire body flailing around, people. Of course you have to stand far back from the TV.
Kinect Review: MTV
"when it comes to quality, there's simply nothing on the level of a "Wii Sports" or a "Gears of War" in that line-up...the sort of launch game that will convince you that your $150 was well-spent.
In addition, there's a whole mess of really dreadful games for Kinect which you should avoid like the plague. Games that either don't work or are the total opposite of fun.
The first of these disaster games is "Kinect Sports," which clearly attempted to cash-in on the "Wii Sports" phenomenon, but ended up being a mix of sub-par minigames with poor controls.
"Joy Ride" is another one to avoid. The "Mario Kart"-style racer has you driving a car by sticking your arms out in front of you...something that will get old and exhausting after the first race (let alone after a dozen). Insensitive controls don't help, and you're likely to be slamming into walls more often than not.
If you're the sort of person fascinated by new technology, who needs to be on the cutting edge of gaming, Kinect is worth your time. Some of the games are genuinely fun and you may get some use out of video chat. It's also extremely cool tech and the experience of playing it is unlike anything I've seen before.
On the flip-side, if you're a non-gamer who bought the Wii a few years ago to play "Wii Sports" and "Wii Fit," but you haven't touched the console in months, you should skip out on Kinect, as it's likely to gather even more dust in your apartment.
As for the hardcore gamers, you should wait it out. Despite the cool tech, none of the launch games are going to be anything you'll be playing a month from now""
They like the technology but fear it will share the same fate as WiiFit until new games arrive in 2011.
"when it comes to quality, there's simply nothing on the level of a "Wii Sports" or a "Gears of War" in that line-up...the sort of launch game that will convince you that your $150 was well-spent.
In addition, there's a whole mess of really dreadful games for Kinect which you should avoid like the plague. Games that either don't work or are the total opposite of fun.
The first of these disaster games is "Kinect Sports," which clearly attempted to cash-in on the "Wii Sports" phenomenon, but ended up being a mix of sub-par minigames with poor controls.
"Joy Ride" is another one to avoid. The "Mario Kart"-style racer has you driving a car by sticking your arms out in front of you...something that will get old and exhausting after the first race (let alone after a dozen). Insensitive controls don't help, and you're likely to be slamming into walls more often than not.
If you're the sort of person fascinated by new technology, who needs to be on the cutting edge of gaming, Kinect is worth your time. Some of the games are genuinely fun and you may get some use out of video chat. It's also extremely cool tech and the experience of playing it is unlike anything I've seen before.
On the flip-side, if you're a non-gamer who bought the Wii a few years ago to play "Wii Sports" and "Wii Fit," but you haven't touched the console in months, you should skip out on Kinect, as it's likely to gather even more dust in your apartment.
As for the hardcore gamers, you should wait it out. Despite the cool tech, none of the launch games are going to be anything you'll be playing a month from now""
They like the technology but fear it will share the same fate as WiiFit until new games arrive in 2011.
Joe Shlabotnik said:
If the cam had a wider field of view and they tuned the ir projector differently it may have been possible to accommodate more ranges.
Of course physics isn't MS's fault, but it's their responsibility to make something practical within the bounds of physics!
The MTV review is interesting. But again highlights notable reliability issues. '90%' reliability in even ideal circumstances is actually pretty bad, if judging it solely as an interface.
Littleberu
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marc^o^ said:
It appears like they have been burnt on some of the bad games and make an article about it instead of making an article about KINECT.
DangerStepp
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Carl said:
I've seen many references to the stiq of joy as of late. When were they removed from the list of banned sites from GAF?
Also--Dance Central has me itching to spontaneously run out and buy a Kinect like I'm randy and need a lady. After I pay up and get my fill, I'll lie there in a daze wondering what I just did.
As others have noted, that writer is the king of hyperbole. Everything he reviews is the best thing ever, according to his articles.K.Jack said:
I found this one particularly entertaining, however, as he seems totally enamored with the voice recognition. 70% of the review focuses on this one feature, a feature which has been present in many other devices for quite a few years now.
Skiptastic
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Stupid Costco needs to bring back the Kinect alone option. I don't want to rebuy an Xbox 360 just to get Kinect! >:O