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Kirk Cameron believes that GAY marriage is a sin
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Wow lol
HP_Wuvcraft
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Bananas had to have been made by God!
SquiddyCracker
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Kirk Cameron's birthday party.
I feel sorry for him
Same goes for Christians who are so hateful and quick to call this and that "sins".
So long as there is love, would God really mind?
Yeah, all you better do is say "Wow lol" because you have no chance of making a convincing argument.
Saying "wow lol" when you're losing a debate should be an auto ban.
Mathew 12:28-31
28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, Of all the commandments, which is the most important?
29 The most important one, answered Jesus, is this: Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. 31 The second is this: Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these.
But then again, what do I know.
As opposed to shouting "I don't care what you say, you are all hateful because I say so and you are the same as nazi sympathizers"?
Commandments and sins, not necessarily addressing the same things.
I don't know about that "the only sin that is not forgiveable", though. At least in Protestantism all sins are forgiveable by accepting Christ.
Where's the doable chick? Was Candice there?
Ignatz Mouse
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People like to fun of that Cameron pic, but there is another pic with a whole bunch more people, and apparently it was a church he was visiting doing this for him.
He's sad for the silly things his says, not for lack of fellow believers. Too bad.
He's sad for the silly things his says, not for lack of fellow believers. Too bad.
The one on the left. If you put a bag on her head and turn the lights off she might be doable. Might want to get hammered so you barely remember what happend.
Well you could try proving me wrong when I said the only difference between the two is that the holocaust is a real event. But that's what someone intelligent would do, so just go "wow lol" again.
The only thing that separates someone thinking I should be shot for my beliefs and someone thinking I should be shot by their invisible friend for my beliefs is that the first is a hateful person, while the second is crazy in addition to being a hateful person.
Well you could try proving me wrong when I said the only difference between the two is that the holocaust is a real event. But that's what someone intelligent would do, so just go "wow lol" again.
The only thing that separates someone thinking I should be shot for my beliefs and someone thinking I should be shot by their invisible friend for my beliefs is that the first is a hateful person, while the second is crazy in addition to being a hateful person.
Are the two groups exactly the same in every other facet?
I posted in the thread earlier. It's kind of a bombshell. If it's to be believed, it almost came out but was squashed because it might hurt her career.
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2012/03/todays-blind-items.html
Well you could try proving me wrong when I said the only difference between the two is that the holocaust is a real event. But that's what someone intelligent would do, so just go "wow lol" again.
The only thing that separates someone thinking I should be shot for my beliefs and someone thinking I should be shot by their invisible friend for my beliefs is that the first is a hateful person, while the second is crazy in addition to being a hateful person.
Probably because your position is so ludicrous that there's really not much that can be said about it.
Thinking that mankind has fallen short of the glory of God and wanting to spread the Gospel so that people will come to know Christ, and thus receive salvation
is the same thing as
Deciding that you are subhuman and should be summarily shot?
?
CornBurrito
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Oh shit, he is the crocoduck moron?
Are you telling me that you don't think that sinners deserve the just punishment your omni-benevolent god is dealing out?
These postmodern kids bringing the hate.
Trigger Warning
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And peanut butter, and bananahands.
What? Kirk Cameron's father is Robert Cameron. He's not particularly famous.
James Cameron is unrelated. And an atheist. His beliefs are dramatically different from Kirk Cameron's.
Heh, just please answer me this. What does this person think should happen or deserves to happen to someone who goes through his life and dies without ever believing in Jesus?
Is the answer unmercifully tortured for eternity? Yes or no?
(Not all christians are bad, just ones who would answer yes to this question)
And the Lord said unto them, "Heaven helps those who help themselves. Let my people pull themselves up by their sandal straps, and do not show kindness to the less fortunate lest they become lazy and lead to the creation of a welfare state." *
*THIS IS WHAT REPUBLICANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE.
Well, the answer is yes.
Except the difference is, is that christians DO NOT WANT that to happen to anyone. Whereas nazis WANTED to remove certain people from the world.
They are not in any way, shape, or form similar.
And that you even think that there are Christians that exist who do not believe in the concept of hell is pretty laughable. That's like saying "I'm a Christian, but I don't believe in God."
Synth_floyd
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What's with the woman on the right? She looks like she has REALLY short legs.
And I saw that dumb banana video. What a bunch of assholes.
Pretty sure there's plenty of christians that don't believe in a literal hell.
Synth_floyd
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What's with the woman on the right? She looks like she has REALLY short legs.
And I saw that dumb banana video. What a bunch of ignorant assholes.
Especially since most of the details of your classic fiery hell are lifted straight from the Divine Comedy. Not that much is said about Hell in the actual Bible.
I'm one of them sorta. Hell is definitely a place mentioned in the Bible, but not a place of torture.
Eternal torment is not something that occurs to sinners. Death has been grossly undervalued in terms of severe punishment for wickedness for some reason.
CornBurrito
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Preach it brother!
Supply Side Jesus all up in this thread.
If most Christians shared this belief Christianity would be vastly improved.
Yes, they do, you just said that they want that to happen to non-believers! Clearly not everyone in the world or has ever lived will become a christian. So there's no question they WANT this punishment to be inflicted upon people.
"Nazi sympathizers don't want anyone to die, they just think the whole world should be non jewish."
"Fundamentalist Christians don't want anyone to burn in hell, they just want the whole world to be christian."
Difference?
Serious question. Would you be fine with the holocaust and nazi supporters if Hitler gave the jews a choice to renounce their faith before putting them in camps?
Thinking there are some christians who aren't evil is laughable.. You heard it here, folks.
A lot, and I mean a LOT of christians do not believe in a literal hell.
Much like a lot of christians do not believe in a literal Genesis and believe in evolution.
A lot of christians who aren't pieces of garbage also don't believe homosexuality is an abomination even though that is in the bible.
"And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven."
mathew 12:31
seems pretty clear to me.
As per your statement . How can you commit sin without breaking god's commandments?
You did miss my point. I do realize that there is a problem with some Christians mistakenly thinking that the US is a Christian nation. I was thinking in more of a "should be" kind of way and also Scripturally.
Anyway, religion does not vote (That heathen Democratic Party doesn't support it either) but there shouldn't be a vote on gay marriage anyway. It doesn't matter whether it's popular or not. There is no reasonable secular reason to ban it.
There's any number of religious (& even cultural) reasons that don't matter for legal purposes.
Cool Escalator
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Who cares what some actor says? I do not understand why so many people care about random celebrity thoughts and opinions. These are not supremely educated individuals in most cases and their talents to do not relate to intellect.
"But they influence the children" Be a good parent and they won't. End of story.
"But they influence the children" Be a good parent and they won't. End of story.
Atramental
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The OP didn't want us to get GAY marriage confused with straight marriage, obviously.
Some people might have read the thread's title as "Kirk Cameron believes that straight marriage is a sin" if it weren't for the OP's capitalization of the word GAY.
I think this is a classic case of "What can I do to grab attention for my thread when all it's doing is stating the obvious?"
Sutton Dagger
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I just had a funny thought but correct me if I've misconstrued what you've previously said. Isn't your position that believers will go to heaven and non-believers will effectively cease to exist (essentially annihilation)? If this is the case, irrespective of who is right, I'm going to the same place I expect to go when I die, no where.
YesNOnoNOYes
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There's this girl at work. She's a nice girl. Bespectacled, quietly spoken and polite. However, once I had the misfortune of sitting with her at lunch. We were talking about our grandparents, and my nana was a Buddhist, and this and that, she, with her nicely-seeming face, concernedly told me that I should be saved, and that my soul will burn in eternal pain if I do not surrender to the love of the one true god.
So, I thought she was joking, and I asked, "Oh, are you being wittily joking?"
And she said, point blank, "No, your grandma is burning in hell right now. Don't join her."
I swear I felt ill for the rest of the day. Ill. And, angry.
So, I thought she was joking, and I asked, "Oh, are you being wittily joking?"
And she said, point blank, "No, your grandma is burning in hell right now. Don't join her."
I swear I felt ill for the rest of the day. Ill. And, angry.
Put like that, it still seems like a horrible belief system, doesn't it? I find it hard to believe that people in heaven wouldn't be mad at God for making their loves ones stop existing simply for having a different belief about him.
If God was really like say, a God actually worth worshipping, he would create a separate Earth like place for people that don't believe in him.
The real bombshell is in the comments section. Read the posts from "Himmmmm" and the subsequent reveal of who that is. Apparently he posts there often.
Zoe
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Who is she dating now?
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GAY marriage is like twice as gay as just regular gay marriage. They probably have the ceremony in rainbow tuxes and dresses.
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