As far as position and still id go top 3. Dribbling skill is over Jordan. Mental toughness, drive will always go to Jordan. In the end Jordan is a much smarter player and this helps him retain skill.I got him at 7 to 9.
All time that is.
It's going to rip me up when Dirk retires. Kobe and Dirk have so much respect for one another. It's too bad Kobe's body betrayed him towards the end.
Didn't Kareem retire after an NBA Finals loss in 89?
Goodbye Kobe. You were the most boring superstar athlete that I've ever witnessed.
Goodbye Kobe. You were the most boring superstar athlete that I've ever witnessed.
how does that not go to duncan
Annnnnd you took the bait...how does that not go to duncan
Would it be best to continue starting though? Fans will flock to the games to pay their respects but having to watch current Kobe play is like watching an animal suffer. Just put him out his misery and let him only play a few minutes.
It still bothers me that he wasted the peak of his prime with Kwame and Smush though.
As far as position and still id go top 3. Dribbling skill is over Jordan. Mental toughness, drive will always go to Jordan. In the end Jordan is a much smarter player and this helps him retain skill.
23 year old Jordan is probably still scoring goat though
While it's not fair to hate a player for taking as much money as they can get, he definitely hamstrung the Lakers by being the highest paid player in the league at his current skill and production level. Taking less money doesn't necessarily mean the Lakers could have taken advantage of the cap space (look at the difference between what the Mavs have done with Dirk's generosity compared to what the Spurs did with the cap space Duncan gave them), but they would have definitely been in better shape.
Even though it came at expense of my team, the Lakers, getting beat in the process, I was so happy for Dirk getting one.
Dude is so filthy when jumper is right.
The fact that chip came at the super team Heat's expense was super delicious, tho.
I really hope Dirk and TD announce a retirement while still playing. I'd love to see their final game in person.
I really hope Dirk and TD announce a retirement while still playing. I'd love to see their final game in person.
Shaq was never destined to handle success well.Brother, stahp. If him and Shaq had stopped all that fuckery, I legit believe they run off 6 or 7.
Maybe the 5pur5 never happen...siiiiigh.
It's going to rip me up when Dirk retires. Kobe and Dirk have so much respect for one another. It's too bad Kobe's body betrayed him towards the end.
I wonder what is next for Kobe? I don't see him coaching but I can't imagine him being away from the game. TV analyst perhaps?
dirk has a special place in my heart for giving us this
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Shaq was never destined to handle success well.
This fantasy requires Shaq to have continued working.
He pretty much stopped after the 2nd championship and coasted on his talent until it was too late.
Going back to my point though, it would have been cool to have seen what prime Kobe could have done with an actual NBA team instead of the trash he had with him.
Jordan was scoring buckets with ease well into his 30s and early 40s
This had to be the worst bait post I have ever seen.
And I have been on GAF a long while.
Better shape how? If you have been watching the NBA for the past 2 years, no one was signing with the Lakers regardless of them having cap space or not. Last season the Lakers had all the cap space in the world even with Kobe's contract, yet we still missed out on LMA, Deandre Jordan, Greg Monroe, etc. The year before that, Lakers had enough cap space even with Kobe's contract to max Melo and sign another big player to a good contract, and guess what? Didn't happen.
Kobe didn't do anything to hamstring the Lakers. Jim and Jeanie Buss did that to themselves by giving guys like that bum Nick Young a multi year deal, not trading or waiving Lin after he was acquired by the Rockets for their pick, hiring absolutely the WORST coaches like Mike Brown, Mike Dantoni over Phil Jackson (at completely the wrong time, he would do wonders offensively with the current squad funny enough), and of course, the worst of them all, Byron Scott which the sole purpose of THAT hiring was just to shut Magic Johnson up and quit complaining to the current Buss family.
To blame the owner's faults at Kobe is foolish and completely ignorant of the Lakers situation for the past half a decade. AND EVEN WITH ALL THAT BULLSHIT that has transpired for the Lakers organization, they still have a really nice young core moving forward with Russell Clarkson and Randle, as well as possibly keeping their top 3 pick if they continue to suck enough to do so. Which with Byron Scott coaching, is very possible. And then possibly adding Ben Simmons? I would say Kobe's current bad shooting has actually helped the Lakers future more than not.![]()
Jordan didn't tear his Achilles.
Jeez these posts.
Kobe's 2nd to last game before he broke his Achilles:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CWn7EcoargU
Sometimes I miss NBA-GAF.
One of the last players left that was in NBA Live for SNES and Genesis.
Dude played in 5 generations of consoles
As a Knicks fan at least we still have Fisher...that's something I guess.
The front office definitely deserves most of the blame, but you don't think other FA saw what Kobe had become? Why would they sign to play with Kobe taking up another max contract? If Kobe was taking what TD or Dirk was taking and you could talk to 2 top FA about playing with each other, plus a Kobe that's ready to step back and take a lesser role, I believe you end up with Carmelo+Bosh or something close to that.
dirk has a special place in my heart for giving us this
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Jordan didn't tear his Achilles.
Jeez these posts.
Kobe's 2nd to last game before he broke his Achilles:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CWn7EcoargU
What? That was literally not the reason why they didn't sign with the Lakers. They didn't sign because the fact of the matter is that the Lakers are not a playoff team. We had fucking nobody but an old injured Kobe. No chance to win any titles or even appear in the playoffs. Especially with an chaotic front office with Jeanie Buss trying to get rid of his own brother Jim canned out as owner and a completely clueless coaching staff that is WAY behind the times in statistical analysis.
Again, blaming Kobe for that is foolish.
I couldn't imagine looking at my name badge for work and then writing a poem to it when I retire in 30 years as a state employee.
And Phil!
Amazing career and one of the top ten players but this super early announcement is basically a farewell tour, insuring that he will be in the starting lineup, barring injury.