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[-COOLIO-]

There's really nothing else I can think of to say to this except fuck you, idiot.

great, fuck you too.

that's it, I'm done. There is no point even getting worked up over this.

it's been enlightening

 

[-COOLIO-]

Dude probably had depression for a while now. I don't know how long his father has been in that state, but that was probably the last cup of water that overflowed his bucket. Suicide usually isn't sudden regardless of stress and sorrow. Who knows, he might have done it regardless of his father's condition. Everyone calling him pathetic has no clue about his mental well being or how long he's been afflicted with such thoughts.

we cant know what the father son relationship was, but assuming his father cared for him, which is a safe assumption of most fathers, it's still a dick move to kill yourself when you could wait a while longer and spare the poor man additional grievance. even if he reached his breaking point.

 

[ShinobiFist]

we cant know what the father son relationship was, but assuming his father cared for him, which is a safe assumption of most fathers, it's still a dick move to kill yourself when you could wait a while longer and spare the poor man additional grievance. even if he reached his breaking point.

Is very easy to say such things, but the guy might have been Bipolar II and didn't even know it. This condition goes under the radar at times.

 

[-COOLIO-]

Is very easy to say such things, but the guy might have been Bipolar II and didn't even know it. This condition goes under the radar at times.

fair enough, and that would go on my list of severe circumstances

 

[Sage00]

fair enough, and that would go on my list of severe circumstances

We can set up a service where people can call you up and ask your permission to take their own life if you like.

 

[kruskev]

I actually hated this guy for not having any talent and riding on the success of such piece of shit show. Apparently his dad had a massive debt that he has been paying off for the past 7 years. Must have been some crazy sum considering how much the stars of winter sonata makes off of the Japanese fans.

 

[-COOLIO-]

We can set up a service where people can call you up and ask your permission to take their own life if you like.

if you read that someone looted a department store or firebombed a car, would you research their past and psychoanalyze it for justification, or just assume they did something wrong? i hate suicide. very rarely, for someone of his status, would i find out something about him that i would think justified it.

 

[ampere]

His father hasn't died yet.

And he is the son, he makes enough money to take care of his father the best possible given his condition.

So he chooses to inflict this horrible pain on his cancer stricken father, and his mom found him?

Sagaji up neun ship sekki ya.

Fucking punk, what a horrible son.

Yeah I have to say it sucks that he was feeling shitty and wanted to die but he really should have considered his family's feelings more.

 

[ShinobiFist]

I actually hated this guy for not having any talent and riding on the success of such piece of shit show. Apparently his dad had a massive debt that he has been paying off for the past 7 years. Must have been some crazy sum considering how much the stars of winter sonata makes off of the Japanese fans.

Damn.....It must of been a huge fucking debt and on top of that Cancer bills? Jesus.

 

[ShinobiFist]

if you read that someone looted a department store or firebombed a car, would you research their past and psychoanalyze it for justification, or just assume they did something wrong? i hate suicide. very rarely, for someone of his status, would i find out something about him that i would think justified it.

Dude, those are horrible comparisons and you know it. Those two things have nothing to do with depression.

 

[-COOLIO-]

Dude, those are horrible comparisons and you know it. Those two things have nothing to do with depression.

everything has motivation behind it but in general id rank suicide as a more heinous act than stealing a tv or destruction of property.

most people might not feel like that but in my list of values, life is way up there.

 

[Salacious Crumb]

Dude, those are horrible comparisons and you know it. Those two things have nothing to do with depression.

They can be related to other mental disorders, but when someone reads about someone looting or raping or murdering they don't start questioning if the guy had a mental disorder, and that he should be forgiven for his crime.

I'm of the opinion that for someone with a loving family and friends, suicide is the ultimate act of selfishness.

 

[ampere]

if you read that someone looted a department store or firebombed a car, would you research their past and psychoanalyze it for justification, or just assume they did something wrong? i hate suicide. very rarely, for someone of his status, would i find out something about him that i would think justified it.

I used to vehemently hate suicide and criticize it as you are doing now, and I said things I deeply regret saying to people on the subject as well. However it can be very difficult to see this situation from the depressed individual's perspective if you haven't been in a similar mental state.

Regardless, what he did was wrong, and he has negatively impacted others in the process. He effectively murdered himself. But I don't think you are reacting to the situation is the right way, being hateful about it really only makes the situation, and similar ones for that matter, worse.

everything has motivation behind it but in general id rank suicide as a more heinous act than stealing a tv or destruction of property.

most people might not feel like that but in my list of values, life is way up there.

Anything involving life is worse than destruction of property for sure, still think you're being overly aggressive/hateful about it.

 

[-COOLIO-]

I used to vehemently hate suicide and criticize it as you are doing now, and I said things I deeply regret saying to people on the subject as well. However it can be very difficult to see this situation from the depressed individual's perspective if you haven't been in a similar mental state.

Regardless, what he did was wrong, and he has negatively impacted others in the process. He effectively murdered himself. But I don't think you are reacting to the situation is the right way, being hateful about it really only makes the situation, and similar ones for that matter, worse.


Anything involving life is worse than destruction of property for sure, still think you're being overly aggressive/hateful about it.

what changed your mind?

and while it is good to understand the perspective of others, i hope you show the same courtesy to people of less socially acceptable mental illnesses

 

[ampere]

what changed your mind?

and while it is good to understand the perspective of others, i hope you show the same courtesy to people of less socially acceptable mental illnesses

I changed my mind after a lot of thinking about it, and feeling not so great myself.

When it comes to mental illnesses in situations of violence towards others, it can be hard to even verify legitimacy of an illness since 'insanity plea' is thrown around so often. So yeah, if someone goes on a murderous rampage I'm going to have a hard time feeling bad for them, but when someone just commits suicide it's not as though I think they're free from blame, I just try to be less hateful perhaps mainly out of respect for their living companions, maybe because they only took away their ability to live. I know it still affects people, still a selfish act, it's complicated shit and it'd be better if it didn't happen obviously.

Maybe I'm being hypocritical. Still I think it's better to be less aggressive about it, and of course best if no one commits suicide in the first place.

 

[Ashhong]

Has anybody in here seen First Love? I was Yonsama's first role, or at least his first breakout role. Best Kdrama everywhere, and was absolutely huge. Love it.

 

[-COOLIO-]

I changed my mind after a lot of thinking about it, and feeling not so great myself.

When it comes to mental illnesses in situations of violence towards others, it can be hard to even verify legitimacy of an illness since 'insanity plea' is thrown around so often. So yeah, if someone goes on a murderous rampage I'm going to have a hard time feeling bad for them, but when someone just commits suicide it's not as though I think they're free from blame, I just try to be less hateful perhaps mainly out of respect for their living companions, maybe because they only took away their ability to live. I know it still affects people, still a selfish act, it's complicated shit and it'd be better if it didn't happen obviously.

Maybe I'm being hypocritical. Still I think it's better to be less aggressive about it, and of course best if no one commits suicide in the first place.

if i was talking to this guys mom or loved ones, while i would think lowly of him, i wouldn't talk badly of him. that wouldnt help anyone.

murder is worst than suicide but if someone i really loved killed themselves without at least some kind of intimate explanation that justified it and a goodbye, i wouldnt even cry at their funeral, id hate them too much.

in the big picture though, life is predetermined and no one is really responsible for anything. so in being a determinist i suppose im a hypocrite as well.

 

[hteng]

he's probably single or something

 

[Noshino]

im pretty judgmental on anyone that commits suicide unless theyre starving/abused or something equally severe. it's because of my own personal value system. the fact that this guy had to kill himself before his fathers death just makes it a lot worst. do i think im the epitome of humanity? no. but just like anyone else here that would talk down a murderer, thief or whatever, i feel suicide is in most cases a despicable act.

Most despicable act? are you serious?

Rape victims would disagree, so would physically abused ones. And that's without counting murders, slavery, and all the other crap.


You are quick to judge others based on your own reasoning, unfortunately suicides for the most part tend to be caused by mental issues (imbalances, experiences, etc), something that you might not even be able to notice unless you were able to read minds, and even then, even if you knew what happened, people cope with things in different ways, so really, its very hard to comprehend.

For you to come out and bring your mightier than thou attitude, well, you are the prick here.

 

[-COOLIO-]

Most despicable act? are you serious?

Rape victims would disagree, so would physically abused ones. And that's without counting murders, slavery, and all the other crap.


You are quick to judge others based on your own reasoning, unfortunately suicides for the most part tend to be caused by mental issues (imbalances, experiences, etc), something that you might not even be able to notice unless you were able to read minds, and even then, even if you knew what happened, people cope with things in different ways, so really, its very hard to comprehend.

For you to come out and bring your mightier than thou attitude, well, you are the prick here.

sorry, but where did i say that?

and murders and rapists are inflicted with their own "(imbalances, experiences, etc)"

really, there is perfect justification for absolutely everything everyone does.

 

[Noshino]

if i was talking to this guys mom or loved ones, while i would think lowly of him, i wouldn't talk badly of him. that wouldnt help anyone.

murder is worst than suicide but if someone i really loved killed themselves without at least some kind of intimate explanation that justified it and a goodbye, i wouldnt even cry at their funeral, id hate them too much.

in the big picture though, life is predetermined and no one is really responsible for anything. so in being a determinist i suppose im a hypocrite as well.

You are calling them selfish, but wouldn't that make you more selfish than them?

im pretty judgmental on anyone that commits suicide unless theyre starving/abused or something equally severe. it's because of my own personal value system. the fact that this guy had to kill himself before his fathers death just makes it a lot worst. do i think im the epitome of humanity? no. but just like anyone else here that would talk down a murderer, thief or whatever, i feel suicide is in most cases a despicable act.

Right here buddy

 

[-COOLIO-]

You are calling them selfish, but wouldn't that make you more selfish than them?

no

Right here buddy

i said it's a 'despicable act in most cases'

not 'it's the most despicable act'

 

[Noshino]

no

sorry, but it does seem like it

i said it's a 'despicable act in most cases'

not 'it's the most despicable act'

Well, let's add up all of the other stuff that you have said on this thread, hell, you even mentioned that for some you wouldn't even cry at their funeral and that you would hate them...don't come and tell me know that you don't think of it as the most despicable act.


Anyway, you clearly have no idea of what goes on in these situations

 

[-COOLIO-]

Well, let's add up all of the other stuff that you have said on this thread, hell, you even mentioned that for some you wouldn't even cry at their funeral and that you would hate them...don't come and tell me know that you don't think of it as the most despicable act.


Anyway, you clearly have no idea of what goes on in these situations

i dont think it's the most dispicable act. if a loved one died after being gunned down by the police for going on a killing spree, i sure as shit wouldnt cry.

i even said in the part you bolded that 'murder is worst than suicide'

edit: comaaaan, admit you just read it wrong. comaaaaaaan.

 

[iamaustrian]

this makes no sense at all

oh look over there, that car's engine is likely to blow up soon. now I will crash my car full speed against a brickwall

 

[firehawk12]

Huh, this is just noteworthy to me because I'm going through Winter Sonata at the moment. Poor guy, I guess.

 

[Zen]

How the hell do you know he killed himself only because his father had cancer or not? I despise people who deem themselves epitome of humanity and cast judgment on other people's decisions.

Your only defense, before going off on using your personal value system, is that we don't know 100%. Maybe you should reel back from casting your own judgments on people, eh?

Also it's doubtful that he killed himself only because of his father, but suicide is generally a very selfish act and incredibly harmful to the ones left behind.

 

[2San]

Also it's doubtful that he killed himself only because of his father, but suicide is generally a very selfish act and incredibly harmful to the ones left behind.

No it's not? It's not safe to assume these people go through the same things all of us do neither is it safe to assume these people are strong enough to handle certain hardships. It also isn't save to assume he did this with a clear mind. You act like taking your own life is an easy thing.

 

[-COOLIO-]

No it's not? It's not safe to assume these people go through the same things all of us do neither is it safe to assume these people are strong enough to handle certain hardships. It also isn't save to assume he did this with a clear mind. You act like taking your own life is an easy thing.

but it's actually safer to assume these things than to assume otherwise.

once again though, while murder is worst than suicide, you could make all these same excuses for a killer. but i doubt it's the first reaction of most people to do so.

 

[2San]

but it's actually safer to assume these things than to assume otherwise.

once again though, while murder is worst than suicide, you could make all these same excuses for a killer. but i doubt it's the first reaction of most people to do so.

No you with a killer there are certain things to take into account. You can kill someone to protect yourself and most killings that take place is out of greed, domestic violence, revenge, etc. The motives to kill someone else is hardly the same as the motive to take your own life.

I was thinking about the Korean actress from resurrection that killed herself. Pretty much no one knew why she did. If you know nothing about what motived them to kill themselves, how can assume they did this because they where in bearable conditions when we know nothing. Likewise here all we know he had problems with his dad cancers, I think it's more likely to assume he didn't kill himself just because his dad has cancer.

I just find it hard to believe the majority of suicides happen for a trivial reason, because taking your own life isn't really an easy thing to do.

 

[-COOLIO-]

No you with a killer there are certain things to take into account. You can kill someone to protect yourself and most killings that take place is out of greed, domestic violence, revenge, etc. The motives to kill someone else is hardly the same as the motive to take your own life.

I was thinking about the Korean actress from resurrection that killed herself. Pretty much no one knew why she did. If you know nothing about what motived them to kill themselves, how can assume they did this because they where in bearable conditions when we know nothing. Likewise here all we know he had problems with his dad cancers, I think it's more likely to assume he didn't kill himself just because his dad has cancer.

I just find it hard to believe the majority of suicides happen for a trivial reason, because taking your own life isn't really an easy thing to do.

i could probably find articles on hundreds of killings with no apparent motive. they werent liked any more than the guys who killed for money.

it's very likely that this guy suffered long term depression, but enough people have fought their way out of it, and i'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he had some kind of super depression that he couldn't have fought against.

 

[flsh]

but it's actually safer to assume these things than to assume otherwise.

once again though, while murder is worst than suicide, you could make all these same excuses for a killer. but i doubt it's the first reaction of most people to do so.

I'm not posting just to this, but to all of your posts and to every person who holds similar views on suicide.
You are a very selfish person. For someone believing in determinism you act as if the world revolves around you. You might not mean it, but it certainly comes off as exactly that when reading your posts. Comparing murder, rape, rubbery and other similar crimes to suicide is comparing apples to oranges. When you murder someone, you take their lives away. When you rape someone, you scar someone else. You can probably see what I'm trying to say, and I already know you will say taking your own life hurts other people emotionally. But guess what? It doesn't matter a single bit. My life is mine, and if anyone actually has a right to take it, it's me and only me. What is the difference between me committing suicide to me losing control of my car at 60MPH and dying? I die in both cases by my own actions, but for one most people wont put a justification while for the other action most people will put the justification that it was an accident. Of course, if you truly are a determinist, you will say I took my life in both cases and the difference was solely my perception of it, but that is a test for your belief system and is beside the point.
When push comes to shove, you will cry for the loss of your friend whether he killed himself or lost control of his car, because you lost a dear friend. Yes, you are hurt, but you are not hurt because your friend committed suicide, you are sad because your friend is gone.
Saying that the person is disgusting for taking his own life (when every person has a right to take their own lives) is absurd. To you, there really is no difference between your friend committing suicide or losing control of a car. To him, one death was wanted and the other wasn't. You don't have the right to say that because he wanted to die (and it doesn't matter what the other circumstances are) you aren't going to mourn the loss of your friend. The disgusting person is you for not mourning someone who you really consider a friend.
The person committing suicide can do it for whatever reason he wants. He didn't want to live which is sad enough by itself. His father has cancer and just got news of his late son, which is also very sad. I don't see a single thing in this situation that lets you say his son is despicable. His son lost the will to live, and you say live on? What for? So his father wont know of the fact his son lost the will to live? The real tragedy is his wish to die, not the ill father hearing about his dead son. Him committing suicide before or after his father dies or gets better is irrelevant. Suicide is the result of the tragedy, not the tragedy itself.

 

[2San]

i could probably find articles on hundreds of killings with no apparent motive. they werent liked any more than the guys who killed for money.

it's very likely that this guy suffered long term depression, but enough people have fought their way out of it, and i'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he had some kind of super depression that he couldn't have fought against.

No apparent motive, means they don't know why they got killed. That doesn't means there wasn't any motive. If people kill without of motive it's safer to assume he was batshit insane. If you want to compare this to the same motives as murder think about it how many happens, because the killer isn't in a good metal state and get sent to clinic instead of prison. People who commit suicide aren't in a healthy mental state.

I mean seriously enough people have fought out of it so they just didn't try hard enough? Maybe he didn't have the same mental strength. Yes mental strength varies from person to person. Maybe he didn't have the same support the other people had when going into depression. And depression does vary from person to person it's hardly the same for everyone. Some people just see that suicide is the only way out. That's something to be sad about and not something to accuse someone of being selfish.

 

[zon]

Never feel sorry for someone pathetic enough to take their own life.

what a piece of shit. He's depressed about his dad so he kills himself? Great! I hope the old man never finds out but he most likely knows about this. Nice present for a dying father to leave this life with. Selfish prick.

im pretty judgmental on anyone that commits suicide unless theyre starving/abused or something equally severe. it's because of my own personal value system. the fact that this guy had to kill himself before his fathers death just makes it a lot worst. do i think im the epitome of humanity? no. but just like anyone else here that would talk down a murderer, thief or whatever, i feel suicide is in most cases a despicable act.

Nice way to prove how ignorant you are.

 

[EatChildren]

As usual the collective stupidity and ignorance of GAF rears its ugly head via a few select members who prove they know absolutely nothing about mental illness yet think they're knowledgable enough to judge those suffering.

 

[Kuran]

We can set up a service where people can call you up and ask your permission to take their own life if you like.

1-800-douchebag

 

[Stahsky]

im pretty judgmental on anyone that commits suicide unless theyre starving/abused or something equally severe. it's because of my own personal value system. the fact that this guy had to kill himself before his fathers death just makes it a lot worst. do i think im the epitome of humanity? no. but just like anyone else here that would talk down a murderer, thief or whatever, i feel suicide is in most cases a despicable act.

Agreed with this mindset, but obviously not what the thread is about, so I shall not dive into this any further.

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it seems like quite a few people keep up with these Japanese or Korean dramas. I've never seen one myself, though. What's the reason? Are they really good? Are they like American soaps or something? Honestly curious.

 

[Wiseblade]

Right here buddy

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[2San]

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it seems like quite a few people keep up with these Japanese or Korean dramas. I've never seen one myself, though. What's the reason? Are they really good? Are they like American soaps or something? Honestly curious.

The top J/K-Drama's tend to be quality(there's a lot of shit out there). If you look well you can find pretty good serious stuff as well. They tend to finish after a season so they don't get dragged out like crazy. So it's more like HBO/CBS tv series, but you do have the trashy soaps as well.

While I wouldn't say they are better, but there are so many series you have more options to find a series to your liking.

 

[3rdman]

Dude probably had depression for a while now. I don't know how long his father has been in that state, but that was probably the last cup of water that overflowed his bucket. Suicide usually isn't sudden regardless of stress and sorrow. Who knows, he might have done it regardless of his father's condition. Everyone calling him pathetic has no clue about his mental well being or how long he's been afflicted with such thoughts.

No he really is just a pathetic ass.

 

[Desiato]

This reminds me, we haven't seen Solid Moustache since that thread he made, have we?

 

[hirokazu]

Wow. :|

 

[-COOLIO-]

I'm not posting just to this, but to all of your posts and to every person who holds similar views on suicide.
You are a very selfish person. For someone believing in determinism you act as if the world revolves around you. You might not mean it, but it certainly comes off as exactly that when reading your posts. Comparing murder, rape, rubbery and other similar crimes to suicide is comparing apples to oranges. When you murder someone, you take their lives away. When you rape someone, you scar someone else. You can probably see what I'm trying to say, and I already know you will say taking your own life hurts other people emotionally. But guess what? It doesn't matter a single bit. My life is mine, and if anyone actually has a right to take it, it's me and only me. What is the difference between me committing suicide to me losing control of my car at 60MPH and dying? I die in both cases by my own actions, but for one most people wont put a justification while for the other action most people will put the justification that it was an accident. Of course, if you truly are a determinist, you will say I took my life in both cases and the difference was solely my perception of it, but that is a test for your belief system and is beside the point.
When push comes to shove, you will cry for the loss of your friend whether he killed himself or lost control of his car, because you lost a dear friend. Yes, you are hurt, but you are not hurt because your friend committed suicide, you are sad because your friend is gone.
Saying that the person is disgusting for taking his own life (when every person has a right to take their own lives) is absurd. To you, there really is no difference between your friend committing suicide or losing control of a car. To him, one death was wanted and the other wasn't. You don't have the right to say that because he wanted to die (and it doesn't matter what the other circumstances are) you aren't going to mourn the loss of your friend. The disgusting person is you for not mourning someone who you really consider a friend.
The person committing suicide can do it for whatever reason he wants. He didn't want to live which is sad enough by itself. His father has cancer and just got news of his late son, which is also very sad. I don't see a single thing in this situation that lets you say his son is despicable. His son lost the will to live, and you say live on? What for? So his father wont know of the fact his son lost the will to live? The real tragedy is his wish to die, not the ill father hearing about his dead son. Him committing suicide before or after his father dies or gets better is irrelevant. Suicide is the result of the tragedy, not the tragedy itself.

1. how is no one getting that im not putting suicide on the same level as murder?

2. fine, but your parents have probably invested their entire life in you, you probably have people that count on you. it's your right to take your life, and it's also you're right to act like an asshole, but neither of these things is going to make people like you, and they do have the right to call you an asshole after the fact if you just killed yourself without a satisfactory explanation. essssspecially on your father's deathbed. it's your right to kill yourself and it's my right to ridicule you after youre dead.

3. i don't think determinists believe in choice. if they do, then i'm something else i guess.

4. if a friend died in a car accident, id cry my eyes out. if he commited suicide, with no explanation, without any signs of putting up a good fight. then no, i wouldnt. if you don't understand this, then you don't understand what it's like to have the value system than i do. maybe id cry after i forgave them in the long run, but certainly not while the hate for their actions was fresh in my mind at their funeral.

5. the real tragedy isnt that he wished to die, it's that he pissed on the relationships of his family and loved ones with an easy cop out. it's also because he couldnt fight his depression better because of an appreciation of life.

does my hate of suicide mean that it's never acceptable? no. same with murder.

im pro euthenasia when people are suffering or their life is going to be short lived anyway.

if people are living with unbearable external factors then that's fine too

if people are extremely depressed, as in the raaaare kind with a huuuuge hormonal imbalance or whatever that saps their will to do anything to fix it

hell even if people are just extremely depressed and they've fought admirably with psychiatry and medicine to fight it. then they can kill themselves too as long as they offer an explanation to their loved ones.

you know why i hate suicide so much? 2 reasons. first, i dont believe in an after life. second, i believe the pursuit of happiness for yourself and others is the only true good in this universe. if there's no chance of you experiencing happiness again in your life, then kill yourself, that's fine. but that kind of state has got to be a very rare thing. to deny yourself and others happiness is in my opinion a very bad thing to do. it's also a very hard to do in general, but one way of doing it is by killing yourself.

 

[-COOLIO-]

No apparent motive, means they don't know why they got killed. That doesn't means there wasn't any motive. If people kill without of motive it's safer to assume he was batshit insane. If you want to compare this to the same motives as murder think about it how many happens, because the killer isn't in a good metal state and get sent to clinic instead of prison. People who commit suicide aren't in a healthy mental state.

I mean seriously enough people have fought out of it so they just didn't try hard enough? Maybe he didn't have the same mental strength. Yes mental strength varies from person to person. Maybe he didn't have the same support the other people had when going into depression. And depression does vary from person to person it's hardly the same for everyone. Some people just see that suicide is the only way out. That's something to be sad about and not something to accuse someone of being selfish.

man, everything that anyone has ever done wrong could be chocked up to a lack of mental strength. do you think anyone has ever done anything bad or selfish? or that they just lacked the mental strength?

 

[-COOLIO-]

As usual the collective stupidity and ignorance of GAF rears its ugly head via a few select members who prove they know absolutely nothing about mental illness yet think they're knowledgable enough to judge those suffering.

and you've proven that you do?

 

[farnham]

hanged himself

I'm in the US and I've always heard people use hung. Hanged sounds awkward.

That's correct in the US but wrong in the UK and elsewhere

okay now im confused

 

[farnham]

most people would agree that if you're letting down family and loved ones by killing yourself then you're an asshole. Also, as someone who values life really highly i think he's an asshole for pissing life away regardless. i hope he at least left a tip for the people that have to untie him and lug his corpse out.

so the question is what value does your family and your loved ones have to you if you are dead ?

If you believe that there is no life after death and are thinking strictly utilitarian and egocentric then they dont have any value to you because you cant benefit from them at all.

does that make you an asshole. I think not. its just a matter of belief. (not saying that i would not see any value in my family or my loved ones after death)

What's so great about him? Not that I want him to die :lol

nothing he is just popular

yonsama dies = half of the japanese population dies

 

[InfiniteNine]

I kinda want to watch this now to see what the hells the big deal about Yonsama.

 

[-NeoTB1-]

Never feel sorry for someone pathetic enough to take their own life.

Yes, because everyone who has ever taken their own life should be put in the same category. What a retarded comment.

 

[farnham]

I kinda want to watch this now to see what the hells the big deal about Yonsama.

dont. it sucks