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Kotaku: Future Destiny Content to be free, supplemented by micro-transactions

I don't play Destiny so I don't know the specifics, but if I'm reading correctly it's just micro-transactions for skins, right? Then what's the fuss about?
 
Because I don't like seeing shit like this suddenly being dropped into a game that has launched twice in a year in order to try and get even more from people that have already paid $120-$140 thus far. I also care because they just managed to get me back into it and sold me on the new content and changes. But rest assured, I will not be supporting it anymore.

It wasn't launched twice in a year. It was a base game, then three expansions. Is WoW launching every two years?

I don't play Destiny so I don't know the specifics, but if I'm reading correctly it's just micro-transactions for skins, right? Then what's the fuss about?

Good question!
 
It is an incredible value. I don't have to invest any extra money, and I will still get access to whatever content they put out until the next major expansion. You understand that you don't have to buy the emotes, and you will still get the content, right? There really is not a whole lot of logic to your argument.

Yes, I have been over that already. But I still don't like microtransactions for items that should be obtainable in game being suddenly announced for a game that has launched twice in one year, with paid DLC up until this point. Sorry, I don't see the value in that. But apparently many people do and they know this all too well.
 
We don't know the scale of the "free" content yet, but to assume it'll be TDB/HOW size is living in magical Christmasland. I assume it will be along the lines of the original Queen's Wrath type stuff

Most likely

Which is still cool. I actually expect quite a few remixes of year 1 and 2 content going forward

There is some much to play with. Im optimistic that it will remain compelling until Destiny 2 hits
 
It wasn't launched twice in a year. It was a base game, then three expansions. Is WoW launching every two years?

Well, they even said that they consider this a relaunch of sorts. So it kind of did. Especially for those of us who bought the core game and then turned around and bought The Legendary Edition as well.
 
Well, they even said that they consider this a relaunch of sorts. So it kind of did. Especially for those of us who bought the core game and then turned around and bought The Legendary Edition as well.

That was your choice. The game didn't launch twice in a year, even if you consider both to be launches then the game launched and then a year later it launched again. That's not twice in a year. These are cosmetic microtransactions that are being used to subsidize content that would otherwise cost money. What is the problem? Would you rather be forced to pay for the content and split the userbase?
 
Most likely

Which is still cool. I actually expect quite a few remixes of year 1 and 2 content going forward

There is some much to play with. Im optimistic that it will remain compelling until Destiny 2 hits

The game managed to hook me way before TDB/HOW/TTK , and those have made it infinitely better, so I think the next year will be pretty good since they have been making steady improvements. I am really digging the Nightstalker class so far.
 
Yes, I have been over that already. But I still don't like microtransactions for items that should be obtainable in game being suddenly announced for a game that has launched twice in one year, with paid DLC up until this point. Sorry, I don't see the value in that. But apparently many people do and they know this all too well.
Why should emotes be obtainable in game? A purely cosmetic expression that doesn't affect gameplay should be available to everyone even though bungie is leveraging this money to help all players of their game? It's like you want to handicap the progression of the game for your own sense of entitlement. I'm also curious to know what you mean about "launched twice in a year" as it make no sense at all and by that metric there are a number of titles with dlc in the industry you should consider "relaunches" yet I'm sure you don't because "lol destiny".
 
Read the article. It's purely cosmetic. Emotes etc.

Yes, they clearly state that its for cosmetic items only. However, one can't help but assume that this new store front is a test bed for future additions such as engrams, ammo synths, strange coins, three of coins, motes of light, moldering shards etc.

Remember Bungie and Activision are for profit businesses and not our friends. I will give them the benefit of the doubt but don't be surprised if this messaging changes should the store front do well.

edit: If they stay true to their word and keep it to cosmetic items then more power to Activision and Bungie, because as others have mentioned it will lessen the fragmentation within the community with each content release periods. Fingers crossed
 
That was your choice. The game didn't launch twice in a year, even if you consider both to be launches then the game launched and then a year later it launched again. That's not twice in a year. These are cosmetic microtransactions that are being used to subsidize content that would otherwise cost money. What is the problem? Would you rather be forced to pay for the content and split the userbase?

The problem is that microtransactions never have our best interest in mind. And I also don't have confidence that this free content will be worth a damn, but I am glad you think so. Enjoy.
 
Yes, they clearly state that its for cosmetic items only. However, one can't help but assume that this new store front is a test bed for future additions such as engrams, ammo synths, strange coins, three of coins, motes of light, moldering shards etc.

Remember Bungie and Activision are for profit businesses and not our friends. I will give them the benefit of the doubt but don't be surprised if this messaging changes should the store front do well.

Sure, it could be. But why get riled up over what might or might not happen.

I could get riled up at the possibility that Back to the Future is going to get a remake next year because studios seem to love cashing in on that 80s early 90s nostalgia, but I don't.

If/when it does happen, then say something about it. Seems silly to go off on something that may or may not happen.
 
Literally everyone kicking up a fuss about this based entirely on their own speculation. If they do turn these microtransactions to shit and start charging for engrams then you can flip out. As of right now it doesn't affect the game in any way at all.
 
Yes, they clearly state that its for cosmetic items only. However, one can't help but assume that this new store front is a test bed for future additions such as engrams, ammo synths, strange coins, three of coins, motes of light, moldering shards etc.

Remember Bungie and Activision are for profit businesses and not our friends. I will give them the benefit of the doubt but don't be surprised if this messaging changes should the store front do well.
There's no evidence to support your "bad feelings"
It's just "lol Bungie and Activison are evil"
 
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Literally everyone kicking up a fuss about this based entirely on their own speculation. If they do turn these microtransactions to shit and start charging for engrams then you can flip out. As of right now it doesn't affect the game in any way at all.

Absolutely. This is why I think now is a good time to tell us exactly what the plans for Destiny are going forward.

Last year we had the season pass so we kind of had an idea, no we only know that "free" stuff is coming.
 
The problem is that microtransactions never have our best interest in mind. And I also don't have confidence that this free content will be worth a damn, but I am glad you think so. Enjoy.

Bleh

TTK was big enough to justify its cost. Even if they added nothing from here until Destiny 2... we still got a complete and compelling "sequel" to Vanilla Destiny

Im thankful that they plan on supporting it with small content going forward
 
Haha, conveniently implemented after they already had 2 paid expansions under their belt. Surely though the free dlc will be of great content and value and not lame small additions!
 
There's literall no evidence to support your "bad feelings"
It's just "lol Bungie and Activison are evil"

Your use of quotes makes no sense. It's not a bad feeling, its an assumption made based on common business practices and nowhere did I say Bungie and Activision are evil; I simply said they are for profit businesses. But thanks for spinning an opinion into a Destiny bashing attempt.
 
Haha, conveniently implemented after they already had 2 paid expansions under their belt. Surely though the free dlc will be of great content and value and not lame small additions!

Irrelevant

I would say the community is much more excited at the prospect of Current Gen Destiny 2 and is currently really happy with the content Delivery of TTK

And having the end of life content for Destiny 1 be free? Who cares if its little stuff
 
Assuming they keep to the promise of putting out free content then it sounds great. Basically inching closer to Warframe's style which is what they should be doing because they're basically the same game but Warframe is structured in a much more friendly way.

Especially considering what they were making you pay for before, I just picked up TTK cause some friends agreed to pay half of it for me and I would have been pissed if I had dropped $20 on each of those "expansions," the Dark Below was literally half a sitting long. If they want to charge then they should make the expansions huge, if they want to keep them the size they've been doing they should be free.
 
The micro-transactions is dancing and apparently shaders and skins later on.

The best way to do Free content paid by microtransactions. Add a lot of skins, pets, mount skins (no performance advantage), and other visual things. Maybe character slots too, I don't know how many Destiny is capped at and if it feels restrictive.
 
The best way to do Free content paid by microtransactions. Add a lot of skins, pets, mount skins (no performance advantage), and other visual things. Maybe character slots too, I don't know how many Destiny is capped at and if it feels restrictive.

3 Character slots, and that would be one thing I'd consider paying a little extra for
 
I feel like calling it Destiny 2 is a bit weird... Since as far as we know, Destiny 2 will basically be Year 3 since our characters will fully come to Destiny 2. So odds are Destiny 2 will be just a larger expansion and become the new base game.
 
Haha, conveniently implemented after they already had 2 paid expansions under their belt. Surely though the free dlc will be of great content and value and not lame small additions!
That's how basic PR works, they can't just give us the bad news ... It's like magician's trick: "Thanks for all the money boys and girls, as a thank you there will be some FREE STUFF!!! woot!!1 ...and oh, by the way we're introducing microtransactions. "
 
I will say that if they sell a matte black shader or add the option for a weapon shader then I will be first in line. Some of these Crucible weapons are straight booty with the blue and green nerf gun starter pack look.
 
I feel like calling it Destiny 3 is a bit weird... Since as far as we know, Destiny 2 will basically be Year 3 since our characters will fully come to Destiny 2. So odds are Destiny 2 will be just a larger expansion and become the new base game.

Possibly...

I dunno though. They might have to make a completely new base if they drop last gen consoles

It might be easier to just build a new game instead of modifying destiny 1

No way to know until they actually talk about it. So far they are only hinting at Destiny 2 with the "till next fall" remarks
 
The "launch twice in one year" and "$140 dollar game" arguments get me every time. Like why are people so mad when you can vote with your wallet and opt out? I'm really trying to understand here. What other game (other than Diablo 3) get these relaunch arguments? Many games have retail releases for their big dlc as well as highly priced dlc which boast a large addition of content to their game and yet they're not met with such disdain. What is it about destiny that causes people to rage so dang much?

Probably Activision. Everything with their name on it gets people mad.

Edit: Oh wait Diablo is Activision too, lol. Never mind then, I don't know.
 
Possibly...

I dunno though. They might have to make a completely new base if they drop last gen consoles

It might be easier to just build a new game instead of modifying destiny 1

No way to know until they actually talk about it. So far they are only hinting at Destiny 2 with the "till next fall" remarks


They better drop next gen consoles and add PC. These loading screens will hopefully be minimized and the the open areas to explore will hopefully open up as well. Maybe our ships will actually serve a purpose outside of acting as a fancy load screen.
 
They better drop next gen consoles and add PC. These loading screens will hopefully be minimized and the the open areas to explore will hopefully open up as well. Maybe our ships will actually serve a purpose outside of acting as a fancy load screen.

I sure hope that was a typo and you meant last gen consoles.
 
I wonder how recently this decision came about. In TTK they changed a bunch of the formerly cosmetic stuff (ghost shells, class items) to suddenly contribute to stats. That doesn't seem like something you'd do when you're about to open up a cosmetic shop. I guess they might have figured that players would be waaaay more unhappy about this if the coolest cloaks/bonds/marks were paid only.

No mention of paid ships so far, that seems like an obvious one to do as well.
 
We don't know the scale of the "free" content yet, but to assume it'll be TDB/HOW size is living in magical Christmasland. I assume it will be along the lines of the original Queen's Wrath type stuff

You are living in the same fantasyland, as your guessing is based on the same (lack of) information. It's pretty much all speculation at this point outside of Bungie's post on b.net.
 
You are living in the same fantasyland, as your guessing is based on the same (lack of) information. It's pretty much all speculation at this point outside of Bungie's post on b.net.

Wouldnt the downhill slope of Destiny 1 be the logical course leading into Destiny 2?

Yes this is all speculation but I doubt a major expansion for Destiny 1 is going to be the lead into whatever the fall release is
 
I wonder how recently this decision came about. In TTK they changed a bunch of the formerly cosmetic stuff (ghost shells, class items) to suddenly contribute to stats. That doesn't seem like something you'd do when you're about to open up a cosmetic shop. I guess they might have figured that players would be waaaay more unhappy about this if the coolest cloaks/bonds/marks were paid only.

No mention of paid ships so far, that seems like an obvious one to do as well.

I'm guessing it's been a while in coming, and had to do with what numerous independant DLC's did to the team and userbase. The upgrade paths to the Taken King were confusing because of the prior two DLCs, they had to do multiple SKU's for those with and without them, and that still left some people who may have bought only one of the prior expansions feeling left out ("I have to buy the whole game again?!" etc.) TTK got everyone who was moving forward with the game on the same content base, and then keeps them there until the next major expansion in a year.

From the standpoint of Bungie's team, I imagine it made life a bit easier as well. They had the TTK team, TDB team, which probably overlapped with HoW, and the live team. That's a lot of fragmentation even for a large studio. It's probably much more efficient to bolster the live team, and have the rest of the studio work on the annual releases.
 
Wouldnt the downhill slope of Destiny 1 be the logical course leading into Destiny 2?

Yes this is all speculation but I doubt a major expansion for Destiny 1 is going to be the lead into whatever the fall release is

Could be though. Something ending with a huge cliffhanger (something like the revelation that the traveler is secretly evil...)

BOOM!

...see you in Destiny 2.
 
People are so naive, you really think this is going to be only cosmetic?, for now, yes, you just wait and they will have you farming 50 hours for a legendary/exotic engram OR pay $5 and save your time.

I hope I'm wrong though.
 
Wouldnt the downhill slope of Destiny 1 be the logical course leading into Destiny 2?

Yes this is all speculation but I doubt a major expansion for Destiny 1 is going to be the lead into whatever the fall release is

What downhill slope?


The opinions of Destiny have done nothing but improve since launch.

People are so naive, you really think this is going to be only cosmetic?, for now, yes, you just wait and they will have you farming 50 hours for a legendary/exotic engram OR pay $5 and save your time.

I hope I'm wrong though.

And if that happens, I'll complain about it. Until then, I'll live a stress free life by not getting upset about the unknown.
 
What downhill slope?


The opinions of Destiny have done nothing but improve since launch.



And if that happens, I'll complain about it. Until then, I'll live a stress free life by not getting upset about the unknown.

No no no

I mean that we are seeing the Transition from Destiny 1 into Destiny 2

Just predicting that the content from now until Destiny 2 will not be at the scale we saw from TDB and HoW
 
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