I dont understand the anger towards Konami for pulling PT from psn to be honest
Silent Hills at the moment is a cancelled project, so its promotional demo, PT, has no marketing value to Konami
Since the last console generation we know that console holders (Sony, MS and Nintendo) used to charge game makers per download volume of their games from their digital stores and we know that the cost on Sony platforms (PS3) was 16 cents per GB
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/113788/Sony_Charging_Publishers_For_PSN_Download_Volume.php
This policy is still valid today in the next generation consoles and game makers still have to pay psn or xbox live (or any digital store on PC) for bandwidth costs
The size of PT demo on psn was 1.3 GB which means that Konami had to pay Sony around 16-20 cents when some random user decided to download the Playable Teaser
The cost value is based on 2009 prices (per GB) and maybe it is a lot cheaper now, but the point I want to make is that downloads from digital stores cost money to publishers/game makers
Since PT is no longer going to make any money for Konami and Sony still charges for the bandwidth per download, it seems logical to me for Konami to remove PT from psn store
And maybe 15-20 cents per download dont sound like much money, but if you multiply that by 4 or 5 or 10 million people that are going to download the demo, the amounts is very large for a company that is trying to cut costs and restructure
I am sure that every PS4 owner would want to download PT at the moment, especially after hearing about eBay prices
As a gamer I am hugely disappointed from the cancelation of Silent Hills, but I totally understand why Konami pulled PT from psn store
I dont understand the anger towards Konami for pulling PT from psn to be honest
Silent Hills at the moment is a cancelled project, so its promotional demo, PT, has no marketing value to Konami
Since the last console generation we know that console holders (Sony, MS and Nintendo) used to charge game makers per download volume of their games from their digital stores and we know that the cost on Sony platforms (PS3) was 16 cents per GB
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/113788/Sony_Charging_Publishers_For_PSN_Download_Volume.php
This policy is still valid today in the next generation consoles and game makers still have to pay psn or xbox live (or any digital store on PC) for bandwidth costs
The size of PT demo on psn was 1.3 GB which means that Konami had to pay Sony around 16-20 cents when some random user decided to download the Playable Teaser
The cost value is based on 2009 prices (per GB) and maybe it is a lot cheaper now, but the point I want to make is that downloads from digital stores cost money to publishers/game makers
Since PT is no longer going to make any money for Konami and Sony still charges for the bandwidth per download, it seems logical to me for Konami to remove PT from psn store
And maybe 15-20 cents per download dont sound like much money, but if you multiply that by 4 or 5 or 10 million people that are going to download the demo, the amounts is very large for a company that is trying to cut costs and restructure
I am sure that every PS4 owner would want to download PT at the moment, especially after hearing about eBay prices
As a gamer I am hugely disappointed from the cancelation of Silent Hills, but I totally understand why Konami pulled PT from psn store
People keep saying it costs money to keep it on the servers, but I can go to my PS3 and download some shitty demo from 2007 with no issues, but suddenly a less than 12 month old demo has to be pulled?
Kotaku just got blacklisted by Konami.
Great article.
They fucked over Bomberman as well, never forget
Sony started to charge for bandwidth volume on 2009, so I am not sure what is the deal for titles that where published on psn before 2009. I am guessing that large publishers (ie Activision, EA etc) have special deals with console holders that cover their whole portfolio
And maybe on indy games Sony keeps a percentage of money per sale, so the bandwidth gets paid from this fee...
Nothing is free on closed platforms, which consoles are an example of
If there was a list of the 100 best horror games ever made, then why would it be hyperbolic to call PT that
If some guy at Kotaku wants to be Johnny Come Lately complaining about Konami, the least he could do is make it all about the disaster that is post-purchase Hudson. Does the world need another guy whining about P.T.? Hell, does Kotaku need another story about P.T.?
They delisted the game.
This means that any NEW users will never be able to download the game.
Of the users that had the game on their library, how many times do you think they are constantly deleting and redownloading PT a day? 50? At most, probably once a year, some of them will probably never download it again.
So how much was it costing Konami really?
I am not going to bash them for delisting the game. PSN gave people plenty of time to put PT in their library. But to go the extra mile and just make sure no one can ever download it again? Thats kinda fucked up.
That's a cute way to stealthily whine about the thread, let alone the source story.
Calling P.T. one of the best horror games of all time is a tad hyperbolic...
And how much do you think this backlash has cost Konami?
Calling P.T. one of the best horror games of all time is a tad hyperbolic...
Well it is a game blog after all. Don't think it'll hurt much.Kotaku just got blacklisted by Konami.
Great article.
The next team that works on Silent Hill could create a fucking masterpiece of modern horror, a brilliant and artistic and terrifying journey through mind and body, and everyone would think it's terrible because of these events or write it off before even touching it. Or even touching it.
People keep saying it costs money to keep it on the servers, but I can go to my PS3 and download some shitty demo from 2007 with no issues, but suddenly a less than 12 month old demo has to be pulled?
Aside from MGS V (which I will be buying solely to support Kojima) Konami has lost my business. I encourage you to do the same.
Kotaku just got blacklisted by Konami.
Great article.
I don't think the problem is that they pulled P.T from the store.
The Super Rub-a-Dub demo got pulled too and there never was a public outcry about it (I think Bishoptl made a thread though)
The thing is they won't allow people who have it already installed on their console to play it (unlike the Super rub-a-dub demo)
Western rabid anti-Konami fans, please stop 'raiding' official Konami bemani and other YouTube videos with your Silent Hill nonsense. Comments now disabled by default.
They won't. They might use them in mobile/redemption games, or catalog console sales on things like Virtual Console/PS Classics but most likely they'll just sit on them and let them die.It looks like Konami is leaving the videogame industry. Very sad times! I hope they sell their IPs to Nintendo or Capcom.
I dont understand the anger towards Konami for pulling PT from psn to be honest
Silent Hills at the moment is a cancelled project, so its promotional demo, PT, has no marketing value to Konami
Since the last console generation we know that console holders (Sony, MS and Nintendo) used to charge game makers per download volume of their games from their digital stores and we know that the cost on Sony platforms (PS3) was 16 cents per GB
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/113788/Sony_Charging_Publishers_For_PSN_Download_Volume.php
This policy is still valid today in the next generation consoles and game makers still have to pay psn or xbox live (or any digital store on PC) for bandwidth costs
The size of PT demo on psn was 1.3 GB which means that Konami had to pay Sony around 16-20 cents when some random user decided to download the Playable Teaser
The cost value is based on 2009 prices (per GB) and maybe it is a lot cheaper now, but the point I want to make is that downloads from digital stores cost money to publishers/game makers
Since PT is no longer going to make any money for Konami and Sony still charges for the bandwidth per download, it seems logical to me for Konami to remove PT from psn store
And maybe 15-20 cents per download dont sound like much money, but if you multiply that by 4 or 5 or 10 million people that are going to download the demo, the amounts is very large for a company that is trying to cut costs and restructure
I am sure that every PS4 owner would want to download PT at the moment, especially after hearing about eBay prices
As a gamer I am hugely disappointed from the cancelation of Silent Hills, but I totally understand why Konami pulled PT from psn store
It looks like Konami is leaving the videogame industry. Very sad times! I hope they sell their IPs to Nintendo or Capcom.
Yeah now Kotaku won't be able to cover any upcoming Konami games like
I still enjoy a lot of Konami games. They have a great and diverse back catalogue.
They are not going to sell their IPs. Now leasing them maybe.sörine;162973762 said:They won't. They might use them in mobile/redemption games, or catalog console sales on things like Virtual Console/PS Classics but most likely they'll just sit on them and let them die.
First reply gets it. However, everyone did think that Kojima was the untouchable golden cow, but now we truly learn the extent of Konami's apathy for all of its gaming products. Leave no stone unturned.All of this Konami backlash is just a few years too late. They clearly already don't give a shit.
Protect Beatmania ;___;Western rabid anti-Konami fans, please stop 'raiding' official Konami bemani and other YouTube videos with your Silent Hill nonsense. Comments now disabled by default.
I found footage of the Neo Contra machine:
https://youtu.be/TNqTRKVKPz8
No Contra video game in sight...
People aren't mad solely that the game isn't available on PSN anymore. Games get delisted all of the time - usually due to expired licenses. What makes this worse, is that even if you own P.T., you can't redownload it. That had only happened one other time in PSN history. If a game is removed from the storefront, it's expected that you can redownload it so long as you own a license. And people who downloaded P.T. own a license.
As well, we shouldn't be trying to make excuses for Konami, or any other publisher. P.T. is a piece of gaming history that's essentially lost forever, all because of Konami's ridiculous scorched Earth policy. This industry should be taking steps to perverse games, not tossing them in the garbage.
I know that feeling.It's just... really fucking painful to bear.