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Lady freaks out on Lyft driver over Hawaiin bobblehead.

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NealMcCauley said:
Yeah I don't think that Canadian News Agency channel is legit.

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Does it matter? The video speaks for itself and the person who took it acknowledged it happened.
 
She thought there'd be a meme from this? What would it have been?

The driver comes off super well, he's so calm. He should have just stopped engaging with her though.
 
One of the best ways of getting your point across is being disrespectful to someone who is actually trying to have a level-headed discussion and call THEM disrespectful and entitled.
 
be the "next internet meme" after trying to make someone else an internet meme on gawker, brehettes

dude handled that a lot better then most would have
 
Should've just put the doll away and ended the discussion right there and then, I mean you can't really win an argument with people like that. They don't listen to reason.
 
As a fellow Polynesian, I can safely say that NO ONE in Hawaii is ever offended at hula girl bobbleheads. Hell, we manufacture them and sell them in so many little shops there, and they encourage people from all over to buy them. We see it as a respect and acknowledgement to the culture. So, whatever this chick is saying is just flat out wrong.

"Continent of Hawaii" was already enough for me to cut the video off, but I hung in there an kept going. Jesus. Her response letter was painful to read, as well.
 
The video makes me angry. Looking her up on Facebook and seeing we have 34 mutual friends makes me want to cry.
 
I wouldn't say that guy is a saint; he was pretty passive-aggressive. He shouldn't have engaged her bullshit. That being said he didn't deserve all the shit he was getting.
 
Yaboosh said:
False flag alert.
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Possible. It looks like someone else took over her Twitter handle when she changed it temporarily to dickyfeynman and someone created a fake Facebook account for her. I'm sure either way that the truth will out eventually.

Whether it's an actual interaction or a false flag, can we agree that the purported recorder's argument is unpersuasive and that her behavior justified the Lyft driver ending the ride after she called him "You fucking selfish dumbass idiot" (although perhaps he could have left her in a better area)?

To the mods, is Canadian News Agency, with five videos and 19 subscribers, that much better of a source than yesterday's thread?
 
"Give me what I want or I will make you a meme and destroy your life."

How did we get here? Is it a by-product of the internet age, concept creep or maybe both?
 
killer rin said:
That poor driver, I don't understand how anybody could put up with that bullshit. If a SJW tried pulling that shit on me I would be almost incentivized to get cocky and put them in their place
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What bothers me is that we've seen a really disturbing pattern for years; when SJWs venture outside of their echo chambers, they realize just how little people give a shit about their pet causes, and their immediate reaction is to threaten to publicly shame the alleged culprit for their perceived transgressions.
 
It's obviously a real interaction no matter the source. Shame on this person not just for being awful to the guy, but for recording it with intentions to have the driver publicly humiliated and fired.
 
Slate Soda said:
I wouldn't say that guy is a saint; he was pretty passive-aggressive. He shouldn't have engaged her bullshit. That being said he didn't deserve all the shit he was getting.
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You must be kidding. But I can tell you are not. He was nicer than he needed to be the whole time.
 
Lama said:
after some backlash she deleted her twitter account and someone took her username.

"Masters in Women's Studies at the University of Honolulu. Thesis on how the patriarchy shames women in today's rape culture. CEO of porn site."
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Hahaha fucking female neckbeard get the fuck outta here.
 
Just the worst type of person. Ignorant, rude and starved for likes.
Cobalt Izuna said:
oops lol
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It's okay. It will become the new way to refer to these tumblr users in a disparaging way.
140.85 said:
"Give me what I want or I will make you a meme and destroy your life."

How did we get here? Is it a by-product of the internet age, concept creep or maybe both?
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Social media was a mistake. Not in a jokey Miyazaki meme way, either. It was a mistake, and society was not ready for it.
 
Crayon said:
You must be kidding. But I can tell you are not. He was nicer than he needed to be the whole time.
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I don't know...I kind of agree with Slate Soda. At their cores, SJWs like this are essentially trolls who do whatever they can to get a reaction. There's really no winning when it comes to interacting with them because they either end up with smug satisfaction or bitter spite.
 
Crayon said:
You must be kidding. But I can tell you are not. He was nicer than he needed to be the whole time.
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You're right. He kept his composure, sure. I just didn't get the whole "oh he's a saint thing" towards the beginning of this thread. Some of it was a bit passive aggressive and some of it was a bit unprofessional on his part. In any case he was clearly feeding her.
 
Slate Soda said:
I wouldn't say that guy is a saint; he was pretty passive-aggressive. He shouldn't have engaged her bullshit. That being said he didn't deserve all the shit he was getting.
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Please tell us exactly what he should have done then. Because I really don't see how he could have handled that kind of crazy any better than he did.

Ah never mind I see you did.
 
BennyBlanco said:
Does it matter? The video speaks for itself and the person who took it acknowledged it happened.
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If you're acknowledging her acknowledgement, then you're also acknowledging that he's admitted she was being drunk and an idiot. So she's not herself defending it, she's walking it back. Now the question becomes to what extent this should be spread give that this has happened, and to what extent she should face consequences. Her acknowledgment, which you have read based on your own post, says she's being harassed everywhere online and getting abusive stuff hurled at her and having her name ruined. You chose to post it anyway. Does this mean you feel she is facing an appropriate consequence, or that it's not getting enough attention--i.e. she's getting off easy? Maybe you think that everyone is individually responsible and sharing or spreading a story gives you no responsibility as to the consequences--if it's true, it should be shared. You chose to share it for a reason.

I think the source matters because many times, things are true. Yes, it is factually true she seems like a projecting, angry "SJW" ranting about the evils of the world in a totally inappropriate venue to someone who doesn't deserve it, not making a clear point, and it's pretty understandable that the driver kicked a drunk belligerent out of the car. I don't think this guy asked to be caught up in a culture war, I think he is a victim of someone lashing out, and now he's a victim again of people recruiting him into their pre-existing fight.

... But something being true doesn't mean it makes sense to be national news, propagated by outrage culture outlets. Yes, it's true, many stories are propagated by outrage culture people on the left, where every little minor mistake has to be amplified into a national news story about injustice in society--and most of those stories are also stupid minor things being amplified unnecessarily. I agree, someone spreading a story about how their cafeteria served tacos or their university had a yoga class is hysterical, and if they target a specific person, like calling out a white yoga instructor as a racist, that is unconscionable and has the possibility of ruining that person's life. But this story, which you posted, is being propagated and amplified by outrage culture people on the right. You have to recognize that giving a national megaphone to every time a social justice person says something idiotic is just as bad as social justice people giving a national megaphone to any time they seem minor daily offence in something. It plays to all of our worst instincts.

This is a video designed to get you to watch and get angry at the person in the video. Look at the thread's responses to see if it was successful. People are angry. How dare this woman. Let's look at her Twitter. What does she do for a living? Is she a hypocrite? Has she done this in the past? These are all things people are doing in the thread. Video -> Anger -> Action. I googled this video URL as well as the video URL of the previous time it was being posted. It is being spread by: 1) Gamergate sources (Lauren Southern), 2) reddit subreddits dedicated to fighting against the evils of social justice (including /r/drama, /r/socialjusticeinaction, /r/The_Donald, /r/CringeAnarchy, /r/SargonOfAkkad), 3) 4chan sources like /pol/ and /int/. That's where the interest in this is originating from.

I am not impugning your motives. Maybe you found it totally innocently. It would be hard to tell because you didn't leave any commentary in your first post. Certainly as a poster I recognize that you doesn't like "SJW"s, doesn't like feminists, doesn't like Anita Sarkeesian, doesn't like Black Lives Matter, and does like Trump. That's fine. I have no interest in adjudicating who you are as a person. I'm simply pointing out that someone looking at the thread, looking at you, looking at the sources spreading this story, might conclude that this context is important to how we receive the story. I think the source, the poster, and the story being told all connect very well. You think social justice is embarrassing, and this is an embarrassing case of social justice, so you are presenting it as evidence as part of your argument.

But I also remember that when someone started a thread to talk about stabbings at a neo-nazi rally, you made the argument that we shouldn't be paying attention to loud but ultimately irrelevant extremists. Is this a position you still hold, or do you now think we should pay attention to loud but ultimately irrelevant extremists?

I think considering the source and their story is not merely an ad hom, but an important part of contextualizing the story. Granted that it is true and this person is an idiot. Now what? How big should the story get? How much should we give into our outrage? Should we spread this? Why do the people who spread a story do so? Why did you spread it? I think these are questions worth asking.

What should be the consequences for this woman to her life as it goes forward? I think we should be honest with ourselves. If you think she should be fired, say it. If you think she should be run off the internet, say it. If you think newspapers should cover this, say it. If you think she deserves the abuse she gets because she handed out abuse in this video, say it. This can become a thread that's not just about one person being a stupid idiot, but actually shines a spotlight on how we should respond to this stuff.

In the mean time, this is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about in yesterday's thread about social media outrage. I think outage culture is bad, I think people who propagate it are doing us a profound disservice, and I think it's an absolutely relevant discussion when I see a story like this. Regardless of what anyone's politics are, if their interests involve sharing benign stories about people being shitty in order to make them go national, I think they're in the wrong. I think you could be a better person if you tried.
 
Slate Soda said:
You're right. He kept his composure, sure. I just didn't get the whole "oh he's a saint thing" towards the beginning of this thread. Some of it was a bit passive aggressive and some of it was a bit unprofessional on his part. In any case he was clearly feeding her.
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There is no fault whatsoever what he's done, none.
 
dream said:
I don't know...I kind of agree with Slate Soda. At their cores, SJWs like this are essentially trolls who do whatever they can to get a reaction. There's really no winning when it comes to interacting with them because they either end up with smug satisfaction or bitter spite.
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Slate Soda said:
You're right. He kept his composure, sure. I just didn't get the whole "oh he's a saint thing" towards the beginning of this thread. Some of it was a bit passive aggressive and some of it was a bit unprofessional on his part. In any case he was clearly feeding her.
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Okay, so I don't know your backgrounds in customer service but being put on the spot like this driver can be very trying. It's not as easy as it looks to keep a sense of humor about this type of situation or just let it roll off your back. Some people act as if paying for a service includes the option to abuse the worker as they are somewhat captive by their desire to do a good job. Sometimes you can manage to ignore it completely, sometimes someone ends up dead, and sometimes it ends up inbetween. He did an excellent job.
 
Stumpokapow said:
If you're acknowledging her acknowledgement, then you're also acknowledging that he's admitted she was being drunk and an idiot. So she's not herself defending it, she's walking it back. Now the question becomes to what extent this should be spread give that this has happened, and to what extent she should face consequences. Her acknowledgment, which you have read based on your own post, says she's being harassed everywhere online and getting abusive stuff hurled at her and having her name ruined. You chose to post it anyway. Does this mean you feel she is facing an appropriate consequence, or that it's not getting enough attention--i.e. she's getting off easy? Maybe you think that everyone is individually responsible and sharing or spreading a story gives you no responsibility as to the consequences--if it's true, it should be shared. You chose to share it for a reason.

I think the source matters because many times, things are true. Yes, it is factually true she seems like a projecting, angry SJW ranting about the evils of the world in a totally inappropriate venue to someone who doesn't deserve it, not making a clear point, and it's pretty understandable that the driver kicked a drunk belligerent out of the car. I don't think this guy asked to be caught up in a culture war, I think he is a victim of someone lashing out, and now he's a victim again of people recruiting him into their pre-existing fight.

... But something being true doesn't mean it makes sense to be national news, propagated by outrage culture outlets. Yes, it's true, many stories are propagated by outrage culture people on the left, where every little minor mistake has to be amplified into a national news story about injustice in society--and most of those stories are also stupid minor things being amplified unnecessarily. I agree, someone spreading a story about how their cafeteria served tacos or their university had a yoga class is hysterical, and if they target a specific person, like calling out a white yoga instructor as a racist, that is unconscionable and has the possibility of ruining that person's life. But this story, which you posted, is being propagated and amplified by outrage culture people on the right. You have to recognize that giving a national megaphone to every time a social justice person says something idiotic is just as bad as social justice people giving a national megaphone to any time they seem minor daily offence in something. It plays to all of our worst instincts.

This is a video designed to get you to watch and get angry at the person in the video. Look at the thread's responses to see if it was successful. People are angry. How dare this woman. I googled this video URL as well as the video URL of the previous time it was being posted. It is being spread by: 1) Gamergate sources (Lauren Southern), 2) reddit subreddits dedicated to fighting against the evils of social justice (including /r/drama), 3) 4chan sources like /pol/ and /int/. That's where the interest in this is originating from.

I am not impugning your motives. Maybe you found it totally innocently. It would be hard to tell because you didn't leave any commentary in your first post. Certainly as a poster I recognize that you doesn't like SJWs, doesn't like feminists, doesn't like Anita Sarkeesian, doesn't like Black Lives Matter, and does like Trump. That's fine. I have no interest in adjudicating who you are as a person. I'm simply pointing out that someone looking at the thread, looking at you, looking at the sources spreading this story, might conclude that this context is important to how we receive the story. I think the source, the poster, and the story being told all connect very well. You think social justice is embarrassing, and this is an embarrassing case of social justice, so you are presenting it as evidence as part of your argument.

But I also remember that when someone started a thread to talk about stabbings at a neo-nazi rally, you made the argument that we shouldn't be paying attention to loud but ultimately irrelevant extremists. Is this a position you still hold, or do you now think we should pay attention to loud but ultimate irrelevant extremists?

I think considering the source and their story is not merely an ad hom, but an important part of contextualizing the story. Granted that it is true and this person is an idiot. Now what? How big should the story get? How much should we give into our outrage? Should we spread this? Why do the people who spread a story? Why did you spread it? I think these are questions worth asking.

What should be the consequences for this woman to her life as it goes forward? I think we should be honest with ourselves. If you think she should be fired, say it. If you think she should be run off the internet, say it. If you think newspapers should cover this, say it. If you think she deserves the abuse she gets because she handed out abuse in this video, say it. This can become a thread that's not just about one person being a stupid idiot, but actually shines a spotlight on how we should respond to this stuff.

In the mean time, this is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about in yesterday's thread about social media outrage. I think outage culture is bad, I think people who propagate it are doing us a profound disservice, and I think it's an absolutely relevant discussion when I see a story like this. Regardless of what anyone's politics are, if their interests involve sharing benign stories about people being shitty in order to make them go national, I think they're in the wrong. I think you could be a better person if you tried.
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I saw it on twitter and thought it was a pretty funny video. If you don't think it's appropriate to post here because they included her full name, I understand. Videos of people embarrassing themselves are funny sometimes.

Not sure why you're bringing up that thread with the neo nazi rally. I understood why I was banned and maybe I didn't get my point across as well as I could have. It's not like I was sympathetic to their cause.

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Toologist said:
As a fellow Polynesian, I can safely say that NO ONE in Hawaii is ever offended at hula girl bobbleheads. Hell, we manufacture them and sell them in so many little shops there, and they encourage people from all over to buy them. We see it as a respect and acknowledgement to the culture. So, whatever this chick is saying is just flat out wrong.

"Continent of Hawaii" was already enough for me to cut the video off, but I hung in there an kept going. Jesus. Her response letter was painful to read, as well.
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As someone who has never been to Hawaii, the culture over there has always been lauded. Dashboard hula girls always seemed like a reminder/motivator for a life that could be.
 
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