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Late Night Wars - Conan's last Tonight Show was TONIGHT a long time ago

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RBH said:
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What a traitor.
Coco is nearly on the streets & unemployed from the guy who stole his job & Letterman decides to work with the enemy.

I say we boycott Letterman as well, it is obvious he only cares for the money.
 
better to have the sheeple army rallying behind Leno than working against something important, like vaccinations for kids!

well, unless you're crazily invested in the late night wars

or if you're already Autistic

actually those two might go together!
 
See You Next Wednesday said:
What a traitor.
Coco is nearly on the streets & unemployed from the guy who stole his job & Letterman decides to work with the enemy.

I say we boycott Letterman as well, it is obvious he only cares for the money.
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to arms
 
DeathbyVolcano said:
good lord, are we really going to have to talk about this again? He went on there to try and save face, and he still came off like a dick to many. And I already know what you're going to reply, so: Oprah's audience will do whatever Oprah tells them too, that's why they're much more sympathetic for him now.
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Okay, well now you can answer my question: why was it wrong for Oprah to have him on? You having a frightening amount of hate for Leno doesn't mean it was WRONG for her to do it. She has a talk show, she's friends with Jay, she had an opportunity for ratings. That's her job.

Yet here you are, acting as if she had Hitler on the show to explain his side of the story.
 
omg rite said:
Okay, well now you can answer my question: why was it wrong for Oprah to have him on? You having a frightening amount of hate for Leno doesn't mean it was WRONG for her to do it. She has a talk show, she's friends with Jay, she had an opportunity for ratings. That's her job.

Yet here you are, acting as if she had Hitler on the show to explain his side of the story.
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I never said it was wrong for her to have him on. *shrugs* In fact she wanted to have Conan on as well but obviously he couldn't.
 
Chamber said:
I missed you, omg rite.
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I missed me too!

I loved watching this thread from afar over the past month. I am 110% on Team Conan. He did everything right, is a thousand times funner than Jay, and should still have The Tonight Show.

But at one point someone in the thread, in complete seriousness, said that he wished Jay Leno had been murdered instead of Phil Hartman. I'm just reading it like "what the fuck is wrong with you?" :lol
 
See You Next Wednesday said:
Wasn't it a Doritos commercial?
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It was a Late Show commercial.

It was a great idea. Both Leno and Letterman need eyes to remain on them. Plus, having it air during the Super Bowl guarantees MANY eyes and it's exactly the kind of commercial people will talk about the next day. Letterman doesn't look like a sell out since he still gets to express his joking disgust for Leno, yet seems like a good sport. Leno gets to portray his harmless, nice guy role while also seeming like a good sport. Oprah... exposure is good.

Ninja Scooter said:
maybe this will make some of you freaks lighten up and realize the whole situation wasn't as life and death as you guys make it out to be.
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Not to suggest anything is life and death here, but why would this commercial change perceptions? Dave probably still thinks Leno's a tool, but ultimately doing something like this is great for his own ratings and reputation.

Also, the first one was much funnier. "We both win because we're in love". So good.
 
omg rite said:
Aw, that sucks. It would have been great.

Right after Leno, the camera could pan over to the left again, where we would see Conan looking at them and angrily mutter a bleeped out "**** you".
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:lol

Hell, get them all in there. After the Angry Conan shot pan over to Kimmel and Ferguson just enjoying the game.
 
AlternativeUlster said:
If Conan showed up, wouldn't that be against his exit clause with NBC saying he couldn't appear on television for a certain period of time
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The clause was that he couldn't do any interviews or host any shows, one might argue that this ad doesn't qualify. Even if it does, Leno probably has a clause in his contract against appearing on an ad for Letterman, but he got an approval from NBC, and NBC would probably be willing to grant an exemption.
 
wow jay really milking the commercial thing. "shook his hand. whatever happened the last 18 years . . . disappeared." guess it's all settled then!
 
You know what? That's pretty damn cool if they actually hung out and just talked, as if that whole mess 18 years ago didn't happen. Pretty neat.
 
I thought Stern today had the best idea when he said the camera should have panned out to show that Conan was a human couch they were sitting on like in Bruno:lol
 
DeathbyVolcano said:
Pretty sure they didn't.
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So Letterman invited Jay to New York and everything Leno said was a lie. They didn't shake hands and have a polite conversation even though the one who has been holding the grudge sent out the invite.

You're incredible. :lol

You really need to hate Leno no matter what. You can't even admit this was a pretty cool thing that happened -- seeing two old friends who haven't talked in 18 years basically patch things up.

I'll never understand this insane amount of hatred you have for the man. Shouldn't you be upset with Dave for bashing Leno for a month then inviting him to New York for a tea party?
 
omg rite said:
So Letterman invited Jay to New York and everything Leno said was a lie. They didn't shake hands and have a polite conversation even though the one who has been holding the grudge sent out the invite.

You're incredible. :lol

You really need to hate Leno no matter what. You can't even admit this was a pretty cool thing that happened -- seeing two old friends who haven't talked in 18 years basically patch things up.

I'll never understand this insane amount of hatred you have for the man. Shouldn't you be upset with Dave for bashing Leno for a month then inviting him to New York for a tea party?
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I don't think anything about them filming the commercial was about Dave patching things up with Leno. Dave just thought it'd be funny.

Hell, Dave's grudge with Leno seems to rest on Leno being a phony. Acting innocent and oblivious while scheming as much if not more as anyone else. The fact Dave didn't punch him square in the [big] jaw doesn't mean the hatchet is buried.
 
omg rite said:
So Letterman invited Jay to New York and everything Leno said was a lie. They didn't shake hands and have a polite conversation even though the one who has been holding the grudge sent out the invite.

You're incredible. :lol

You really need to hate Leno no matter what. You can't even admit this was a pretty cool thing that happened -- seeing two old friends who haven't talked in 18 years basically patch things up.

I'll never understand this insane amount of hatred you have for the man. Shouldn't you be upset with Dave for bashing Leno for a month then inviting him to New York for a tea party?
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Errr what? You said "shake hands and have a polite conversation", but what he replied to was "hung out and just talked, as if that whole mess had never happened". Those are two different things as far as I'm concerned.

I think they probably did shake hands and have a polite conversation. But I don't think they hung out and shot the shit as if nothing had ever happened. That's... unlikely.
 
maharg said:
:lol

Hell, get them all in there. After the Angry Conan shot pan over to Kimmel and Ferguson just enjoying the game.
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Also, Carson Daly being shown, watching the game all by his own in the middle of nowhere.
 
OK, I've gone through, like, 80 pages of this thread trying to find a link to a website to no avail; can someone help me? It's a link to a website that has this huge history about the tonight show, talking about Jack Paar's final monologue and whatnot. (I also think that the site had a black background written in white text, it that helps.)
 
Personifried said:
I don't think anything about them filming the commercial was about Dave patching things up with Leno. Dave just thought it'd be funny.
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Yeah, I know. I didn't say it was about that.

Socreges said:
Errr what? You said "shake hands and have a polite conversation", but what he replied to was "hung out and just talked, as if that whole mess had never happened". Those are two different things as far as I'm concerned.

I think they probably did shake hands and have a polite conversation. But I don't think they hung out and shot the shit as if nothing had ever happened. That's... unlikely.
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Okay well then, I guess you can believe Leno blatantly lied about what happen. I'll choose to believe him I guess.
 
DeathbyVolcano said:
omg rite envisioning fantasies that diddle his warped viewpoint, yet again
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What fantasy am I envisioning? The situation Leno detailed? You don't believe him so it automatically becomes fact that he's lying? How is my viewpoint warped? Explain it. Rather than just talking out of your ass with a terrible new user name, explain it.

Is my viewpoint warped because I'm on Team Conan yet I don't put most of the blame on Jay? Do you actually think your opinion is a fact? Get over yourself, please.

I find it hilarious that you keep quoting me and replying with some sort of "Ha! Well of course YOU would think that." That's lovely and all, but you're not actually saying anything. You're just typing words.
 
Kibbles said:
I come here for updates on Conan, yet I find everyone bashing Leno still. FFS.
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If you're following the news media and late night shows, it's not a stretch to say that this is as much about Leno as it is about Conan. Letterman, Kimmel, Ferguson, et al have all been bashing or making fun of Leno--even Ricky Gervais--so I don't see how it's a big surprise.
 
I was just listening to some podcasts and I realized just how amazing a talk show with Ricky Gervais, Stephen Merchant and Karl Pilkington would be.

It would destroy any of the late night competitors. But it would be largely off topic and have no room for guests :lol
 
Discotheque said:
I was just listening to some podcasts and I realized just how amazing a talk show with Ricky Gervais, Stephen Merchant and Karl Pilkington would be.

It would destroy any of the late night competitors. But it would be largely off topic and have no room for guests :lol
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That reminds me, the Ricky Gervais Show comes to HBO next Friday :D
 
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