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How are they going to kill off Captain America and have Iron Man bow out? They have to have at least one of them as the leader of the team. I assume RDJ will become too expensive for another set of movies.

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Steve dying is Tony's fault?

Along with Ultron I could see that as a very plausible setup for

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Tony to call it quits

 

[Zeus Molecules]

Wait we might not be getting

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worhty Cap fucking up Thanos? Nooooooooooooo

thats what movie 2 will be about.... I hope

 

[Bobby Roberts]

So, a tossup basically.

Not exactly the most reassuring.

You're right, it's not something you can inherently trust. But it's also not "ban them from the site they're worse than the Daily Mail" level, either.

They've actually got a better track record than a fair amount of sites that are linked back here when it comes to rumors.

So basically, we've got Latino Review's word versus Comic Book Resources. That's it.

No other confirms or denials from any other sources.

 

[Boombloxer]

A post credits cameo could simply be someone in the costume



I didn't click the review because I'm afraid of more spoilers like that one spoiler.

I'm torn on Garfield Spidey. I like Garfield in the role but man he got saddled with bad movies. He's the Pierce Brosnan 007 of the Spidey franchise.

You misspelled Timothy Dalton.

Brosnan was a great Bond, and his films made bank.

 

[Blader]

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How are they going to kill off Captain America and have Iron Man bow out? They have to have at least one of them as the leader of the team. I assume RDJ will become too expensive for another set of movies.

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Bucky-Cap as the team leader, Spider-Man as the crowd draw.

plus, the whole point of phase 3 -- among other things -- to launch a bunch of new characters into films and ideally have those be successful too. It doesn't bode well for Marvel's long-term success if audiences are so attached to the Downey, Evans, Hemsworth crew that movies like Strange, Ant-Man, or Panther don't work.

Guardians of the Galaxy was a really good success for Marvel for a slew of reasons, but not the least of which is that it was a completely new IP, largely divorced from the Avengers, that people still loved.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Sure.

Here's the third time linking to a quick look at their recent track record, which is somewhere around 60% correct to 40% incorrect.

Also, not for nothing, but waiting for Variety/THR is a good idea both for confirmations AND debunks.

Except that every time you bring up that post of LR batting averages, you conveniently leave out gold like this, which would skew LR's batting average back to where it belongs.

 

[BadAss2961]

Sony: "We're not smart, let's try to save the franchise one more time."

Actually, I don't see why they'd be so desperate to lend Spidey to Marvel. The ASM movies made a lot of money even with lukewarm reception and mediocre reviews.

 

[ElTopo]

I guess the big question is if an Avengers movie could work without Iron Man? The Iron Man trilogy is easily the most successful (at a financial level) of all of the individual Marvel movies and the biggest audience pleaser (for the most part, I like 2 and 3, come at me). RDJ was a big reason why Avengers worked. I didn't really care about Hawkeye or Captain America or Black Widow. Thor didn't have much of a character (and the solo Thor movies are terrible) but at least he had interesting powers. I thought Captain America 2 was pretty decent.

If anything I thought they would kill off Hawkeye.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

plus, the whole point of phase 3 -- among other things -- to launch a bunch of new characters into films and ideally have those be successful too. It doesn't bode well for Marvel's long-term success if audiences are so attached to the Downey, Evans, Hemsworth crew that movies like Strange, Ant-Man, or Panther don't work.

Guardians of the Galaxy was a really good success for Marvel for a slew of reasons, but not the least of which is that it was a completely new IP, largely divorced from the Avengers, that people still loved.

These are all really good points.

 

[Hagi]

Can't say i would care if this is indeed false because i do enjoy them not relying on their biggest household name to sell their movie brand.

Except that every time you bring up that post of LR batting averages, you conveniently leave out gold like this, which would skew LR's batting average back to where it belongs.

Whats exclusive about that? there's no "according to sources" or "we read a leaked script Cameron hasn't even written yet" lol all they did was post a snippet of an interview and pull something straight out of their arse.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Whats exclusive about that? there's no "according to sources" or "we read a leaked script Cameron hasn't even written yet" lol all they did was post a snippet of an interview and pull something straight out of their arse.

Nah, there's an "according to sources" in there, it's just that the sources are complete bullshit. That's another huge swing & a miss for Mayimbe.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Nah, there's an "according to sources" in there, it's just that the sources are complete bullshit. That's another huge swing & a miss for Mayimbe.

Not just sources. But

In fact, according to top level sources, a bad guy human general is going to be played by someone who hasn't worked with James Cameron in almost 20 years. Ready? It's none other than...

...ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER! BOOM!

!!!

lol

 

[Hagi]

By top level sources i can only assume they have a direct line to Cameron himself which would explain Sculli's distaste for them.

 

[Father_Brain]

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Bucky-Cap as the team leader, Spider-Man as the crowd draw.

plus, the whole point of phase 3 -- among other things -- to launch a bunch of new characters into films and ideally have those be successful too. It doesn't bode well for Marvel's long-term success if audiences are so attached to the Downey, Evans, Hemsworth crew that movies like Strange, Ant-Man, or Panther don't work.

Guardians of the Galaxy was a really good success for Marvel for a slew of reasons, but not the least of which is that it was a completely new IP, largely divorced from the Avengers, that people still loved.

On a related note, they also have to do something to balance out the fact that Infinity War will presumably be the least accessible film they've made thus far.

 

[The One and Done™]

Don't believe this shit people.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

By top level sources i can only assume they have a direct line to Cameron himself which would explain Sculli's distaste for them.

Yeah they have some pretty special top-level sources. Speaking of which, I think I finally discovered part of the reason ol' Bobby Roberts defends Latino Review's lax judgement with their sketchy sources.

Because he is one.

I can't believe I forgot about that time where Latino Review cited Bobby citing some bullshit post on this very forum as a source.

 

[BadAss2961]

Yeah they have some pretty special top-level sources. Speaking of which, I think I finally discovered part of the reason ol' Bobby Roberts defends Latino Review's lax judgement with their sketchy sources.

Because he is one.

I can't believe I forgot about that time where Latino Review cited Bobby citing some bullshit post on this very forum as a source.

lol.

I almost forgot.

 

[Vespene]

 

[Bobby Roberts]

lol.

I almost forgot.

Shit, that's right. Dave did that. I'd completely forgotten.

For what its worth, I didnt ask him to do that, nor did I expect him to do that. We were bullshitting about movies, like I tend to do, and pointed him towards that post from woods like "you heard anything about this shit?"

My only real interest in poking at the "LOL Latino Review" meme that gets propagated here is the basic "there's more to it than that" level of perspective I try to add to most of the shit I post in here.

I certainly don't get anything out of it most times, obviously.

 

[squidyj]

How does that help?

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Are you implying that he could come back to life for movie 2?

he's a fucking comic book character. what do you think?

 

[Pai Pai Master]

LR sucks lol

 

[Marion Cobretti]

Yeah they have some pretty special top-level sources. Speaking of which, I think I finally discovered part of the reason ol' Bobby Roberts defends Latino Review's lax judgement with their sketchy sources.

Because he is one.

I can't believe I forgot about that time where Latino Review cited Bobby citing some bullshit post on this very forum as a source.

Oh shit this one had me rolling.

That's too good.

Wait, what are we discussing? Oh right spiderman. True or not, at the very least we know talks are happening. So there's something to be said for that. Or nothing at all.

 

[nomis]

Shit, that's right. Dave did that. I'd completely forgotten.

For what its worth, I didnt ask him to do that, nor did I expect him to do that. We were bullshitting about movies, like I tend to do, and pointed him towards that post from woods like "you heard anything about this shit?"

My only real interest in poking at the "LOL Latino Review" meme that gets propagated here is the basic "there's more to it than that" level of perspective I try to add to most of the shit I post in here.

I certainly don't get anything out of it most times, obviously.

Right more often than wrong is sure a better fucking batting average than the "LOL latino review what a bunch of bullshit they're just pulling these out of their ass" that everyone seems to spew the second they are ever mentioned on this forum would have you think. Movie business is fluid and things that were accurate when they were reported can become wrong when the movie finishes production. People only tend to remember when someone gets a rumor wrong, because they get mad at it and that strong emotion sticks with them.

LATINO REVIEW GOT THAT ONE TDKR THING WRONG THAT I WAS REALLY ATTACHED TO BEING RIGHT SO NOW I HATE THEM AND THEY'RE BULLSHITTERS

 

[ericexpo]

Saw this earlier, didn't make a thread because they really buried the lead, and it sounded fishy.



The newest Spider-Man; BARRY ALLEN

Read this in dr wells voice

 

[munchie64]

Because he is one.

The plot thickens.

 

[Kard8p3]

mmm give me grant gustin, since he won't be film flash.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Oh shit this one had me rolling.

That's too good.

Heh, relive the past: Here's the thread in question.

The plot thickens.

Nah, not really. Again, for clarification's sake - I didn't send this to Dave as a scoop or whatever. I know Dave from before he even started writing for Latino Review, and bullshit with him about movies every now and again. I linked him to that post like "how much of this do you think is bullshit" (considering the opening sentence Woods used) and he ended up turning that into a post on his site.

I got no particular amount of pride or sense of self-worth out of it. Hell, I'd completely forgotten that had even happened until someone dug it up.

 

[munchie64]

Nah, not really. Again, for clarification's sake - I didn't send this to Dave as a scoop or whatever. I know Dave from before he even started writing for Latino Review, and bullshit with him about movies every now and again. I linked him to that post like "how much of this do you think is bullshit" (considering the opening sentence Woods used) and he turned it into a post on his site.

I got no particular amount of pride or sense of self-worth out of it. Hell, I'd completely forgotten that had even happened until someone dug it up.

Yeah I was just joking around. I probably put more credit to this rumour than most when I first read it.

I don't read Latino Review but Dave has some good Marvel predictions in a some podcasts he's in.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I don't read Latino Review but Dave has some good Marvel predictions in a some podcasts he's in.

I think he does more podcasts than me now.

 

[Rogue_Ledr]

So glad Garfield is gone.

.......... and thus end the dark times .......

 

[Neoxon]

Sure.

Here's the third time linking to a quick look at their recent track record, which is somewhere around 60% correct to 40% incorrect.

Also, not for nothing, but waiting for Variety/THR is a good idea both for confirmations AND debunks.

This, essentially. Of course Sony would deny it & this video does a better job of explaining why than I ever could. But I'm just gonna wait & see at this point.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I can't imagine the ONLY outlet to have reached out to Sony on this would be Comic Book Resources, right?

Someone else has to have called 'em, surely.

 

[Neoxon]

I can't imagine the ONLY outlet to have reached out to Sony on this would be Comic Book Resources, right?

Someone else has to have called 'em, surely.

Plus this wouldn't be the first time someone denied rumors that turned out to be true. Benedict Cumberbatch as Doctor Strange & Chadwick Boseman as Black Panther are prime examples of this. Hell, Sony tends to deny rumors of games that turn out to be true. Again, all explained in the video I linked earlier.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

I can't imagine the ONLY outlet to have reached out to Sony on this would be Comic Book Resources, right?

Someone else has to have called 'em, surely.

I'm gladly finding that the more reliable rags aren't giving sites like Latino Review the time of day when it turns out to be bunk. Better than propagating their 'rumour'. I'm guessing/hoping they probably check a source, hear it's bullshit and move on without giving LR the attention they crave.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I don't know if anyone's actually posted it, but here's Faraci's article on the rumor:

We know that Sony is having a Spider-Man summit this month, but we don't know what has/will happen there (a bogus report is floating around claiming they're planning a Spidey movie that would see Andrew Garfield go toe-to-toe with Tobey Maguire). If the summit has happened it's possible that Sony and Marvel have reached an agreement, but an agreement isn't a legal deal. Whatever is agreed will need to wend its way through the legal departments of both studios, which could take time and could cause problems.

The big stumbling block for getting Spidey at Marvel is Avi Arad; Avi is attached to the property in an ironclad way, and Kevin Feige will never work with that old man again. There's no love lost between the two, and Feige is frankly in a 'fuck you' position when it comes to Spider-Man - it would be cool for Marvel to get him the studio certainly isn't hurting for him. Unless Sony figured out how to freeze Avi out I just don't know how they could ever reach a deal.

But like I said, Latino Review's source on this is a good one. I just hope everybody doesn't jump to the conclusion that it is happening. A lot can change between now and 2018.

 

[TheVampire]

No mention of at least Hawkeye still in Infinite War war?

 

[Blader]

No mention of at least Hawkeye still in Infinite War war?

well, why wouldn't he be?

 

[ZoddGutts]

No mention of at least Hawkeye still in Infinite War war?

Would anyone care if he's in it or not?

 

[Dalek]

Good link, Bobby. Thanks!

 

[Secret Fawful]

Heh, relive the past: Here's the thread in question.

Holy shit. I don't even remember posting in this topic, but I sure picked a bad time to stop reading it.

 

[Gleethor]

I don't know if anyone's actually posted it, but here's Faraci's article on the rumor:

Hmmm.

 

[nawwafh]

Garfield is awesome as Spidey.. any chance of him returning?

 

[Blader]

Garfield is awesome as Spidey.. any chance of him returning?

Unless he's running one hell of a re-election campaign on Sony, then basically no.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I'd imagine at this point he might not even want to keep playing the guy.

 

[CloudyTuba]

he's a fucking comic book character. what do you think?

The question is not whether its possible, its whether Marvel would do that in the MCU. We'll find out.

 

[dankir]

The question is not whether its possible, its whether Marvel would do that in the MCU. We'll find out.

Well have Dr. Strange and Astral plain stuff, infinity gauntlet and all the stones, asgardian magic, inhumans, etc. It's completely possible that he's brought back to life.

 

[Dai101]

Well have Dr. Strange and Astral plain stuff, infinity gauntlet and all the stones, asgardian magic, inhumans, etc. It's completely possible that he's brought back to life.

Also that was the sole porpouse of Project T.A.H.I.T.I.

 

[loaf of bread]

Guardians are in this one right?

 

[Wag]

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Marvel's being quiet about how/when the Guardians might crossover with earthbound Marvel.