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Legend of Korra Book 3: Change |OT| SCHEDULEBENDING
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Modesty becomes a woman
Did they write every single episode and every single line of dialogue in 1 and 2? I find that unlikely.
But also not improbable.
Dude they gotta be scrambling. For one reason or another, a 4 episode leak seems to have prompted them to just start the show earlier than they intended. So all the other deals like iTunes and merchandise have got to be way behind.
I bet there's gonna be a huge hiatus between episode 6 and 7, just so they catch up with the leaks and can get every thing else settled if it isn't by then.
I suspect both malice and incompetence here, can't believe Nick keeps fucking this up.
Anyway, first three episodes were great, highly temped to look for the leaks now. I love where the writers seem to be going with this. Seriously how do the writers keep coming up with these amazing ideas and themes to extend and explore the avatar universe? They could easily have stretched the plots of season 1&2 into an entire series. I hope they do justice to season 3 and tie it up nicely for once but I'm enjoying the ride so far.
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
So are we getting another episode next week? Whats Nick's schedule for this now?
Definitely no episode next week (July 4th). After that? Who knows, probably not even Nick
Thanks for the info. I think I'll se about watching the leaked ones as well tonight. I'm already interested in the villains. Adding to that interest...interests. me.
UnnecessaryTodd
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This could not be more in sync with how I felt about the first 3 episodes. I had this really gut-wrenching feeling when I was watching the first two episodes, but I re-watched them later along with the third and I think it was mostly just a knee-jerk reaction to some of my S2 hatred. I think the best thing was like you said Korra actually having backbone and real drive to get her problems solved, as well as actually having decent ideas of what to do rather than just attacking the problem with bending.
I think there was a crucial part of the 'Legend' of Legend of Korra that's missing from this series in that she was this prodigy Avatar in a sense, having incredible atunement to 3 of the elements from a very early age. She earned her right to be cocky and headstrong because she was so ahead of the curve for so long but when the Legend of Korra began, she was just this bratty stubborn mess of an Avatar and it took her two seasons to have any of these lessons actually stick. Now that she finally is starting to grasp her Avatar powers and responsibilities with a sense of scope of her actions I'm really excited to see her become more and more confident in her actions as the Avatar in bringing in the change that Book 3 is named after.
I still think that there's some issues with the dialogue of this series. Bolin's dialogue in particular seems to be really lazy and that might just be his character is really not that intelligent and he's more the 'heart' of the group, but I'd rather see some actual wit from his jokes rather than the sitcom-ish punchlines he's been giving. Which is a shame because I really like Bolin as a character. Mako is just a trainwreck. I get the feeling the writers have no real idea what to do with him. Funnily enough Bolin's description of him as Broody Teenager is pretty much accurate to his entire protrayal, except that he's also a cop!... and while I like Asami it seems that her character has devloved to being "The person who has stuff the protagonist needs". She has the car, and the airship, and... very little character outside of her business if you take away the romance with Mako. I want to see her become a more fleshed out character.
I think my favourite scene of these episodes was when Korra talked to the airbender on the bridge. It made her seem like an actual person with depth of character who can actually relate to people which I felt wasn't really there before. I'm hoping we get more of these humanizing moments from the rest of the cast because I think it's a major part of what's missing from the series and one of the main reasons ATLA was so good.
I still don't like the designs of the spirits compared to how they seemed in ATLA, but that's not something that can be helped at this stage, and I'm trying to just accept it on the basis of how good the Wan episodes were.
YES
Anyway, great episodes so far. Korra still is a bit of a hothead, but seems way more balanced compared to season 2. Scenes with Asami are fun and should have happened way sooner. Them becoming gal pals isn't bad. Well for everyone not named Mako that is.
Bolin keeps on being Bolin that's great.
New baddies seem awesome.
Amibguous Cad
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Ummm, sorry if this has already been asked...
But how do I watch this legally on an ipad? Money is no object...
But how do I watch this legally on an ipad? Money is no object...
Infinite Justice
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Actually other interesting stuff happens with people we already know but i'm just intrigued by the villain
without money
If you can go to Nick.com and not get IP blocked you might be able the watch the eps once they are uploaded (might take a day or 2 after premiere of the new episode though).
with money
Itunes store would be the first place but apparently something is up with the subscription (seems nick didn't renew it yet due to the sudden release?, etc).
Amazon would be the second but it might be in the same situation.
My bad, I forgot the tag code :S
BigBadGiantHand
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What the hell is with all the positivity in this thread, Korra-GAF? That was straight up garbage. Does all it really take is for them to drag out Zuko's decaying old ass for all your guys to lose your shit and overlook all the blatant problems? GAF, you disappoint me.
The part that really pissed me off was
I'll give this a few more epsidoes, but I'm very close to dropping LoK all together. Sad days indeed.
PS:
The part that really pissed me off was
Holy fuck guys, that was great. Where was any of this quality during Book 2? Those are easily the three best (non Wan) episodes since the beginning of Book 1, and maybe the three best (non Wan) epsidoes of the show period, back to back to back. They seem to have really taken the criticisms of Book 1 to heart, cause they have improved on almost all the trouble areas; I'm not saying it was perfect or anything, but greatly improved. Probably most importantly, the pacing felt sooooo much better. The humor hit the mark each time (you doin' good Bolin). All the character interactions were great (especially Korra x Asami), and they made me like/ care about both Mako and Asami, two characters I was very men about up to this point. I can't think of a time in Book 2 where i felt as emotionally effected as I did during both the Tenzin and Kids scene and the Mako scarf scene (as contrived as the reunion was). The Zuko and Eska conversation might be the single greatest thing ever conceived by man. And praise Raava, good (Book 1) Korra is back and shows some signs of actual growth. Both the new villains and action scenes were badass. I could keep gushing, but pretty much everything has already been said here. Everything was so great, and to hear some people saying that the next 3 epsidoes are even better gets me supper jazzed. So excited. Let's just hope they don't fuck up again in the the back half like Book 1.
I'll give this a few more epsidoes, but I'm very close to dropping LoK all together. Sad days indeed.
PS:
Is this real life? Look all that praise coming from Veelk. It makes me super happy that your enjoyed the first few epsidoes. God, and decent writing, willing, I hope Book 3 continues to be good for you.
Episode 4 Sneak Peek
http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/legend-of-korra-204-clip.html
This episode will not premiere until the 11th of July.
http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/legend-of-korra-204-clip.html
This episode will not premiere until the 11th of July.
Lmao, you got me.
Was going to say, I wasn't a fan of how they used Iroh last season And tbh, while I think Zuko was pretty funny in the elevator, he was hardly the highlight of the episodes for me. But lol then I read the rest of your post.
I'm really happy that I ended up really liking these episodes too. I mean, I was a big fan of Book 1 (despite its flaws, which it had many). Book 2 for me, was a very big let down. I was disappointed that I couldn't be happy/excited to talk about it on GAF. So it's nice that I like Book 3 and can discuss it with GAF with some positivity.I mean, I'm not saying the writing is without flaws here either. Throughout the 3 episodes, there are certainly scenes that could have been done differently, or worked better. But in terms of the overall totality of these episodes (in terms of story, structure, pacing, character moments) i really feel they nailed all of them for the most part. For me, the big winner here was how they used the characters (they knew who to pair off, and how to use the characters effectively. Tenzin had a lot fantastic scenes like the one with his family, or him giving that speech to Korra. Korra's speech and all of her scenes with Asami were great. Same with Bolin and Mako, they had some really tender moments together regarding their family). And they found a good balance between all the different characters so it didn't feel messy or incoherent.
And while the villain stuff still kind of lacks depth (this point into the story), at least VISUALLY they are awesome. At least on a surface level, they are entertaining (something they failed to do with the Unalaq character).
BigBadGiantHand
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=)
I'm just fearful that this glorious period of positivity will not last.
You've seen the leaked epsidoes, correct? If so, how do you feel about them (in an non spoilery way)?
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Next 3 are great. I think maybe two of them are better than the previous 3. So the quality continues. I can say that. And yes, the writers do not know how to wrap up plot. So they could easily screw this up in the back half or at the finale. But as far as I'm concerned, I'll just be happy if I enjoy 70% of the season.
Ahh, I'm so excited. <3
Book 2 turned a lot of people off. I hope Book 3 ends strong so we can get more fans to talk to. <3
I feel like the writers are reacting to all the issues of Book 2. Like all the improvements so far are addressing specific problems. SO I HOPE, they also do a better job with the end plot for this arc. There are things they said about Book 2 that I find troubling (which are inexcusable/lazy). But it also sounds like Book 2's production was hell.
Which would make sense given they had to jump between two studios (for the animation), and they were really under the gun with the deadline. Either way, Book 2 seemed like it was a product of a very unstable production cycle. Not that I'm excusing the writing decisions, but that type of thing CAN impact the writing too.
victreeb3l
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Is the villain with the fire shuriken a firebender or an earthbender? I thought I saw Zahir give him some rocks.
Werent the seasons already written before any of the seasons started airing?
Werent the seasons already written before any of the seasons started airing?
It's so ridiculous that when I saw that, I was like, "Why has nobody else thought to do that before"?
I definitely don't want to go back and watch the trailer because now that I have enough details about this season, I fear it'd spoil a lot of it. I'm really down for the villains in this season. They are kinda the anti-team avatar.
Dude is probably on Toph's level.
Don't know. That would be interesting if true! I don't know how animation works, but usually in TV each season isn't written out ahead of time (the scripts I mean). But even if all the scripts are written out before, I doubt they had all of book 1-4 written completely out. Maybe like the basic ideas, the overall plot/premises. But not every single episode.
Could be wrong though! If anyone knows, would be interesting to know that.
There is a lot of things with bending that could be broken. I mean, we have a lot of water in our body. Why can't water benders just extract or make the water shoot out our skin. A skilled one totally could. But it's a nick show. But when you think about it, a lot of bending could be OP as hell. Imagine an airbender being able to manipulate the oxygen someone breathes lol.
MetalGuardian
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So how badass were the first three episodes? Waiting on Nick to upload them, don't want to tread too deeply in here for fear of spoilers. The trailer though for season three was somber and epic and awesome, but that was probably just a wait to bait more people into watching.
How bad is the shipping so far?
How bad is the shipping so far?
The temperature has to be like over 600C/1000F for most rocks to melt.
It's probably a skill that requires a lot of training to master.
Yea the villains look infinitely more competent than Team Avatar. Bolin is a 2nd rate bender who can't even do metal. Mako can do lightning but seemingly every decent firebender can do lightning now. Asami's really only got her electric glove and Korra is Korra.
Team Avatar is going to get wrecked. And bad.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Wow, At first i was going to get really salty at your post but then I read the spoiler tag. Damn I was tricked!!
Theoretically airbenders should be godtier. They should be able to deprive firebenders of any abilities or make the oxygen explode all around them.
NipplesAndToes23
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I had no idea the show was premiering last night. I just happened to have the TV on and saw it.
By shipping do you mean in the fandom or in the actual episodes?
Either way the romance is definitely toned down.
Vague spoilers
Nothing more than the occasional blush. No kissing or anything yet.
victreeb3l
Member
Its pretty decent actually. They acknowledged the previous seasons' shipping for like 2 minutes and then moved on with the plot. Some cool plot lines so far, though no guarantee if every one of these threads will be resolved properly.
Supermanisdead
Member
lol the earth kingdom stays shady as fuq. did anyone else get weird ~dear leader~ vibes from mako and bolin's grandma when she was blowing a kiss to the earth queen portrait.
BigBadGiantHand
Member
I'm fairly certain this is not true. I remember a Tumblr post toward the end of Book 1 where Bryke mentioned that they were finishing up the script for the Book 2 finale. Pretty sure that almost the entirety of Book 3 was written after Book 1 aired and they had received some feedback. I will go look for the link.
victreeb3l
Member
Yeah I just noticed that now too. They have all the elements represented, and are infinitely more badass than team avatar.
Waterbender chick
with no arms
Yeah, I guess they definitely had room to at least make some changes to S3 and 4 based on feedback.
Ah yeah, I remember something like that too. Even if the script is done, I'm sure they could make changes before they started to animate it. I'm not sure of how the process works really.
this is why I found the equalist movement so compelling in S1: They had a point. And actually continue to have one, so now the writers are just giving out free airbending to people to make up the difference.
I rewatched that episode where Sokka felt useless compared to "people that can fly!" and he's totally right. His utility is drastically less than all the other members of the group. By the end of it his ego is restored, but the series continues on in the same vein. He's the brains of the operation and that's how he makes it up, but that's a forced role because he literally couldn't be in the show otherwise. He's an accessory more often than not.
Same is (was) true of Bumi. Sometimes they trot out that line that everyone is equal even though there are some people in the world who can shoot lightning out of their fingers, and it always comes off as lazy. I suppose they're addressing it now.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Holy shit guys, Korrami really does feel canon.
Amazing episodes, they are better than anything in Book 2 lol
Amazing episodes, they are better than anything in Book 2 lol
I'm not saying they took the feedback of the fans (that is certainly possible, since they are known to read fan reaction stuff). But I think as creators, they can fix things based on their own internal feedback. Meaning, they know when they did something wrong after something is completed. For instance, they talked pretty early on about how they knew they made Korra too insufferable in the first half of Book 2. They did try to justify it, but they still were aware of the problem after all was said and done.
Murder-suicide in book 1, brown skinned female protag, I'm not counting anything out.
Banana Aeon
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so this was easily the best start of a season for korra and most likely the best 3 episodes in a row that had korra in them (aka you can't including the first avatar stuff)
I am also going to make a random call....
I'm basing this off the simple facts that....
I am also going to make a random call....
The fire bender locked up in the water prison is.... mako and bolin's mother... she wasn't killed when they were young she just left and for some reason settled down long enough to have kids.
I'm basing this off the simple facts that....
they hid her face in ep 3 and it seems like something the writers would do for a big twist.
Except, trailer spoilers:
We saw fire lady's face in the trailer. She doesn't look like Mako's mom.
I really want Koh to make a return, especially now that the spirit portals are open.
Did they hide her face? I thought I saw it in that picture.
Did they hide her face? I thought I saw it in that picture.
Plus we have hints about her based on what Zuko said (that ie. she can shoot energy out her head like Sparky Sparky Boom man). I guess that doesn't rule out her being related. But I dunno, not seeing it.
And_Gignac
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I think
they hid her face to play into the "maybe she is azula!!!!" madness from the fandom.
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