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Guys, these episodes have been awesome! That opening scene on EP4 was fucking fantastic, I can't get over how well this show is animated.
The thing on Jinorah's astral projection, I think she was deceiving Kai a bit, saying it was an airbender technique. She said it in a way that was trying to gloss over it. I don't think she wanted to freak him out any more, so she went for the most convenient explanation.
Anyways, Lin obviously has some legit reason for being so hostile, hopefully we find out sooner than later. Also, Book 4 definitely needs to be aired 2 episodes back to back. Its the perfect amount of time to spend with the show each week.

Yeah they are so awesome. I'm really happy that this season has been this great. Falling back in love with it (even if it's not perfect).
 
I bet Zuko hops on his dragon and gets the Gaang back together for a Big Damn Heroes moment.
 
Missed about the first minute of episode 4 thinking not much would be happening. Boy was I wrong X_X. Jinora with the spirit thing I'm just kind of accepting at this point and not placing much opinion on it. Trying to remember where Lin got the scars from. Kai in prison was great. A war between Ba Sing Se and Republic City is probably coming. Republic City's chief of police basically broke in and helped prisoners escape. I'm just hoping they can handle every plot point at once this season unlike the first two.

Episode 5 was light on action but handled the story better than the first two seasons. Hearing Lin's and her sisters backstory was great. Toph still likely being alive doesn't surprise me. Lin comes off as a major asshole but that's basically her character so that didn't bother me much. The Zaheer and Kya confrontation was great. You can tell from these two episodes that they aren't going crazy on the violence like some people thought after the first few episodes.

Also, so we can safely interpret Toph's "off wandering the world" as "preparing to show up dramatically during the finale", right? :P

I'm predicting every main character from ATLA will come together at the end of season 4 (they'll retcon that Sokka isn't dead).
 
Jinora's explanation for her spirit-walking was pretty weak, but I think that is the writers trying to sneak one on us.

In fact,
it explains what Zaheer does near the end of the next episode
.

I really hope they finish explaining themselves. They are doing an admirable job of explaining Jinora's spirit-fu. They just need to bring it home.
 
Having seen the Spanish dub episodes first..

I have to say I liked their voice actors more for Lin's sister and Opal. Lin's sister ins't bad in the English Dub, but it wasn't as good as the spanish one. Opal just sounds strange (way too high pitched and kiddyish). Just a small gripe. Anyways, not going to comment much on these episodes (since I saw them weeks ago).

BUT, I do think the Metal City episode was excellent. Both of these episodes were really solid. Which makes this season so far REALLY good. There isn't a single episode I've disliked so far. The only gripe I have plot wise, was Jinora being able to spirit bend. I'll never be okay with how they handled her character in Book 2 and how poorly they handled her spiritual connection.

It's pretty silly she can do things not even the Avatar can. Then again, Korra isn't very spiritual. But bleh (my issue is more to do with how they developed Jinora). ANYWAYS, all in all I would give both episodes an A range. I've really really loved this season so far. Probably the best run of the show ever (even better than Book 1).

Yeah, I preferred their voice actors as well. In fact, I prefer that entire cast more.

As for Jinora...

As I mentioned earlier, I will retroactively like what they did with her more if they do a decent job explaining it now. Good start so far, but they need to follow through.

And as you surmised,
like metalbending,
Korra could probably do all that. She just needs to be taught (and unlike Aang, once she is taught the fundamentals, she seems to excel at an amazing pace).
 
loving this season so far.

it's about here where the first two seasons kinda lost their way too. i was totally on board with them through episode 4 and then 5 would kinda throw me for a loop. i like how they're handling all the characters (and there's a huge fucking cast here). i hope the show maintains this quality until its true finale at the end of the next season.
 
Jinora's explanation for her spirit-walking was pretty weak, but I think that is the writers trying to sneak one on us.

In fact,
it explains what Zaheer does near the end of the next episode
.

I really hope they finish explaining themselves. They are doing an admirable job of explaining Jinora's spirit-fu. They just need to bring it home.

Yeah, at this point I definitely think Zaheer is trying to figure out the technique of spirit-walking which is the form advanced air bending like metal and lightning.

Ties in with the quote about
"being untethered from the earth"
 
These two episodes were really good too. Damn, I know not to trust these guys but this is starting to make me pretty optimistic. Such a better start than S2 that it hurts thinking about it. I'm glad they dealt with the whole airbender situation soon, I like seeing ba sing se but I didn't want them to stay there for too long. The metal city looks gorgeous, after seeing Ba sing se back in the TLA, I've always been curious on how good they could make another city based on bending, and this looks great. The only minor problems I have with these two episodes are Kya finding out about Zahir so quickly, it kinda felt unnatural how she got to that thought (well unless she has knowledge that he's out and about, which I can't remember) and the somewhat focus on Bolin's romance with new girl (I don't mind that much, just off-putted by any romance in this show for obvious reasons). Jinora's spirit walking still doesn't make all that much sense to me either.

This season is looking good, I'll still stay cautious, but I'm really hoping they can end this in a good way.
 
If the earth queen does not follow on her threat of war, i would be very disappointed.

Same. I fully expect some movement this season. As a matter of fact, I bet that is what forces Republic City to get its act together.

I do hope some of it is kept for next season though; the Earth Kingdom would make for a great overarching antagonist.

Does anyone else think
Opal is Lin's daughter?

No. It does not make any sense at all.
 
No. It does not make any sense at all.

Well it would explain why Lin couldn't stand to see Opal at all. And why she tries to stay away from her family as much as possible.

Also crazy theory on my part which is probably not true at all but if it is it'd be Maury levels of insane.
Imagine if Opal is Lin and Tenzin's kid which is why she is now able to air bend. It would also explain why some people are becoming airbenders now assuming they have some trace of airbending in their blood. And with Lin trying to become chief of police she couldn't take care of a kid or else her kid would be raised similar to how she was. And Lin's sister wanted a family so she took Lin's daughter in as her own. And Tenzin never knew about the kid because he ended up marrying Pema and Lin never wanted him to know.

Lmao this probably will never happen but my god I'd freak the fuck out if they did it.
 
Wait a second, did that guard just firebend?

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Wasn't the whole purpose of the prison that it's so cold that firebending is impossible?
 
I really hope the ramifications from Earth Queen's actions will ripple through the series, but Lin's sister bringing up ending the monarchy and her having Varrick on her crew is a good set up for the conflict, Korra technically did commit an act of aggression since Bumi, pointed out that everything the queen was doing was probably legal (human rights stuff aside). And she will retaliate against who? The chief of police of Republic City and a commander of the UR assisted the escape, so Republic might be a target, the air nomads could get part of the heat since they are accepting essentially a bunch of draft dodgers from another nation.

Its cool that I can allow myself to consider this options, now that the show is reaching high quality levels.
 
Wait a second, did that guard just firebend?



Wasn't the whole purpose of the prison that it's so cold that firebending is impossible?

I noticed this too. Either it was an error, or the inside of the prison is where it's so cold that firebending is impossible.
 
Wait a second, did that guard just firebend?



Wasn't the whole purpose of the prison that it's so cold that firebending is impossible?
The point of the prison was that you would get so cold that you couldn't firebend. He was wearing a warm fur coat.
 
Never knew Anne Heche got into voice acting, she did a nice job.

This show is so much better when it ditches Bumi and downplays the dumber comic relief parts of Bolin's character.

They've done a really good job making Korra bearable, and her and Asami this season are one of the only times a friendship in this series hasn't seemed weird and forced. It helps that they actually show it.
 
I noticed this too. Either it was an error, or the inside of the prison is where it's so cold that firebending is impossible.
The point of the prison was that you would get so cold that you couldn't firebend. He was wearing a warm fur coat.
Yeah, ok, it could be that it's only the actual prison cell that is specifally cold. Still, I don't know if it's very effective to have only two guards from one is a firebender who is at least impaired in this place (granted, an Earthbender would even more useless, but you could have more waterbenders). Ghazan and Ming-Ha had more guards - and that was before they knew that they're freeing people from the prisons. Bringing a few more White Lotus guards wouldn't have hurt.

Just nitpicking here, since the result would have been the same, but I just feel that they could've done more.
Well it would explain why Lin couldn't stand to see Opal at all. And why she tries to stay away from her family as much as possible.

Also crazy theory on my part which is probably not true at all but if it is it'd be Maury levels of insane.
Imagine if Opal is Lin and Tenzin's kid which is why she is now able to air bend. It would also explain why some people are becoming airbenders now assuming they have some trace of airbending in their blood. And with Lin trying to become chief of police she couldn't take care of a kid or else her kid would be raised similar to how she was. And Lin's sister wanted a family so she took Lin's daughter in as her own. And Tenzin never knew about the kid because he ended up marrying Pema and Lin never wanted him to know.

Lmao this probably will never happen but my god I'd freak the fuck out if they did it.
I'm the conspiracy nut and I have trouble believe it. Lins problem is with her sister, not with Opal herself. Its just that Opal reminds her on her sister when she was young.
The latent airbending - if thats important - could've come through her dad, we still don't know who that was.
 
Maybe this is sacrilegious to say... but this season is easily meeting — and I really want to say surpassing — average TLA quality for me. I'm seriously impressed.

I felt this way at the beginning of the first season though too.

I don't wanna get my hopes up, but damn if it isn't hard.

Then maybe Satoru?

Compare his hair with Su's, I think you may be on to something.

But, my gut is telling me if they bother to reveal it, it will be someone from the show, as to not alienate people or make them go "huh? who?"


It really doesn't matter either way who their dads are it seems, Lin and Su are both the two sides that Toph was, so they fill that role. Lin being the strong stern tough one, and Su being the plays rough with the boys/gentle part. There isn't really much other depth to those two characters.
 
Better Zahir and his group move fast against Korra. That armless woman with water bending is the most impressive of the bunch as far as i am concerned.
Well, she is the biggest show off of the four. Mind you of the snarky comment that they could jsut used the elevator. Ghazan isn't bragging with his abilites and just uses them when needed, we didn't see much of P'Li, btu she was impressive for someone who were imprisoned that way for years (granted, firebreathing dragon is not the best match-up against a firebender) and Zaheer is the one that I think the most of. The others were benders since a long time, but wether he knew something about it or not, he just got it a few weeks ago. Reading something about something is different than practically using it and is insanely good with his airbending.

Plus, he was already considered a equal thread like the other three, even without powers. Just look how complicated the White Lotus made it to just give him food.
 
Well, she is the biggest show off of the four. Mind you of the snarky comment that they could jsut used the elevator. Ghazan isn't bragging with his abilites and just uses them when needed, we didn't see much of P'Li, btu she was impressive for someone who were imprisoned that way for years (granted, firebreathing dragon is not the best match-up against a firebender) and Zaheer is the one that I think the most of. The others were benders since a long time, but wether he knew something about it or not, he just got it a few weeks ago. Reading something about something is different than practically using it and is insanely good with his airbending.

Plus, he was already considered a equal thread like the other three, even without powers. Just look how complicated the White Lotus made it to just give him food.

Well, she is more impressive than Kaya and the twins, so that should say something about her strength.
 
Well, she is more impressive than Kaya and the twins, so that should say something about her strength.
Kaya?
Of course, she is impressive taking out the twins so easily, not going to claim her for weak. But we still don't know how strong every member of the four really is. Nobody seemed to be forced to got all out yet.
 
Great episodes.

Combustion lady breakout scene was awesome. Got a bit of humor from the Fantastic Evil Four as well.

Jinora astral projection explanation was a bit ehhhhh but serviceable?

Episode 5 was the highlight though. Metal City is amazing, that sense of wonder has been missing from Korra so it's great to see that imaginative world design again. Opal is ideal waifu. Interesting that Toph never told her daughters who their fathers were.

Also, Kya kicked some ass. Really liked that scene. She isn't just a hippie after all.

Season 3 is shaping up to be really good. Makes me wonder what the hell happened with seaaon 2.
 
Fathers are sokka and....aang :O

I like how zahir resembles Henry Rollins now with the buzzcut haha

Aang's daughter is an amazing water bender. They should have had her roll with Zuko and them
 
I'm a little disappointed Zuko lost so easily but there is still a chance for a comeback for him. I expect some lightning, Zuko pls.

Also, this season has been excellent.
 
So how is it that all these air benders are so good at air bending when it took korra like 10+ years to figure it out?
Mhm well Korra is a blockhead. Airbending is not her thing and she didn't like to be frustrated. So I guess she just blocked its progress unconciously. Also she could just flee herelf into other things thst were more fun to her.

I'm a little disappointed Zuko lost so easily but there is still a chance for a comeback for him. I expect some lightning, Zuko pls.

Also, this season has been excellent.
Well he is kinda old. I suspect that he is past his peak. Aangs children are already old, Zuko has to be like a gajillion years old (I counted).
 
I've mostly liked this season. I only really have three main complaints so far; firstly that Kai is a terrible character and really generic, secondly that Jinora's explanation for astral projection was hand-wavey as fuck, and thirdly that is a general world-building point, it annoys me how passé bending has become. Bending used to be a pretty rare and restricted art in tLA, and more than that, it was difficult to do more than even very minor things. Becoming a great master was all about the extent to which you could align your thoughts, emotions and feelings with the nature of the element you sought to manipulate. When you compare Aang's struggles mastering even Earthbending compared to how good everyone in tLoK is at everything, it's a bit jarring. This was present in earlier seasons of tLoK, what with Lightning-benders everywhere, but it got ramped up to 11 this season with Air-benders suddenly being crazy good out of nowhere and that giant metal city when Toph was the very first person ever to be able to do it and only because of almost unique personal circumstance.

EDIT: Also, Zuko is about 88. So, he's pretty damn spry all things considered. Admittedly, age doesn't seem to work quite the same way in the Avatar world.
 
Mhm well Korra is a blockhead. Airbending is not her thing and she didn't like to be frustrated. So I guess she just blocked its progress unconciously. Also she could just flee herelf into other things thst were more fun to her.

Well he is kinda old. I suspect that he is past his peak. Aangs children are already old, Zuko has to be like a gajillion years old (I counted).
Wiki says hes about 89 years old, which would make him like 20 years older than Avatar Roku when he was still kicking around.
 
I've mostly liked this season. I only really have three main complaints so far; firstly that Kai is a terrible character and really generic, secondly that Jinora's explanation for astral projection was hand-wavey as fuck, and thirdly that is a general world-building point, it annoys me how passé bending has become. Bending used to be a pretty rare and restricted art in tLA, and more than that, it was difficult to do more than even very minor things. Becoming a great master was all about the extent to which you could align your thoughts, emotions and feelings with the nature of the element you sought to manipulate. When you compare Aang's struggles mastering even Earthbending compared to how good everyone in tLoK is at everything, it's a bit jarring. This was present in earlier seasons of tLoK, what with Lightning-benders everywhere, but it got ramped up to 11 this season with Air-benders suddenly being crazy good out of nowhere and that giant metal city when Toph was the very first person ever to be able to do it and only because of almost unique personal circumstance.

EDIT: Also, Zuko is about 88. So, he's pretty damn spry all things considered. Admittedly, age doesn't seem to work quite the same way in the Avatar world.

i actually really like the last thing you mentioned. maybe things wouldn't have advanced as far as they had in the 70 years or so since atla like in real life (compare 1920 to 1850 for instance), but i really like that bending has become a sort of lost art form, like how people used to learn a trade and be good at that and really know how to do that one thing extremely well. while that's still possible today, it's not super hard to do or even necessary. and i think in 70 years, toph would have been able to pass on a lot of knowledge, especially to her daughters.
 
I've mostly liked this season. I only really have three main complaints so far; firstly that Kai is a terrible character and really generic, secondly that Jinora's explanation for astral projection was hand-wavey as fuck, and thirdly that is a general world-building point, it annoys me how passé bending has become. Bending used to be a pretty rare and restricted art in tLA, and more than that, it was difficult to do more than even very minor things. Becoming a great master was all about the extent to which you could align your thoughts, emotions and feelings with the nature of the element you sought to manipulate. When you compare Aang's struggles mastering even Earthbending compared to how good everyone in tLoK is at everything, it's a bit jarring. This was present in earlier seasons of tLoK, what with Lightning-benders everywhere, but it got ramped up to 11 this season with Air-benders suddenly being crazy good out of nowhere and that giant metal city when Toph was the very first person ever to be able to do it and only because of almost unique personal circumstance.
The world evolved. Not only technology but society, too. Keep in mind that ATLA was in a constant state of war with a lot of people dying (even if we dont saw that, but ear isnt pretty). Now we have progress, people working together and finding time and peace to train their abilities by masters. After the war ended benders weren't needed so much for the armies.
The airbenders the picked up where trained by the Dai Li, so far only Kai and Zaheer showed big progress bythemselves.
Toph founded metalbending and she found a way tobteach it to other earthbenders. All that is needed, is the realisation that esrt is within thr metal. As we see, her rather crude technique was refined and improved in a good way.
 
i actually really like the last thing you mentioned. maybe things wouldn't have advanced as far as they had in the 70 years or so since atla like in real life (compare 1920 to 1850 for instance), but i really like that bending has become a sort of lost art form, like how people used to learn a trade and be good at that and really know how to do that one thing extremely well. while that's still possible today, it's not super hard to do or even necessary. and i think in 70 years, toph would have been able to pass on a lot of knowledge, especially to her daughters.

But I don't see bending as a trade. It's not really something you should be able to learn through rote repetition or repeated practice, it's not just skill. It's something much more spiritual and religious than that. It demeans it to just make it another activity that people can do.
 
But I don't see bending as a trade. It's not really something you should be able to learn through rote repetition or repeated practice, it's not just skill. It's something much more spiritual and religious than that. It demeans it to just make it another activity that people can do.

only some people used in in some sort of spiritual way. the air nomads and maybe a few of the northern water tribe? i don't think pro wrestling was all that spiritual. i don't think military action was all that spiritual.
 
only some people used in in some sort of spiritual way. the air nomads and maybe a few of the northern water tribe? i don't think pro wrestling was all that spiritual. i don't think military action was all that spiritual.

Didn't really like pro-bending very much. It's actually remarked upon a few times by Iroh that Fire Nation soldiers aren't actually very good at Fire-bending because they just use anger and violence to fuel their emotions; it's when he's telling Zuko off for doing the same thing.
 
Didn't really like pro-bending very much. It's actually remarked upon a few times by Iroh that Fire Nation soldiers aren't actually very good at Fire-bending because they just use anger and violence to fuel their emotions; it's when he's telling Zuko off for doing the same thing.

not pro bending. i'm talking about how toph was introduced with the wwe style tournaments.
 
not pro bending. i'm talking about how toph was introduced with the wwe style tournaments.

I never really got the feeling that was very high level bending. It's not like the wrestlers were actually very good, they just threw big rocks at each other. I mean, Toph could beat them and she was a relatively untrained 12 year old girl. She was just on a higher level than them because she was more spiritually in touch with Earth-bending, which indicates they weren't very good at it.
 
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