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Aang appeared to Tenzin in the spirit fog, and helped him rescue everyone, while Vaatu was severing the connection to all previous avatars.

I'd like to think this wasn't a hallucination, since it was inspiring instead of inducing madness like Kya, Bumi, and Zhao, if so it could mean that the spirits weren't destroyed, just disconnected.




But I guess this season we're just doing a Lin backstory, bad guy benders after Korra storyline. Oh well.

That only makes the Avatar state more confusing. So like...Avatar Aang's soul/spirit is free to wander the spirit world, and whenever the Avatar needs to ring him up (for Avatar State time or a 1 on 1 chat) he's able to be where the Avatar is?
 
What's the general consensus on these latest two episodes?
Because holy crap, I thought they were really good.
There are some things, people not like very much, like Bolin x Opal or Zuko losing against Team Kill Avatar, but overall it was very liked. Lin's sister is very intesting, as is the whole metalcity (god, I adored the dance).
And as always, everything looked amazing.
That only makes the Avatar state more confusing. So like...Avatar Aang's soul/spirit is free to wander the spirit world, and whenever the Avatar needs to ring him up (for Avatar State time or a 1 on 1 chat) he's able to be where the Avatar is?
I think we already talked about that a few pages ago, when I had no idea what these avatars are and we realized that the show didn't really explain that. Are the actual avatars doomed to be waiting and staying around for every current avatar to call until the circle ends? Are those copies of their souls? We don't know and every answer is somehow uncomfortable.
 
There are some things, people not like very much, like Bolin x Opal or Zuko losing against Team Kill Avatar, but overall it was very liked. Lin's sister is very intesting, as is the whole metalcity (god, I adored the dance).
And as always, everything looked amazing.

Wow, people don't like Opal and Bolin? They are like the perfect pairing. My only issue with it I guess, is that it's moved way too quickly. Granted, it could be the fact that Bolin is a famous mover star, and she already knows who he is. So that would make sense why she already has a crush.

I wasn't a fan of Opals English voice either. But I think as characters/pairing goes, I think it's pretty great! (They seem good for each other).

EDIT: Oh it's because you like the twin girl.
 
There are some things, people not like very much, like Bolin x Opal or Zuko losing against Team Kill Avatar, but overall it was very liked. Lin's sister is very intesting, as is the whole metalcity (god, I adored the dance).


Are people serious?
BOPAL is the best ship Avatar has ever made at the moment. It doesn't help that Opal reminds me of this chick I'm into right now, down to the haircut. o.o
 
I think there would be some common sense involved and some leeway given to writers when they have to develop and extend the world much further (into the future and into the past).

But more importantly, we're 5 episodes into Season 3 of Legend of Korra with zero mention or relevance to the Avatar State and yet THAT'S what people are nitpicking.

You guys can argue all you want, and focus on whatever you want. I'm just saying that it's very disheartening and a huge barrier to entry for those of us that might be wanting to discuss and talk about the show presently.

Me and my friends watch these episodes and talk about the new story developments, the comedy, the great animation and fights. And if I come here to see what long term fans are talking about and what I get is...not very appealing.

leeway for what? they are extending a series they have a familiarity with, its not their first rodeo here (even though the resulting stuff makes it look like otherwise tbh).

plus they have already given their answer for both with one being kinda alright (future stuff) and another being a fucking mess imo (past stuff with vaatu, rava, wan, etc).

also you jumped in the thread at a point where a particular thing is being discussed and painted the entire thread of being that way, when a few pages earlier people were talking about the stuff you wanted (discussion about the new characters, story, complete with theories, etc).

and finally talking about that current stuff is gonna work for so long especially when its getting all the praise it has and no new episodes are out yet. How long will people yammer the same safe stuff until they are redirected to the points that are not clearer and in essence warrants more discussion (eg the Jinora stuff was shown again and that leads to the stuff from season 2). Its gonna happen.

If you don't like it then come to the thread when an episode is going on or just ended then *shrug*
 
Wow, people don't like Opal and Bolin? They are like the perfect pairing. My only issue with it I guess, is that it's moved way too quickly. Granted, it could be the fact that Bolin is a famous mover star, and she already knows who he is. So that would make sense why she already has a crush.

I wasn't a fan of Opals English voice either. But I think as characters/pairing goes, I think it's pretty great! (They seem good for each other).
Well, as for me I am biased as an Eskafan, but I think that Bolin just moves on too fast. The last season ended with him actually liking Eska, but that vanished completely apparently. Then we had his superficial interest in the actress and his interest in Korra. Dude just jumpes from girl to girl, so it's hard to believe he actually likes Opal.

But yes, I am not the only one who is not that happy with that pair.
lol the whole Kai/Jinora thing is so stupid, and the Bolin/Opal thing is pretty dumb too.

I'm sorry, but seriously

why does this show need pre-teen romance and crappy teen romance
I agree, I'm not a big fan of the romance plots, though I know why they're added. The Bolin/Opal thing is so rushed and out of nowhere, there's no way in hell that they'll still be together by the end of the series, hell, I doubt they'll even be together by the end of this season.

Kai/Jinora I can give a pass, just because I want to see Tenzin rage. It has better build up then Bolin/Opal anyway, not that it's a hard feat to accomplish.



Yeah, there's something about Opal, it has my danger alarms ringing. I don't think we've seen the true/side of that girl, or her whole family to be honest. Somethings up, no family is this perfect.
 
Still wasn't fulfilling from a plot perspective. You basically had Aang faced with a major internal crisis (giving up his love for Katara), or forever having his Charkras closed. He chooses to abandon the Avatar state because he can't give it up. But then conveniently...a rock pokes him and THAT re-opens it?

Even if you want to try to argue this logically, it's still silly. Because it doesn't really make sense how that overrides the Chakra path (that required him to leave behind all earthly attachments). I guess the writers were like, well technically Aang was DEAD and the rock his the spot where he died...so that fulfills him letting go of his attachment to the earth. Meh.

Aang opened his chakras in season 2 right before Azula shot him, and then THAT blocked the chakra.
 
I really think Opal's romantic interest in Bolin exists solely to throw Bolin a romance bone. Of course, Asami will never be allowed such happiness.
 
Well, as for me I am biased as an Eskafan, but I think that Bolin just moves on too fast. The last season ended with him actually liking Eska, but that vanished completely apparently. Then we had his superficial interest in the actress and his interest in Korra. Dude just jumpes from girl to girl, so it's hard to believe he actually likes Opal.

But yes, I am not the only one who is not that happy with that pair.

Unfortunately, they haven't done a very good job with Bolin tbh. I actually like him a lot, because he's pretty likable. And while he's stupid (ugh i hate that they made him so dumb), he's still a really caring character. And when Book 1 and Book 2 had a lot of asshole characters, he always kind of skated on by as likable (at least for me).

Problem is, as we've already discussed many times before, is they treat Bolin as comic relief (even down to his character development). So the entire Eska plot was entirely played up for laughs. Even when Bolin realizes he likes her in the finale, it's played up for laughs (when she tells him that she just got CAUGHT UP IN THE MOMENT).

So yeah, his romance stuff has been really poor because it's treated as comic relief fodder. I really really really hope they don't do that with Opal. I want this to be more of a Suki relationship at this point, since we are already close to Book 4.
 
Aang opened his chakras in season 2 right before Azula shot him, and then THAT blocked the chakra.

In the fight with Azula he realized they were done for, so in the heat of the moment he decided he would give up his earthly attachments. He was in the process of reaching enlightenment then was shot down.

So you are right, but it's still a shit plot. Because then Aang shouldn't have had any earthly attachments. Just because he died, and was brought back to life (and therefore the Chakras were now cut off), doesn't change the fact that he gave up his earthly attachments. I mean shit, just listen to what we are saying. It's silly.

Anyways, me bringing up the chakra stuff wasn't even really about this. Just got caught up in a side thing. My issue with the Chakras (and why I brought it up), had to do with how it works with Raava and the overall Avatar State in general not really being consistent. But yes you are right, Aang did in fact give up everything and opened up his final chakra, he was just killed as he was doing it (therefore shutting it off). So the rock hitting his death spot, supposedly re-opened the Chakra spot.

But I still think it's non-sense, because Aang really wasn't impacted by opening his Chakras. And even if you want to argue logically this all makes sense, it's a very unfulfilling plot that is a major cop out. Because even if this rock was able to re-open all his Chakra spots, then why doesn't Aang then let go of all his earthly attachments at least at that point? Now all his chakras are open, and therefore he should be a specific way in order for the Chakras to remain open.

TLDR; I do realize this is being nitpicky. WHICH is why, I personally don't want to know how the Avatar State works. I'm totally okay with it just being a power the Avatar has, and leaving it at that. I mean, it's a fantasy genre. That's all I need to know. But when they start getting into Chakras (and that being how you control the Avatar State), but then saying the Avatar State is a connection to Raava and all the past lives (and allowing Korra to have mini-avatar states and control it because spirit Aang touched her) - I start to call bullshit on just how silly and inconsistent all of this is.
 
While all the chakra stuff was pretty hamfisted, it would've been nice had they carried it over to Korra instead of deus ex aang.
 
Unfortunately, they haven't done a very good job with Bolin tbh. I actually like him a lot, because he's pretty likable. And while he's stupid (ugh i hate that they made him so dumb), he's still a really caring character. And when Book 1 and Book 2 had a lot of asshole characters, he always kind of skated on by as likable (at least for me).

Problem is, as we've already discussed many times before, is they treat Bolin as comic relief (even down to his character development). So the entire Eska plot was entirely played up for laughs. Even when Bolin realizes he likes her in the finale, it's played up for laughs (when she tells him that she just got CAUGHT UP IN THE MOMENT).

So yeah, his romance stuff has been really poor because it's treated as comic relief fodder. I really really really hope they don't do that with Opal. I want this to be more of a Suki relationship at this point, since we are already close to Book 4.
Yeah, I would sign that post with approval.

What if it was a troll and she went to Mako at the end of the season

:lol
Still hoping desperately that they actually go Korra x Asami.
I know that it's highly unlikely, don't rub salt in the wound.
 
lol if Mako snagged Opal he would be the biggest douchebag in the history of douchebags.
And thus begins Bolins rise to the S4 villain due sexual repression. He could actually get Varrick on his side.
Why are people suspicious of Opal because she's too "perfect".

Asami is perfect and she's nice.
Asami has her own opinion and rough edges, Opal is - as of yet- Yamato Nadeshiko.
 
Why are people suspicious of Opal because she's too "perfect".

Asami is perfect and she's nice.

Pretty much. Plus it would make no sense for Opal to be bad or hiding something (given her family and the city she is from). I think the plot last season where Bolin's gf ended up being the bad guy, would feel a little too repetitive to have that happen again this season. (Granted, Eska wasn't like a twist bad guy or anything). But meh.
 
Pretty much. Plus it would make no sense for Opal to be bad or hiding something (given her family and the city she is from). I think the plot last season where Bolin's gf ended up being the bad guy, would feel a little too repetitive2 to have that happen again this season.
I dunno, Eska wasn't exactly hiding her allegiance and Bolin was (most of the time) not really happy involved. Eska and Opal are way different.

But yeah, I don't think either that Opal is evil. She just gives me bad vipes, I feel uneasy. Should maybe cut down on the edgy anime.
 
that's at least partially because they shat all over her for two straight seasons

now she's just bruce wayning it up with airships and stuff
 
I dunno, Eska wasn't exactly hiding her allegiance and Bolin was (most of the time) not really happy involved. Eska and Opal are way different.

But yeah, I don't think either that Opal is evil. She just gives me bad vipes, I feel uneasy. Should maybe cut down on the edgy anime.

I edited my post. But yeah Eska wasn't in hiding so it's not like the plot would be the same. But I feel like 3 books in, enough is enough with Bolin and his rotating relationships. It's getting repetitive.
 
I edited my post. But yeah Eska wasn't in hiding so it's not like the plot would be the same. But I feel like 3 books in, enough is enough with Bolin and his rotating relationships. It's getting repetitive.
That's for sure. They should take him more serious. As I said while watching season 2, even in serious situations he is often useless because he gets used for a joke in the fight.
 
Alright, these are a bit over due due to the last two days being busy, but on the plus side that gave me some time to read over the threads comments before I added my own.

I don't seem to have the major problems that other people have, namely Zaheer's abilities. I do question it, enough that I expect some kind of explanation to it, because everyone else who has airbending powers sucks at it except for him and Kai...but their the only two characters who have demonstrated innate spiritual understandings or knowledge. Kai, I already discussed how he seems to have lived a life of detachment from any place, people, or even truth. And now Zaheer has mentioned Guru Lahima twice, which kind of closes the book on the fact that he was an airbending student beforehand. People, even in this thread, forget that airbending has very little to do with the actual superpowers. Iroh, a firebender, learned what is essentially a waterbending technique when he learned to redirect energy. Aang has more than once used his airbending movements without any use of actual airbending to defeat an opponent. And the twisting panels exercise itself is one that requires the understanding of wind movement rather than knowing how to shoot wind itself (BE THE LEAF!).

All that suggests to me that Zaheer knew airbending long before he was ever an airbender. And even if he wasn't, he clearly understands airbending philosophy, which in ATLA was more important than knowing something as superficial and shallow as the movements of airbending. Granted, if you want to look at it realistically, his muscles should have deteriorated from lack of activity and he just should not be as fit as he is, but that goes for all of the prisoners (including the earthbender we saw doing pull ups before he was rescued. Whatever they're feeding him should not be sustainable enough for him to be able to expend energy on training himself). In fact, they should not be alive. It's really a mystery as to why they weren't just killed, but I'm basically saying them being as good as they are is a problem with the Z-team as a whole, not Zaheer himself.

Most of Episode 4 wa good. It opened up really nicely with that prison break, then showed Kai going through the airbending training before being rescued. The rescue sequence itself was really good too. Kai got the predictable character development he had to get to not be reviled. Bolin even managed to do something. I know, I'm as shocked as you are.

The main problem is Jinora. The Spirit thing was obviously bullshit. It was bullshit because they didn't know what happened in season 2, so obviously they're not going to know whats going on now. But more importantly, from a character perspective, they implied they have a connection because she has a crush on him over one day. ATLA did this too with Sokka and Yue, so it was hard to swallow, but you know, atleast Sokka and Yue talked and had fun together before they pretended they had any kind of special relationship. There is no point that Jinora and Kai interacted aside from when she greeted him as he entered the airship. And then they have a part where the asshole trainer Dai Li grabs her (why would the Dai Li grab her? She's not a Ba Sing Se citizen so it's not like they can legally conscript her), and they make a point that Kai is the one that saves her and then gloats over his awesomeness. You know, TLA was pretty above this whole "rescue damsel in distress" bs to the point they make fun of it, but now it's used as a supposedly legitimate development of their relationship. *pfft*

Right, then Episode 5. Okay, so I had a problem with Lin having a rock up her butt the entire episode like everyone else but there is a bigger problem: Suyin. She is awesome.....too awesome....impossibly awesome....because okay, she traveled the world, was a pirate, in a circus and hung out in some sand colony before building an entire city...out of metal....HOW?! She looks like she's in her 40's at best. And where the hell did she get the sheer ludicrous amount of funds required to get that lol worthy amount of metal, let alone metal workers to build everything from building (with a flower shape that close up on demand) to airship airports, to....everything!...and she is also a dance instructor for a unique play using metal bending, collector of meteors, and the friggen leader of this city. More than that, she is not only efficient and not corrupt, she outright scoffs at the notion of corruption, criticizing Korra lying to her while being reasonable and noninvasive about it. She is reasonable beyond measure, trying to welcome Lin with open arms despite her being difficult, is kind and polite, patient, openminded with her kids, her city is the safest ever and......

Okay, look, people like this do technically exist. But good lord. Leonardo da Vinci would be feeling inadequate and small minded next to this woman. The one that gets me most is that one day she decided randomly she wants a home, so she builds herself a city. Do you have any idea how much a city costs to build? Where the hell did she get the funds for that?! AND build it up to that in what, 15 years at best? Insane. Granted, people in the avatar world can accomplish things ridiculously fast, but this is still over the top. So...for me, she breaks believably and that's a bigger problem than Lin being a grouch, which probably has a reason (and I hope it's not infertility, because it seems stupid to imply that every woman ultimately wants a child and Lin has never shown the slightest interest in kids).

Right now, the only thing that stops her from being a mary sue is that she doesn't really have much of an impact on the story. For all her wonder, she is just a vehicle to give Korra a new airbender to train and her only investment in the conflict thus far is her grudge match with Lin. People think Mary Sues are just unrealistically talented people, which Suyin definitely qualifies as, but their talent is truly a side effect of the true symptom: unwarranted impacts on the plot/characters is the true mark of the mary sues. As I just explained, Suyin is still a minor character, ridiculous accomplishments aside and Korra of season 1 and 2 is a much better example, since the laws of the avatar universe literally break for her convenience. Still, LoK writers...handle with care....

On the stuff I liked, Toph having two kinds from different fathers is....kind of revolutionary, I think. I honestly cannot think of another cartoon that admits the mother had two different fathers without even giving the fathers enough importance to be named. Zaheer's disguise was a good one. It didn't fool me, but it did 2 of my friends. His fight with Kya was also good. Also, people seemed to criticize the fight, saying Kya is an experienced waterbender who should have won since he's a noob. Again, I explained how I reason Zaheer's abilities, but just because she's the child of Aang and Katara doesn't mean she is necessarily a combat expert. You guys do know that she was basically a hippy before Aang died and then she came back to relative normalcy. She'd probably know more about various experimental waterbending hallucinogens than fighting techniques....and she still managed to hold her against the guy despite that. A similar complaint was launched against Zuko, which I guess I can see, but I think that's just the worf effect in play.
 
In the fight with Azula he realized they were done for, so in the heat of the moment he decided he would give up his earthly attachments. He was in the process of reaching enlightenment then was shot down.

So you are right, but it's still a shit plot. Because then Aang shouldn't have had any earthly attachments. Just because he died, and was brought back to life (and therefore the Chakras were now cut off), doesn't change the fact that he gave up his earthly attachments. I mean shit, just listen to what we are saying. It's silly.

Anyways, me bringing up the chakra stuff wasn't even really about this. Just got caught up in a side thing. My issue with the Chakras (and why I brought it up), had to do with how it works with Raava and the overall Avatar State in general not really being consistent. But yes you are right, Aang did in fact give up everything and opened up his final chakra, he was just killed as he was doing it (therefore shutting it off). So the rock hitting his death spot, supposedly re-opened the Chakra spot.

But I still think it's non-sense, because Aang really wasn't impacted by opening his Chakras. And even if you want to argue logically this all makes sense, it's a very unfulfilling plot that is a major cop out. Because even if this rock was able to re-open all his Chakra spots, then why doesn't Aang then let go of all his earthly attachments at least at that point? Now all his chakras are open, and therefore he should be a specific way in order for the Chakras to remain open.

TLDR; I do realize this is being nitpicky. WHICH is why, I personally don't want to know how the Avatar State works. I'm totally okay with it just being a power the Avatar has, and leaving it at that. I mean, it's a fantasy genre. That's all I need to know. But when they start getting into Chakras (and that being how you control the Avatar State), but then saying the Avatar State is a connection to Raava and all the past lives (and allowing Korra to have mini-avatar states and control it because spirit Aang touched her) - I start to call bullshit on just how silly and inconsistent all of this is.
Azula shot him in the spine, which was the Earth chakra. It's the one about fear. The one thing he feared most was Ozai which was shown in his visions, and the one thing that ended up saving him from Ozai was earth. I thought it made sense with hindsight.
 
Was about to reply to you Veelk, but forgot you haven't seen the next episode lol

One more week, but given that you had a reply at all, I'm guessing there is a good reason....for one thing of the half dozen I talked about I think, lol.

Still, this is SO much better than Book's 1 and 2 were, by a mile. Hell, by a lightyear.

Azula shot him in the spine, which was the Earth chakra. It's the one about fear. The one thing he feared most was Ozai which was shown in his visions, and the one thing that ended up saving him from Ozai was earth. I thought it made sense with hindsight.

Heh....you know, it's the mark of quality on something that no matter how many times you see something, you can come back and notice something new, and it's why I like coming to forums like this to discuss those things. Because I had not noticed that until you brought it up. Thanks for that.

TLA isn't perfect, but I love how it keeps giving the more you put into it.
 
Azula shot him in the spine, which was the Earth chakra. It's the one about fear. The one thing he feared most was Ozai which was shown in his visions, and the one thing that ended up saving him from Ozai was earth. I thought it made sense with hindsight.

I really should have just left out my side comment on Aang and the rock. I pretty much agree with you guys that logically it can be explained. But I still find the Chakra stuff really problematic and silly (and inconsistent) with regards to how the Avatar state has been evolved over the years. I guess I don't get why Aang had to open all of his Chakras in order to control the Avatar State. And why Aang was able to show up in spirit and open all of Korra's Chakras (assuming that is what he did). And then I don't get how the Chakra stuff really ties into Raava. And I don't get how there is mini versions of the Avatar state. I guess my ultimate point was, I think I preferred viewing the Avatar State as just a power of the Avatar, rather than trying to get into the details of how it works technically speaking.

AAAAND while I think your point about it being neat in the finale (it being the fear Chakra), I still think the whole Guru plot was sloppy and ultimately not satisfying. But eh just me.

One more week, but given that you had a reply at all, I'm guessing there is a good reason....for one thing of the half dozen I talked about I think, lol.

Still, this is SO much better than Book's 1 and 2 were, by a mile. Hell, by a lightyear.

It's not a big deal. It doesn't disprove your point, and it's pretty sloppy writing IMO. But there is some aspects to your post, that I think can be sort of explained (or rather, you can see why the writers presented the story the way they did, to highlight a point). But like I said, it doesn't negate your points. It's only more along the lines of, you can see where the writers made a sloppy writing choice to convey something (even if it's a little billy silly realistically speaking).
 
It's not a big deal. It doesn't disprove your point, and it's pretty sloppy writing IMO. But there is some aspects to your post, that I think can be sort of explained (or rather, you can see why the writers presented the story the way they did, to highlight a point). But like I said, it doesn't negate your points. It's only more along the lines of, you can see where the writers made a sloppy writing choice to convey something (even if it's a little billy silly realistically speaking).

Thanks. I have no idea which point of mine isn't being disproven, but I'm not sure I want to know lol

I really should have just left out my side comment on Aang and the rock. I pretty much agree with you guys that logically it can be explained. But I still find the Chakra stuff really problematic and silly (and inconsistent) with regards to how the Avatar state has been evolved over the years. I guess I don't get why Aang had to open all of his Chakras in order to control the Avatar State. And why Aang was able to show up in spirit and open all of Korra's Chakras (assuming that is what he did). And then I don't get how the Chakra stuff really ties into Raava. And I don't get how there is mini versions of the Avatar state. I guess my ultimate point was, I think I preferred viewing the Avatar State as just a power of the Avatar, rather than trying to get into the details of how it works technically speaking.

As of LoK Book 2, it's completely incomprehensible if we take TLA into account. Like I said in my earlier post addressing it, I totally get how it's not narratively satisfying in some regards in TLA. Even TLA is not perfect. But LoK is the one that really ruined it completely. Now all we can really say is that it's just a Super mode.
 
Thanks. I have no idea which point of mine isn't being disproven, but I'm not sure I want to know lol

lol i tried to be as vague as possible. I guess I shouldn't have replied at all. But I just didn't want you to worry. It's nothing big or anything. I pretty much agree with most of your points.
 
i never got the feeling that zuko was one of the best fighters in the show, so i'm not surprised he gets his ass beat when he's in his 80s. azula, katara, toph, and iroh were probably the most skilled at what they did (and aang too, but is airbending wasn't used much for actual fighting, and he wasn't super great at anything else).
 
After reading Veelk's post next week should be fun since it it basically fucks with 50% of what he said LOL

Really? The only prediction I made was Zaheer being an airbending student (not necessarily formal student under Tenzin or whatever, he clearly just read up on the history and philosophies). Besides that, I'm mostly just judging what has been shown on it's own merits.

I guess maybe they can justify Suyin's wealth by having her inherit the Beifong wealth....but....unless Toph's family was rich enough to afford their own kingdom, seriously, wtf.

Unless your saying they are explaining Jinora's spirit powers. Because if they are...lol, I can't wait to see them try to pull THAT bullshit off....
 
I'm gonna place my bets on Zaheer being
one of Aang's students from the Airbending culture society that he formed in The Promise, and he did some crazy extremist fanatic stuff that caused Aang to take away his bending, and now he's an Airbender with all of the prior knowledge required to have the level of skill that he has.
I think this makes the most sense about zaheer
 
Oh, and I almost forgot. I especially liked the moment right after the rescue where Zaheer and P'Li reunite with a kiss, and Ghazan is clearly awkward and uncomfortable, commenting "Really? Right now?"

This is totally the kind of moment the Gaang would have had back in the day. They really are the classic Avatar team, sans the avatar, and show it more than the Krew does.
 
They really should have just aired both episodes back to back. So stupid they split them up. Terrible decision.

but then it would be 3 again which is kinda crazy.


Oh, and I almost forgot. I especially liked the moment right after the rescue where Zaheer and P'Li reunite with a kiss, and Ghazan is clearly awkward and uncomfortable, commenting "Really? Right now?"

This is totally the kind of moment the Gaang would have had back in the day. They really are the classic Avatar team, sans the avatar, and show it more than the Krew does.

Yea that was hilarious.

Really felt like they were the nega- Gaang.


Also you have made some great guesses in that post tbh but i'm not gonna say which :p

And i want the new ep to come out so a particular redacted discussion can continue (personally Azula i think you were being too harsh in that one tbh).
 
but then i would be 3 again which is kinda crazy.




Yea that was hilarious.

Really felt like they were the nega- Gaang.


Also you have made some great guesses in that post tbh but i'm not gonna say which :p

And i want the new ep to come out so a particular redacted discussion can continue (personally Azula i think you were being too harsh in that one tbh).

I guess. But I mean, it was pretty much a two part episode lol.
 
Remember when Bolin/Korra was an actual contender for like 1 one episode till it turned out that Mako and Korra are both assholes? What did people think of that pairing? I actually considered shipping it, but season 1 quickly determined the writers utterly inept at writing romance so now I don't ship anyone.
 
Just read Veelk's post and agree with just about all of it.
Only thing is I didn't mind the Jinora/Kai connection if only because kids' hearts are spontaneous and much more open than adults', so it doesn't surprise me that after a short time together they felt a strong connection. Is it love? Probably not. Probably just a crush, but anyone who's had a crush at that age knows how much it takes over you.

Plus it gave us that great Tenzin eyebrow raise lol

Remember when Bolin/Korra was an actual contender for like 1 one episode till it turned out that Mako and Korra are both assholes? What did people think of that pairing? I actually considered shipping it, but season 1 quickly determined the writers utterly inept at writing romance so now I don't ship anyone.

Never would've worked because Bolin isn't enough of an asshole.
 
Just read Veelk's post and agree with just about all of it.
Only thing is I didn't mind the Jinora/Kai connection if only because kids' hearts are spontaneous and much more open than adults', so it doesn't surprise me that after a short time together they felt a strong connection. Is it love? Probably not. Probably just a crush, but anyone who's had a crush at that age knows how much it takes over you.

Plus it gave us that great Tenzin eyebrow raise lol

I wouldn't have minded it if they had just given us one moment for them to share. I don't want to say it's lust because both of them are like 10, but Jinora's affection for him right now is based on nothing but his looks. That's not an emotion, that's just hormones, whether it takes you over or not. If we had a single scene for them to share where she told him how she felt for him losing his parents because she has no idea how she'd function without her mom and dad, that'd be enough for me. We got nothin'.

Whatever. It's still a better romance than Makorra.
 
Opal has only gotten a few minutes of screen time so far. Let's give at least one more episode.

naga and pabu are a better romance than makorra

Literally every other romance in the series is better than Makorra which is sad because I really wanted to like Mako at the beginning of Book 1.
 
Asami is the perfect example of how a character can be a Mary Sue on paper, yet in execution be perfectly likable and "normal"
I think Asami may be a little overrated because of her looks, she is as shallow as Korra, Mako and Bolin, the difference is that she is not a jerk, but still mainly used for shipping.
 
I think Asami may be a little overrated because of her looks, she is as shallow as Korra, Mako and Bolin, the difference is that she is not a jerk, but still mainly used for shipping.

Well she had an interesting background story with her mom, and then her dad's betrayal and having to salvage the family name and business. They just didn't do anything with it. All that + her likable personality went a long way.
 
Depth has nothing to do with Mary Sueness. Bella Swan has the depth of a sheet of paper, but everyone agrees she's a mary sue.

Mary sue is a poor term for the narrative problem it actually presents because it suggests that it is an isolated feature, the character, and that that character would be a mary sue regardless of their place in the story. I always considered the term "Black Hole Character" to be better because that's what a mary sue truly does.

Bella Swan isn't a mary sue because of her looks or talents or thoughts. She's not particularly nice or interesting. In fact, it's remarked quite a few times that she has no particular talents at all aside from liking to read Romeo and Juliet and Wuthering Heights. And yet, despite that, Edward and Jacob is enthralled with her, she has lots of friends, and everyone goes out of their way to make her life as pleasant as possible. There is no reason given within the narrative she should have any of these things going for her, yet she does. The entire story is her interacting with people who should, by the stories' own admission, should have no interest in her.

Asami beauty, niceness, and wealth have an affect on the plot, but it doesn't allow her to be the master of it. Similarly, there are characters in other works that have even more going on for them than either Bella or Asami, but there are reasons within the narrative supporting why they do that.

Mary Sues are defined by how they affect the world around them, not a superficial checklist that gets one too many positive attributes added to it.
 
Why are people suspicious of Opal because she's too "perfect".
Asami is perfect and she's nice.
Asami isn't perfect. She's got some baggage. But, outside of that she basically is.
I dunno, Eska wasn't exactly hiding her allegiance and Bolin was (most of the time) not really happy involved. Eska and Opal are way different.
But yeah, I don't think either that Opal is evil. She just gives me bad vibes, I feel uneasy. Should maybe cut down on the edgy anime.
She's giving me too many good vibes, I can only mistake them as bad. It's really a thing that can only be predicted on the strength of the writers and if it's an intended effect or not. Hopefully, Opal is just a good girl.
After reading Veelk's post next week eps should be fun since it basically fucks with 50% of what he said LOL
Stop doing this. It's literally worse than the people I used to watch with who kept screaming "Red Wedding! Red Wedding!" and going "You can't tell what I'm talking about because there's no context" the episode before it happened when I was watching Game of Thrones. I figured it out too. Because it was goddamn obvious.
 
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