UnemployedVillain
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Let us calmly discuss the Monster Hunter 4chan rumor about PS4 and Switch
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Where's the game then?
FirmBizBws
Becomes baffled, curling up into a ball when confronted with three controller options.
Because they're all horrible and we shouldn't support knockoffs?
Ask Capcom. They might know.
Unknown?
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Uncharted and Halo got massive upgrades throughout the years though. Uncharted 4 doesn't look like UC1 and Halo 5 doesn't look like an OG Xbox game.
ShockingAlberto
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Don't believe it wasn't running on something consumer-level until it is out and released on that consumer hardware.
Lyon N. Laap
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Weird. I didn't know that graphics were the only way to measure if a series got "massive upgrades".
This is literally the Final Fantasy strategy.
Either MH5 will be FF12 or FF15. Knowing Capcom safe bet is it's going to be a 12.
It was already heavily downgraded from that initial render in February 2013.
Besides, there's nothing really crazy going on. One small corridor environment with a few character models on-screen at best.
The point is that when it comes to monster Hunter Nintendo is the only legit competitor.
Nintendo has the dominant handheld so existing fans would see a switch version as the superior version.
Sony wants both existing fans as well as the potential expanded audience.
Youre probably right. I might be overthinking it too much,
Its just hard to imagine the series doing anything different. I actually think the mission based stuff is perfect as is and shouldnt be changed but I guess Ill see. I just really like the ideas behind it....with you being a hunter and having to register your hunts and turn them in after completion. It feels right to me.
Out of all this stuff, the words "streamlining" and "combat changes" scare me the most as I think thats the stuff that makes Monster Hunter different from its clones. But I guess it really depends on how far they take it.
Mr. Pointy
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If Capcom go full open world with MH5, I wouldn't mind getting mounts. If you capture a Great Jaggi or Velocidrome or even a Gammoth or Rathalos, you can eventually train it to be a mount instead of turning it into mats.
ChronotriggerJM
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Yeah the combat changes are a bit of a concern as I like the general weight and feel of the games now. But streamlining could be absolutely wonderful for this series, open world opens up a ton of possibility.
Dynamic weather, day and night cycles, traversal, etc, could all make for a more fascinating, coherent world. The monsters have always been interesting to me in MH, but the world they live in is usually generic background noise. A living, breathing world could be wonderful.
Was this already posted here?
Its a conversation between capcom PR and WSJ reporter.
It basically says that their unannounced AAA title wasn't the Switch version of Monster Hunter XX.
So maybe its a PS4 version MH? or something else.
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/867923099655614464
Its a conversation between capcom PR and WSJ reporter.
It basically says that their unannounced AAA title wasn't the Switch version of Monster Hunter XX.
So maybe its a PS4 version MH? or something else.
Agree and its a concern of mine as well. Change the graphics and add new skills, weapons are good but changing too much on how the game loop goes it'll not be the game we used to know.
I'm praying for dmc 5
Thats MH Stories
it'll also have a hard time selling two million in Japan though
PS4 MH will not reach that numbers either.
Spyder_Monkey
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Don't believe Deep Down is coming out at all.
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Jpop
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Either way only PS only players who want actual MH lose, also Sony.
but it have a higher chance of selling two million than DMC5 lol
darkslayer101
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you are not alone man... DMC5 hijack thread
The Last One
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The prediction is 1.5 million. And I think it's a worldwide prediction.
ah............. westernized monster hunter for ps4 then
The Last One
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ah............. westernized monster hunter for ps4 then
DMC 5 would fit in this case too.
Jawbreaker
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I would love for them to do something fresh with Monster Hunter since they're going to keep the old formula on handhelds anyway. I would get to play two styles of a franchise I enjoy. Also, "streamlining" isn't necessarily a bad thing (Bloodborne is a great example).
Bjoern the Smexy
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If anything about MH5 having QTEs, an open world, no gathering/quest preperation and all that is true then it's just not Monster Hunter anymore.
Just because of that I don't believe this one bit. It would alienate the fanbase.
I only ever knew that greentext with the red background (which was vague af to begin with), but all the ones with the blue background read like utter and stupid nonsense to me, simply because this would be the polar opposite of what Monster Hunter actually is for the most part.
I tend to believe that if anything MH5 related is to happen on PS4 it will also come to Switch.
This is not a situation like SF5. Street Fighter was never a platform exclusive. SF2 came out (in various versions) on SNES and Genesis (and many more platforms), SF3 came out on Dreamcast and PS2, SF4 came out on PS3, 360, PC and 3DS. It has always been a multi-platform title.
Omitting this series from one potential platform wasn't going to lose Capcom many sales. It's more like the game itself lost Capcom sales, because it felt half-baked when it came out and now it's apparently too late to salvage anything (unless I missed some kind of sales spike in the last few months).
The mainline Monster Hunter series has been exclusive to Nintendo systems since Tri.
This means that the fanbase is currently almost exclusively on 3DS and will most definitely shift over to Switch, thanks to its ability to play MHXX both at home and on the go.
Sony swooping in and buying exclusivity rights to MH5 (for PS4 even) makes no sense. They would have to get all those people, who play MH on 3DS, get over to PS4. There is no safe way to determine how many of those people have a PS4 or are willing to buy a PS4 just for MH5.
This would be too great a financial risk for both Capcom and Sony, in my opinion.
Just because of that I don't believe this one bit. It would alienate the fanbase.
I only ever knew that greentext with the red background (which was vague af to begin with), but all the ones with the blue background read like utter and stupid nonsense to me, simply because this would be the polar opposite of what Monster Hunter actually is for the most part.
I tend to believe that if anything MH5 related is to happen on PS4 it will also come to Switch.
This is not a situation like SF5. Street Fighter was never a platform exclusive. SF2 came out (in various versions) on SNES and Genesis (and many more platforms), SF3 came out on Dreamcast and PS2, SF4 came out on PS3, 360, PC and 3DS. It has always been a multi-platform title.
Omitting this series from one potential platform wasn't going to lose Capcom many sales. It's more like the game itself lost Capcom sales, because it felt half-baked when it came out and now it's apparently too late to salvage anything (unless I missed some kind of sales spike in the last few months).
The mainline Monster Hunter series has been exclusive to Nintendo systems since Tri.
This means that the fanbase is currently almost exclusively on 3DS and will most definitely shift over to Switch, thanks to its ability to play MHXX both at home and on the go.
Sony swooping in and buying exclusivity rights to MH5 (for PS4 even) makes no sense. They would have to get all those people, who play MH on 3DS, get over to PS4. There is no safe way to determine how many of those people have a PS4 or are willing to buy a PS4 just for MH5.
This would be too great a financial risk for both Capcom and Sony, in my opinion.
Bloodborne is more of a modified combat system than a streamlined combat system
Infinite_Daremo
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And here's me just hoping for a back catalogue port to PC
The Technomancer
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Open world could be super cool but they better not fucking touch that combat or I'm out. Some of the best combat in a game period
MatrixMan.EXE
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To be honest, I'd take something where you still had hub villages but open mission areas with no loading screens or strict "zones". Basically the way FFXII and other RPGs strike a balance between linear and open world. It could work if the mission areas were large enough.
Lol some of these posts are incredible. This just reads like fanboy fantasy. Sony has not threatened Nintendo due to a fear that Monster Hunter on the Switch would completely eradicate their relevancy in Japan.
AdventureRacing
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It's hard for anyone to get upset about this. For fans of the portable series you still get a new traditional entry and for the first time in a long time a genuine graphical update. For fans who want a more western orientated MH game focused more on graphics we get that too.
I do wonder how this works out for capcom. They go from never really upgrading on graphics for the franchise to suddenly having a huge jump on 2 platforms and making 2 seperate games as well. It seems like they'll be spending a lot more money and I'm doubtful they would recoup that investment. I feel like Sony would have to be giving a lot of incentive to make this a reality.
I do wonder how this works out for capcom. They go from never really upgrading on graphics for the franchise to suddenly having a huge jump on 2 platforms and making 2 seperate games as well. It seems like they'll be spending a lot more money and I'm doubtful they would recoup that investment. I feel like Sony would have to be giving a lot of incentive to make this a reality.
MatrixMan.EXE
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Oops, dp.
Sangetsu-II
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As long as I can get HD monster assets in Monster Hunter PS4 and Nostalgic gameplay on Switch, I really don't mind.
I have played 500hours of Mh1 on Ps2 and was really addicted to the game. Then I got my Ps3 with oblivion and when I saw the huge world the first thing I thought was, how cool a MH in a big and open world and the coop etc. could be. And I still want something like that. And I honestly think a game like Horizon is not so far away from the basic idea.
AzureFlame
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after the XV leaks, i might believe this as well.
Weltall Zero
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"Sony" is not a single person. It's not hard to imagine there might be some at Sony Japan that aren't particularly happy with becoming irrelevant; this decision might come from them.
That's kind of an argument in favor of not putting themselves in a worse situation.
You don't get very far in any kind of business by throwing your hands in the air and saying "that's it, we're done, pack it up" every time you're in a bad place.Again, more reason to be afraid of a Switch version; nobody would buy a PS4 one. Whereas a XBone or PC version wouldn't pose any thread.
Even assuming that part of the rumor is true, "westernized" can mean a lot of things. Japanese tastes themselves have become more "westernized" as a consequence of the AAA scene shifting heavily to the west.
The next numbered MH entry is always going to be the most relevant in any market. Many of the potential MHXX customers have already played either that version or X on the 3DS; a completely new MH is more attractive.
Depends on many factors, including how much Sony is moneyhatting and how big the total budged is for the game itself.
This is all assuming the rumor / leak is true, which I'm not convinced at all. I'm just saying it does makes sense for Sony to block a Switch version and only a Switch version.
I know. Imagine a MH for PS4 that the West doesn't care about and Japan dislikes since it's not the "real" team working on it. That's why this deal could be so bad for Capcom in the end.
I still hope the PS4 MH would be cool, though. I don't really care who works on it, as long as it's fun.
QTEs are dumb, if you get pinned or you start riding there is a small QTE/button mash event and that is fine. Open world would be awful because A) The monster will chase you or B) The monster will run away from you and that means you'll spend hours just trying to keep up with it.
I hate farming in mon-hun. I do it because the game requires it but honestly, it's just an unnecessary hurdle along with pointless busywork. Just have all items available for purchase and lock their sale behind hunter ranks. Zenny is already rare due to upgrade costs so why not focus on the other currency type? the points or whatever you collect. Better yet have monster parts have an immediate use, don't just get dash extracts- just get dash juices, don't get pale extracts, just get demon drugs.
There's so much garbage in inventory boxes, so much useless crap you collect, low rank stuff is just mind numbingly useless aside from the 1 or 2 decorations you need.
In fact you collect literal garbage. Garbage. 99x garbage.
You don't need this, eschew all of it. Just hunt monsters.
That's kind of an argument in favor of not putting themselves in a worse situation.
Yep, that's why Sony never spun off its TV division or sold off the VAIO PC division or abandoned the Vita worldwide becoming the Wii U of handhelds.
Oh wait.
"thread"? (Sic!) What are you talking about? You mean threat? If so, threat to WHOM? Threat to console Warriors that the game would come to other platforms they dont own as well?
Father_Brain
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I think you missed the part about Switch not just getting MHXX, but continuing to get the traditional mainline MH under a different name. MHP3rd far outsold MHTri, because the former could offer local multiplayer and the latter couldn't.
Mr.Deadshot
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An open world Monster Hunter is the logical evolution for the franchise that is long overdue. And it would be great to see a monhun game with modern graphics after 10+ years of PS2-textures ... PS4-exclusive MonHun in Decima Engine, pls. But seriously don't gimp the combat engine 
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