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[speedpop]

Thoughts?

I dunno.. it is hard to pinpoint where gameplay or story precede each other. Like your argument stated, in a strategy RPG, the gameplay is where the meat and soul is. But personally I'd like a good story to go alongside it.. again, it doesn't matter how well written a game is, the premise of it all.. if the actual system does not work to your liking or just totally broken, you stop playing. Simple as that.

On the subject of the actual thread title, if a Final Fantasy was ever released where the story just did not excite people will throw the tomatoes. Case in point - many people dislike FFVIII for various reasons. Many say it's due to the "broken" battle system, technically it isn't broken.. you just have to learn to understand it and it's quite tedious when you want spells. Others dislike it entirely due to the main character and the story.

This is where you have to start melding where gameplay > story and vice-versa. Some of the latest RPGs have decent (if not innovative) gameplay systems but lacklustre storylines. Is this due to our perception of what we were treated in the middle/latter stages of last generation and/or are we being ignorant of RPG's a generation or even two before that? For sure I can name several RPGs that blew my mind back then, but one of my favourite (action)RPGs is Terranigma. The story isn't the greatest, very Quintet cliche but it's the gameplay which I adore.

 

[pollo]

 

[Rei_Toei]

I can bear with shitty graphics, and even shitty music, as long as the story and gameplay's up there. Story to keep my attention, gameplay (battlesystem etc) should be good enough not to irritate/bore me/wear me out. Art's important too (for me). I think it's sad that ideas I consider brilliant in various 16 and 32-bit era RPG's are neglected and never used again, just because developers seem to believe new games need 'new' ideas that are sucky only too often. Better to rip something that works than come up with something broken.
/Rant

 

[Fatghost]

It's typical of what happens to a genre after it becomes really popular and then loses it's place.

Happened to 2D platformers, arcade racers, 2D fighters, 3D fighters, and SHMUPs.


A genre becomes really popular, everyone jumps on the bandwagon, consumers end up bored, something new comes out, and the genre gets dumped.

The only genre that seems immune to this are sports games, which are popular on every system in every generation.

Next on the chopping block: GTA style games.

 

[FFunit]

*hasnt read the topic because its too FUCKIN BIG*


I agree with the topic creator. This gen was total bullshit. I had fun for years with the PS1 and still have fun with it. So many great rpgs on that system. The PS1 is of course the Rpg Kingdom. In comparisation to the PS2, which has only a few good rpg games. Wild Arms 3 being 1 of them .I havent played much rpg games because there simply werent good ones. FFX was total crap, I hate that fuckin game. It wasnt a FF game, just an interactive movie. FFX-2 was the worst game ever and FFXI I couldnt care less about. They butchered up the Breath of Fire series too with BoF Dragon Quarter, That game was bullcrap at most. Just a stupid dungeon crawler. It looked like if someone with 2 years of 3D Max experience made it. So cheap. Damn I cant describe my disappoint for the PS2. It just basically collects dust in my room. But back in the days, I couldnt let my PS1 alone for a single day.

PS2 is bullshit.

 

[HooDoo]

*hasnt read the topic because its too FUCKIN BIG*


I agree with the topic creator. This gen was total bullshit. I had fun for years with the PS1 and still have fun with it. So many great rpgs on that system. The PS1 is of course the Rpg Kingdom. In comparisation to the PS2, which has only a few good rpg games. Wild Arms 3 being 1 of them .I havent played much rpg games because there simply werent good ones. FFX was total crap, I hate that fuckin game. It wasnt a FF game, just an interactive movie. FFX-2 was the worst game ever and FFXI I couldnt care less about. They butchered up the Breath of Fire series too with BoF Dragon Quarter, That game was bullcrap at most. Just a stupid dungeon crawler. It looked like if someone with 2 years of 3D Max experience made it. So cheap. Damn I cant describe my disappoint for the PS2. It just basically collects dust in my room. But back in the days, I couldnt let my PS1 alone for a single day.

PS2 is bullshit.

Sure is, since you're seemingly avoiding all the good RPGs out there. Go play them already and come back when you've finished them.